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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    11/06/09

    In reply to VW Bus Stolen 35 Years Ago Found In Shipping Container
    So who loses the money? The restorer or the Dutch buyer? (it's hard to type "Dutch buyer" without slipping in a joke about hashish, hookers or blood diamonds) #vwbus
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    11/06/09

    In reply to VW Bus Stolen 35 Years Ago Found In Shipping Container
    You see? This is what happens when the Baltimore Chief of Police messes with the union steward at the docks. #vwbus
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    Image of powermatic powermatic
    11/06/09

    @badhatharry: Maybe Omar was moving to Amsterdam. #vwbus
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    11/06/09

    @powermatic: Nah. Omar wouldn't have gotten got by no punk-ass customs official. #vwbus
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/06/09

    In reply to VW Bus Stolen 35 Years Ago Found In Shipping Container
    You're in good, sticky hands with Allstate.

    Original owner was paid $2500 on a 10-year-old bus. Okay, not bad when you consider depreciation. We don't know what kind of shape it was in when stolen, but probably not fabulous - it was stolen from a repair shop after all. But dang - the restorer is getting it in the shorts. It sucks that he's getting screwed mightily on a vehicle that's been twisting in the wind since the 70s. You'd think they'd have caught up to it by now - I mean, c'mon. How many times has it been registered? How many times has it been sold? If it hadn't been for the brighter spotlight of getting tagged by DHS, Allstate might never have heard about it, and still wouldn't care.

    Allstate has the opportunity to make an absolute PR bonanza out of this, but I'm betting they're going to go for the money instead. #vwbus
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/06/09

    @Elhigh: He'll have a claim against Allstate. #vwbus
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    Image of BigHarv BigHarv
    11/06/09

    @Elhigh: You know, I only have so much sympathy for the owners here; the VIN should have been checked when it was purchased, just like with any car purchase. It's not hard, it's not expensive. #vwbus
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/06/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: No, he won't. The owner of record was obligated to do the due diligence part of the property's provenance, and he, like Allstate, failed to do all the discoveries. This is a sad example of a chain of overlooked recordkeeping. I bet this thing could've been found a long time ago.

    I mean, they are able to determine now, 35 years after the fact, that it's the vehicle that got stolen from thus-and-such and Allstate paid out on it. So we know there's a record trail on this thing that is still cohesive from one end to the other. But nobody's antenna has gone up in all the time since then? Nobody's?

    The current owner is responsible for the soundness of the title, but if the report he gets back doesn't have any flags - or he doesn't do a title search - it's still assumed that he's made the necessary investigations. It's a risk you take, placing faith in the previous owner that the provenance is legit. Allstate is getting a helluva deal on this, and has a lot of room to generate some warm fuzzies. #vwbus
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    11/06/09

    @Elhigh: Or you could explain it correctly-well said. Still hope Allstate does something cool here. #vwbus
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    Image of FormerlyPreferredCustomer FormerlyPreferredCustomer
    11/06/09

    @Elhigh: Understood that he wouldn't have a claim for the van itself against Allstate; Allstate gets that back, since they have the superior title. But why wouldn't he have something in the nature of a tort claim of unjust enrichment against Allstate? After all, we are not talking about natural appreciation in the value of the asset--we are talking about parts, materials and labor that were added to the asset to increase it's market value.

    EDIT: I confess to a huge amount of ignorance as to how these systems interconnect, as well, but is it necessarily the case that a VIN that had been reported stolen and was still in police databases would have been flagged...where? At the DMV? How does one even go about validating a VIN? Is there a national-level database that used-car purchasers can search? I mean, there's clearly one that ICE has access to, but is it publicly available/interconnected with all state systems?
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    Elhigh promoted this comment Edited by FormerlyPreferredCustomer at 11/06/09 12:17 PM FormerlyPreferredCustomer was starred FormerlyPreferredCustomer was unstarred
    Image of Skunky Skunky
    11/06/09

    @BigHarv: This is what happens when you only get a car fox report.
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    Image of Arcweld Your Soul Arcweld Your Soul
    11/06/09

    @BigHarv: A 1965 VW Bus wouldn't have a VIN, it would have a VW serial number.

    The VIN was only introduced in 1981. #vwbus
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    Image of BigHarv BigHarv
    11/06/09

    @Arcweld Your Soul: Nuts, figured I'd screw that up #vwbus
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/06/09

    @FormerlyPreferredCustomer: You think you're ignorant? Hell, I'm making guesses based on logic and a thin smattering of experience. Your statement regarding unjust enrichment has value - he's probably got a real leg to stand on there. Simply compare the stated value of $25,000 vs. the expected value of an unrestored 1965 T1 and I reckon he could be in for a check. That's an angle I hadn't considered, just the fact of ownership. #vwbus
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    Image of I was drivin' that Model A I was drivin' that Model A
    11/06/09

    In reply to VW Bus Stolen 35 Years Ago Found In Shipping Container
    What amazes me more than anything is the quality of the paint on the door.

    Lookit that! For the past at least 15 years, you've been able to see moon surface-style orange peel at this distance...OEM, no less.

    I know it's restored, but still. #vwbus
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/06/09

    In reply to VW Bus Stolen 35 Years Ago Found In Shipping Container
    Maybe next the DHS can track down all those socks I've lost over the years in the dryers at laundromats?

    Just saw a great Dutch movie, 'Eldorado', about a guy who imports big American iron to Yurp, and a road trip he makes. If you can handle a brief, gratuitous full frontal old Alain Delon... #vwbus
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/06/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Sorry, no can do. Yuck. #vwbus
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    11/06/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: That was about Alain, not your socks. #vwbus
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/06/09

    In reply to VW Bus Stolen 35 Years Ago Found In Shipping Container
    How could restoring an American version of this vehicle for sale in Europe possibly be profitable? #vwbus
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    Image of abgwin abgwin
    11/06/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: vintage VWs in Europe rust out even worse than the ones here. Plus, US spec is rare there, ergo in demand.
    What sells for $10K here is worth half again as much there. #vwbus
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    Image of Sam Sam
    11/06/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: VW Busses are much cheaper to buy in the US. They're rarer in europe due to rust etc. I know a couple of people who have inported them to the UK (from California)as even with the expense of shipping it still works out cheaper. #vwbus
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    Image of cesariojpn cesariojpn
    11/06/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told:

    You obviously have never seen the British Car Show Wheeler Dealers where some fat f*** named Mike Brewer buys up near-classic cars and hands it over the Edd China to fix and restore to sell on for a crackin' profit.

    In the VW Bus episode, before he was forced to get a 80's VW Van and turn it into a campervan, he lamented at the fact that unrestored rustbucket examples easily tipped the meter at 4,000 pounds. #vwbus
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    Image of CaptMatt15 loves the Zoom-Zoom CaptMatt15 loves the Zoom-Zoom
    11/06/09

    @cesariojpn: I think you've described the show to a T! Haha, I enjoy it but sometimes I just want to yell at that Mike guy to shut the F*** up and stop screwin with the cars! #vwbus
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    Image of cesariojpn cesariojpn
    11/07/09

    @CaptMatt15 loves the Zoom-Zoom: Ever see the Bentley episode? God, the respray was shyte. Should've left it blue instead of painting it grey.

    Oh, and theirs a much more funnier synopsis of the show for the Mazda Miata episode on Youtube: [www.youtube.com]
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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    11/06/09

    In reply to VW Bus Stolen 35 Years Ago Found In Shipping Container
    I was going to blame the Dutch as soon as I saw the picture. And wouldn't you know, it was actually headed for Holland. Damn you clog wearing, ample disposable income having, car enthusiasts! #vwbus
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    10/31/09

    In reply to Pace Bus On The Race Track: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
    I'm calling foul. The bus is in way too nice shape. There's no way it cost less than $500. And it's probably over the weight limit, too. #bus
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    10/31/09

    In reply to Pace Bus On The Race Track: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?

    I want to ride a bus where the driver is wearing a hat like that! Maybe it's time for all-bus heats somewhere at a Lemons. This would be even scarier but you could of course go Furthur. #bus
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    Image of CptSevere CptSevere
    10/31/09

    @Novaload: You're either on the bus or you're off the bus. If Neal Cassaday was still around, you can bet he'd be a contender. #bus
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    Image of Mr. M Mr. M
    10/31/09

    In reply to Pace Bus On The Race Track: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
    ...and you didn't even jump any under-construction bridges that were conveniently missing segments? I'm disappointed.

    But, this begs another question: what part of the bus blows up if you drop below 55 mph?

    Or does it just blow a head gasket on some toyota somewhere else on the track? #bus
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    10/31/09

    In reply to Pace Bus On The Race Track: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
    Sure it's fun now. Just you wait until you're trying to get home for dinner and the driver keeps blowing right by your stop, heeled over like a sailboat and all the tires howling. #bus
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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    10/31/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: Sounds like typical MUNI in San Francisco... #bus
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    10/31/09

    @Scandinavian Flick: I once knew a MUNI driver. He got his run done, but he was a pretty mellow guy. I used to wind up walking everywhere, because the bus wouldn't ever show until I was within 2 blocks of my destination. And driving was limited because parking in a lot of neighborhoods is a total bitch. #bus
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    10/31/09

    In reply to Pace Bus On The Race Track: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
    This is the worst episode of Bang Bus I've ever seen. #bus
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    Image of jbh11126 jbh11126
    10/31/09

    @LTDScott: FTW #bus
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    Image of DooDaBeeDooBaa DooDaBeeDooBaa
    10/31/09

    In reply to Pace Bus On The Race Track: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
    I hope it wasn't this much fun... #bus
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    10/31/09

    @DooDaBeeDooBaa: Hilarious! Thanks. #bus
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    Image of skitter skitter
    10/31/09

    In reply to Pace Bus On The Race Track: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
    Active ballast is all well and good, but will the brakes hold up for a few laps of Monticello against the CTS-V? #bus
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    Image of stoke stoke
    10/31/09

    @skitter: I could see the weight transfer causing brake bias issues. #bus
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    Image of PaulE PaulE
    10/31/09

    In reply to Pace Bus On The Race Track: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
    Now *there* is a rapid transit system Jalops can get on board with... #bus
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