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Actually, this looks pretty good, but I am against the unceasing embiggening of grilles that seems to be working its way through every model on the market these days, so I have to be against the restyle on principle.
@FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway:
I'd take the Mazda III because it's not horrendously over-priced. I looked at the c30 then it first came out, and the only really good looking ones were close to or above $30k, got shitty gas mileage and didn't have all that much power.....
@oneswellfoop: Are you in the US? The T5 petrol-- the only one we get, while not as powerful as the Speed3, does have more power and torque than the GTI (and the non-MazdaSpeed 3, naturally). And unless you were looking at R-designs, it seems like it'd have to be an overly optioned example to be $30k
The vanilla C30 has the black plastic body lowers which don't look as good as the R-design's color matched or contrasting bodykit. Particularly on light colored cars, the R-design does look better. But on a dark car, the vanilla C30 still looks good.
Waaaaay too damn expensive for a car that offers so little. A Mini is a far better value, and drives far better, too. The C30 drives like what it is, a chopped up S40, and although it's not bad, it's not all that sporty, either. Give me, for the same dough, a Cooper S, and it comes standard with power everything. The Volvo doesn't, or at least didn't when I looked at them.
As for the hundreds of thousands of configurations from the factory - why? Honda has it right in that aspect. Offer a stripper (please!), a mid-range with power stuff, a top level with power stuff and a sunroof, and then the premier level with leather, 'roof, and all the other hoo-hah. You don't need thousands of variants to sit on lots and collect dust (and get flat-spots on the tires, need complete fluid changes, etc.). An assortment of 4 or 5 packages in several colors will capture all the business you need to. Or even better, a Scion approach of dealer added options might even be better.
You can get a "stripper" C30 that you seem to be longing for. You may have to order it or search hard for it-- it seems most dealers didn't order as many without all the fixings as they ordered with all the goodies.
A lot of the options can be added by the dealer, though they tend to cost a little more that way.
These are nice-looking cars, but Volvo shouldn't be looking to Mazda for front end styling cues anymore. However, I've seen very few C30s on the road here, and I suspect the problem is price - $24,000+ to start. That's an optioned-up Civic Si right there. Throw in leather, sunroof, nav, and a few other options and it's easy to go over $30,000. That's up there in loaded Accord V6 EX-L territory.
Anyone who tries to tell me this isn't attractive, and then tries to say anything positive about anything anywhere in the Chrysler lineup, will instantly lose all credibility. This is, for my money, the best looking hot hatch on sale in North America.
Also: are we done with all the Sweden cliches in every Saab and Volvo post? Bork... Ikea... Wait, you forgot about the Swedish meatballs!
I insist that every Chevrolet post should now utilize similar American stereotypes; I recommend obesity, ignorance and inbreeding.
I think Volvo makes some fantastic cars, and their wagons are still some fo the best around. Now if only more people would remember that this company exists.
Sooooo glad I got an 09 C30. I love the original car, but I'm not really a fan of this update.
The front is not an improvement, imo. They did tweak the rear a tad-- the edges beneath the tail-lights, just above the level of the plate, now go down toward the middle (echoing the nose). they used to be horizontal.
I'm assuming the rear 'unique' is in quotes because it isn't really unique; it's drawn heavily from the p1800. I've always really liked this glass rear end not because it's pretty, but because you won't mistake it for anything else on the road, including its ancestor.
They are way too excited about the new "exterior features." "Increased its visual volume" = looks bigger. Next time someone asks me if I've gained weight, I'm going to say no, I've just increased my 'visual volume.'
And the other hot flashes are, it comes in orange and you can see the tailpipe.
I fear that this excess, plus the choice for white wheels, means that Volvo plans to go head to head with the Ricer and Donk market. They are becoming hep cats, Daddy-o-- jump back!
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Dunno how reliable the rumors are, though.
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Actually, this looks pretty good, but I am against the unceasing embiggening of grilles that seems to be working its way through every model on the market these days, so I have to be against the restyle on principle.
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Euro Focus ST guts--Volvo C30
=C30R
DO IT!!!
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And as of this nose revision, apparently no style.
I'll take the platform-mate MazdaIII for its superior handling and perennial happiness.
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I'd take the Mazda III because it's not horrendously over-priced. I looked at the c30 then it first came out, and the only really good looking ones were close to or above $30k, got shitty gas mileage and didn't have all that much power.....
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The vanilla C30 has the black plastic body lowers which don't look as good as the R-design's color matched or contrasting bodykit. Particularly on light colored cars, the R-design does look better. But on a dark car, the vanilla C30 still looks good.
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As for the hundreds of thousands of configurations from the factory - why? Honda has it right in that aspect. Offer a stripper (please!), a mid-range with power stuff, a top level with power stuff and a sunroof, and then the premier level with leather, 'roof, and all the other hoo-hah. You don't need thousands of variants to sit on lots and collect dust (and get flat-spots on the tires, need complete fluid changes, etc.). An assortment of 4 or 5 packages in several colors will capture all the business you need to. Or even better, a Scion approach of dealer added options might even be better.
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You can get a "stripper" C30 that you seem to be longing for. You may have to order it or search hard for it-- it seems most dealers didn't order as many without all the fixings as they ordered with all the goodies.
A lot of the options can be added by the dealer, though they tend to cost a little more that way.
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I really liked driving the car, but not only was the price an issue, but the options in an 'a-la-carte' fashion was really annoying.
Even though I ended up with an VW R32 for 5k less (and a bit more car) the C30 still catches my eye when I (rarely) see one.
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Really, for no reason in particular. They're sort of the MINI-alternative. Very likable.
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Also: are we done with all the Sweden cliches in every Saab and Volvo post? Bork... Ikea... Wait, you forgot about the Swedish meatballs!
I insist that every Chevrolet post should now utilize similar American stereotypes; I recommend obesity, ignorance and inbreeding.
No offense, of course.
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And yes, this is the best looking hatch on the market.
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The front is not an improvement, imo. They did tweak the rear a tad-- the edges beneath the tail-lights, just above the level of the plate, now go down toward the middle (echoing the nose). they used to be horizontal.
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They are way too excited about the new "exterior features." "Increased its visual volume" = looks bigger. Next time someone asks me if I've gained weight, I'm going to say no, I've just increased my 'visual volume.'
And the other hot flashes are, it comes in orange and you can see the tailpipe.
I fear that this excess, plus the choice for white wheels, means that Volvo plans to go head to head with the Ricer and Donk market. They are becoming hep cats, Daddy-o-- jump back!