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A third of us have spoken out in this post for same-sex marriage. Another half or so have expressed that they don't care either way, it doesn't bother them. The remainder (16.7% seems about right) have been questioned as to their reasoning.
I don't think we're a bunch of homophobes at all. In fact, I know specifically that most of us aren't. Ask me. Hell, ask Charles if he comes around; he's our most prominent gay regular. I think he'd get a kick out of the off-color jokes here; I know I did. I'm not bothered by the buttsex-smelling Cabrios and Lesbarus, because I know that all stereotypes are based on a glimmer of truth. And when they go beyond joking, and multiple people are offended, we stop.
It's an easygoing place, this Jalopnik. Enjoy the cars.
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My car weighs a ton and a half, has plenty of sharp, greasy edges, and is commonly driven by lib'rals.
No worries!
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Indeed.
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Making fun of the Polish now? Where does it end?
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/sarcasm
Seriously, when Brittany Spears can get married and divorced in the same fucking day there's no sanctity left... it's gone, get over it, you're not protecting a "blessed institution", you're just being a dick.
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And my $.02: Let 'em get married. They have every right to suffer just like the rest of us straight folk. Plus, a lot of my friends are divorce lawyers, it'll keep them in more business.
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Doesn't change the fact that everyone would rise up and scream about their "marriages" being "destroyed", even though according to many of them it doesn't matter because they're still married in the eyes of God.
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Anyone?
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"Here's what I don't understand: is there so much love and commitment in the world that we can afford, as a society, to be contemptuous of some portion of it? If two women in white want to join hands in front of their families and friends and vow to love and honor one another until they die, the only reasonable response to that is happy tears, awed admiration and societal approval. And-this part is just personal opinion-one of those big honking KitchenAid mixers with the dough hook."
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One of the main reasons my wife and I are married is because when we weren't, the house was in her name, and when it was burglarized, my stuff wasn't covered because I was a "roommate".
Sigh.
Additionally, I contend, erroneously from what I've found, separation of Church and State actually meant something. However, I've also severely misinterpreted the constitutional right to religion to also mean choosing no religion.
Bad American, bad, bad American!
Stop this rock, I want off.
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Basically, my girlfriend and I mostly intend to marry in the future, because of legal, property, and insurance reasons. It's just easier. I don't see it making our commitment to each other more or less firm-- just making it binding in the eyes of the courts, which is really goofy, if you think about it.
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If I hadn't already given you a heart-click, I would do so again.
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Look, the voters approved a ban once, and the court rejected it. Then the voters approved a state constitutional amendment, and if the court threw that out, it'd be a complete slap in the face to democracy. Frankly, I'm surprised the kooky California courts didn't do it.
I really don't care who marries who, as long as I don't have to hear about it and voter rights aren't trampled on, it's none of my business. Honestly, I'd just assume we leave marriage to the churches and do away with the legal term "marriage." Civil unions for everyone!
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Actually, I like your point about doing away with the term "marriage" in its current parlance, as it encompasses such broad, non-contiguous set of ideas that differ depending on the cultural and historic context.
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And yes, despite this being a civil-rights issue, I feel that Prop. 8's passage wasn't originally intended as an anti-gay backlash, but rather a backlash against the court system making decisions that the people may or may not agree with, whether the court trends liberal (as in this case) or conservative.
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And yes, despite this being a civil-rights issue, I feel that Prop. 8's passage wasn't originally intended as an anti-gay backlash, but rather a backlash against the court system making decisions that the people may or may not agree with, whether the court trends liberal (as in this case) or conservative.
Your claim is that prop 8, a constitutional ammendment banning gay marriage, was passed by people who said to themselves "I'm all for letting the gays get married, a position heretofore consistent with the constitution. But since the court has pointed out this consistency, I must now vote counter to my personal views"
That's just crazy talk. It's fun watching someone try to rationalize a clearly discriminatory act as being something other than discriminatory.
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I really don't think most people who aren't extremely religious really give two stainless-steel shits about whether Person X is allowed to marry Person Y. Perhaps I'm being too optimistic about that, but that's what I'd like to think (and what I tend to see around here in the purplish-indigo state of New Hampshire). However, I think many of these people resented not being given an option.
That's the way my moderate-left-raised libertarian-aimed mind sees it, at least. Your mileage may vary.