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    Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief

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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    I really don't quite understand all of the lobbying for an Editor-in-Chief, unless there is some payback coming for the lobbyist. That must be it, a way for Ray and his gang to get in the "mainstream" media, to ride the wave of a once great publication, to have the ability to wine and dine with the influential auto elite.


    I really doubt if this will save the magazine. It is far too gone to even really matter any longer.

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    Image of scottcom36 has Weekday DT's, Weekend OD's scottcom36 has Weekday DT's, Weekend OD's
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    Car AND Driver abbreviated C/D
    Road & Track
    Never, ever Car & Driver or C&D
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    02/25/09

    @scottcom36 has Weekday DT's, Weekend OD's: We have normally preferred "Car und Driver" as of late, but maybe we'll start, you know, using a more appropriate style guide usage. Like, Car & Alterman.
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    Ray Wert was starred Ray Wert was unstarred
    Image of John Krewson John Krewson
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    Well, good. I was rooting for Mike Austin but that was a long shot.


    As I always do when a massive shift like this takes place during troubled times, I'm hoping for a "this is so crazy it just might work" plan of action on the part of the new guy. In any case, it's interesting times.

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    Image of elitza owns the last Enzo shirt elitza owns the last Enzo shirt
    02/26/09

    @John Krewson: We were (mostly) all rooting for Austin. Ray's right; he's really good people. It would've been a long shot indeed, but if it's not him, I'm happy with Alterman.
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    Image of ViergangFuchs ViergangFuchs
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    Holy crap, somebody's finally decided to use "The Producers" as their actual business plan.


    If somebody can't write, can't drive, and can't edit, how does he become editor-in-chief? Presumably HF wants to banko this bitch, stat.

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    Image of crazyreesie crazyreesie
    02/25/09

    @ViergangFuchs:


    Jack, I've read stories by Eddie that I've enjoyed very much; he's got talent. Those stories never appeared on "that website," though, which I've long thought was an indication that he simply didn't take his position there very seriously.

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    Image of ViergangFuchs ViergangFuchs
    02/25/09

    @crazyreesie: I value your opinion and will take it for truth. The stuff I read of his at Automobile was always Swan-wannabe snark, but I'm not familiar with his entire oeuvre.


    Still, he's supposed to be an *editor*, and the outright keyboard diarrhea that splashed all over Hoetive could have used more editing.


    And by "editing", I mean "mercy killing".


    Still, to think that this guy now sits in the seat once occupied by Stephan Wilkinson and David E. Davis, Jr.... that's so depressing there aren't words for it.

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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    02/25/09

    @ViergangFuchs: Eddie "Real Deal" Holyfielderman is just that -- the real deal.


    BTW, can we get this whole expectations bar any higher?

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    Image of elitza owns the last Enzo shirt elitza owns the last Enzo shirt
    02/26/09

    @Ray Wert: It's still south of Obama's expectation bar.
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    Image of MrSpyder MrSpyder
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    I liked Sports Car International. I guess I was the only one.
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    02/25/09

    @MrSpyder: I worked with SCI for many years. Yeah, you might be the only fan.
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    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    Alterman in many ways is [LeMons Chief Perp] Jay Lamm Detroit. This is good for C and D...at least from where I'm sitting.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    02/25/09

    @theeastbaykid: Isn't Austin more Jay Lamm Detroit than Alterman?
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    Hopefully C&D can buck the industry trend, and having a real car guy at the helm definitely will help. It will be interesting to see what changes come about.


    Now dance, Jalopnik, dance!

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    Image of Boosted Lego Wagon Boosted Lego Wagon
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    A gradual progression:


    Car&Driver
    Bar&Drivel
    Ban&Snivel
    Bin&Shovel
    Motor-trend

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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    02/25/09

    @boosted-lego-wagon: I laughed.


    Then I cried, because I've had a subscription to Motor Trend for 15 years. I don't even know why anymore.

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    Image of Rican5.0 Rican5.0
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    Problems with Car & Driver


    1. Brock Yates left.

    2. Old man Bedard only writes about gas mileage

    3. The wit and scathing commentary simply vanished.

    4. It reads like Road & Track's uglier, less intelligent cousin publication now.

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    Image of ssurfer321 ssurfer321
    02/25/09

    @Rican5.0: 5. John Phillips' irrelevant and unfunny page fillers


    I am letting my current subscription expire w/o renewing.

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    Image of bzr bzr
    02/25/09

    @ssurfer321:



    John Philips is the only good thing Car and Driver has going for them. They clearly don't use his crazy genius enough. In fact, he'd fit right in at Jalopnik.


    I even bought his book! (And promptly left it behind on an airplane or something.)

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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    02/25/09

    @Rican5.0: 5.) Now with "High Fives!"


    @bzr used the word carpocalypse on a college paper: Not true -- Mike Austin's good people as well.


    I'll even grudgingly admit Gillies is a helluva driver and I enjoy reading his Napoleonic racing exploits. I feel like they should all begin with: "As I placed the booster seat into the Formula 1 car..."

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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    Completely unrelated ,but I wanted a chance to post this:


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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    02/25/09

    @LTDScott: That made me giggle.
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    02/25/09

    @LTDScott: Love it. Your work, or pilfered from the internet?
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    Image of drewdrawshashtags drewdrawshashtags
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    This is good news, motivemag is a gorgeous site and great read, which is hard to come by these days (beyond Jalop, of course). Best of luck to him. To be honest though, I've never liked C&D, even as a youth it seemed second rung to R&T. Then I discovered Car magazine and I never went back to Americans again.


    If he can bring some of the web's pioneering spirit, motive's design and journalism (yeah, journalism) back to an American car magazine, I might consider reading it.


    BTW, I hate a Wert teary-eyed moment just this morning when I put the last of my old Car mags out for recycling. Let's just say the wife won the day.

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    Image of drewdrawshashtags drewdrawshashtags
    02/25/09

    @DrewDraws303.25bhp: Oh, and what the HELL has been going on with the hamsters? Did they escape this morning?
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    Image of dusteruk dusteruk
    02/25/09

    @DrewDraws303.25bhp: You're about to get the shock of your life. I'm a Car subscriber so get my issues a few days early. The redesigned Car is a complete mess.
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    Image of drewdrawshashtags drewdrawshashtags
    02/25/09

    @dusteruk: I saw it online. Hideous. What Car meets Us Weekly? Really? What are they trying to do to me?


    But that only makes me sadder about recycling the beautiful ones.

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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    I might have to resubscribe, now that Auto(bi)Week has decided to suck hard.


    I subscribed to C&D for decades, and still have the old issues, just like R&T. I used to like their attitude and range, but their shifting focus to SUV's and pickups, and their continuing diminished editorial ability to do an honest evaluation of any large manufacturer's vehicles made me tremendously disappointed.

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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    Ugh, great and all but whenever I see the Obama style picture I want to punch a kitten.
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    Image of mikedrawcar mikedrawcar
    02/25/09

    @lilwillie:
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    Image of mikedrawcar mikedrawcar
    02/25/09

    @mikedrawcar: F html: [94.100.114.72]
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    Image of Bret Bret
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    Print media is on the ropes. Magazines are shrinking to the point that I often mistakenly throw them in the recycle pile with the Ballard Design catalogs. Is C&D going to be able to make it?


    What will Eddie Alterperson do now that folks like me go to the Jalop for our auto fix? In particular, Weekend Murlopnik for our C&D style review of wacky and interesting autopsychotica like LeMons.

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    Image of OldeEnglishD OldeEnglishD
    02/25/09

    In reply to Car & Driver Names Eddie Alterman New Editor-in-Chief
    Wow, now I picture all of us Jalops dancing around to the "We Did It" song from Dora the Explorer!


    We bitched and moaned and got Eddie a job
    Yeah we did it!
    We got Car & Driver back on track
    Yeah we did it!
    We did it!
    We did it!

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