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    Engine Of The Day: BMW M10

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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    Several parts of my own personal M10 have turned into LeMons trophies, including the Texas 2008 Index of Effluency (an award that went to a 1600). The parts all have a similar burned-up-on-reentry quality, which is notable because the thing was actually running pretty well when I pulled it out.
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    Image of Armand Armand
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    You know, Baron von Falkenhausen was also a bit of a hot rodder. BMW bosses told him to make the new engine for the Neue Klasse cars 1500cc. He gave them their 1500, but (without telling the corporate brass) he made sure it could be bored to 1600 and 1800ccs, then stroked to a full 2 liters. This meant that BMW didn't really need to change too much to increase the performance of the NK sedan, and with a few Baron-influenced tweaks the 1800 TiSA became the first touring car to lap the Nurburgring in under ten minutes. Then, when BMW built a smaller car to sell alongside the NK sedans, our buddy Alex decided it needed a little more punch. For his daily driver, he put the M10 from the 2000 sedan into the little 1600... and the rest is history.


    That's right, Jalops: When Alex von Falkenhausen wasn't busy having an awesome name, he took time out to create the legendary 2002 for his own personal use.

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    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    Baron Alex von Falkenhausen, Kugelfischer PL04 + KKK turbo=



    Ze Germanz pleaze go back to your rootz.
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    Image of .357 .357
    04/12/09

    @DЯ. BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ: KKK turbo? Very interesting.
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    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    A hypothetical for all you Professors of Jalopnicity out there: Let us say I have a spritely older E30 towed to my hypothetical home. It has one of these M10s in it, but it's been through a lot. My question is, does this engine perform well enough to merit working on it and maintaining it to keep it in running order (I don't care about keeping things "original" in any way), or would I be best off just spending the money up front and throwing a Chevy small block in it?


    For the record, I am not a troll, though I have found fishing the supports under bridges to be very worthwhile.

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    04/12/09

    @gone fishin' with eggwich del fiero: I never would have guessed you were a fisherman!
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    04/12/09

    @gone fishin' with eggwich del fiero: Scratch the SBC, drop in an R3 Studebaker 289!
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    04/12/09

    @Gutpunch McRodbender, a strolling player's understudy: Don't mind him, he's been jonesin' for an R3 in the CSRSL for days now.
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    04/12/09

    @Baron Plushroom von Falconpunchen: I'm donating all fish caught this holy week to Jesus.
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    04/12/09

    @gone fishin' with eggwich del fiero: Somehow I want a stick-on Jesus fish with "EGGWICH" written inside it now.
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    Image of Armand Armand
    04/12/09

    @gone fishin' with eggwich del fiero: Okay, to be serious(ly pedantic):

    The M10 can indeed be made to perform. The 2002tii had about 130 horsepower from its mechanically injected M10, and with dual Webers, a hot cam and some head work, you can easily surpass that. With newer cars, though, smog regs can cramp your style. The only E30 with an M10 was the 318i, at the very beginning of E30 production. They kicked out about 100 horses with Bosch injection, and they aren't very sought-after. There were later 318s with the 140-horsepower M40 engine, a real sweetheart of a twin-cam motor that you might enjoy swapping in. Or you can put in a 240-horse 3.2-liter inline six from an E36 M3 (yes, it's possible) and have a kickass sleeper that's still all BMW and doesn't have too much weight over the front wheels. There are plenty of engine swaps available for the E30; I've heard the most difficult thing is getting all the electronics to work together.


    And if you don't like electronics, there's always the Studebaker R3, or the Oldsmobile Jetfire 215 turbo.

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    04/12/09

    @Armand Bengle: R3! Yes! I like you!
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    04/13/09

    @Baron Forged von Crankenrods, aka Lord Weber (aka Armand): I'd go with the Olds.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    So simple. Plain, even.

    A honest 4-banger that grew up to find itself surrounded by -- I was going to say "money and a-holes," but let's just enjoy this fine engine today.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    I will take two. One in M10 trim for streetability. One in M12 trim for all-out racerness.


    The M10 was the Clark Kent to the Superman M12, which raced in Touring Car and F1 and pretty much everwhere between. If I'm not totally cracked out, the M12 was capable of 1500 hp with a turbo in its F1 configuration.

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    Image of Evan McMiller Evan McMiller
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    burn_2002 already said it, but its so amazing I'm gonna say it again, can't believe that block and similar crank made 1400hp! The engine did have peak power levels at around 1400, not for long though. But I think it raced at about 1k-1100. Amazing.
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    04/12/09

    @Evan McMiller:
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    Image of rudolphdude rudolphdude
    04/12/09

    @Tomsk aka Studly del Torquewrench, Esq.: How did this video become no longer available in like 3 hours?
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    04/12/09

    @rudolphdude: It's working for me right now.
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    Image of .357 .357
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    Its no straight six, but this is one amazing engine.
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    04/12/09

    @.357:Half Man-Half Amazing: Two third amazing..
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    04/12/09

    @Baron BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ von Kurbelwelle und Pleuelstange: Haha, joke's on you. I changed my name.
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    Image of tazzzz tazzzz
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    Had a 2002 Alpina race car, on the street in Germany in 72 & 73 (rallied it in local/regional events) that had the Alpina mods + turbo -- man that thing would FLY !!!
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    04/12/09

    @tazzzz: Taadaa..

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    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    And thanks a lot, I suddenly want this very badly:

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    Image of voodoojoo voodoojoo
    04/12/09

    @Gutpunch McRodbender, a strolling player's understudy: That is a remarkably pretty car.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    "Gutpunch McRodbender"? I'm thinking "Stump Beefknob".
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    04/12/09

    @F*ckingPlushroom: Do it.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/12/09

    @Gutpunch McRodbender, a strolling player's understudy: Better yet!
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    04/12/09

    @Baron Plushroom von Falconpunchen: I gave up on "Blast Plushcheese".
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    04/12/09

    @Baron Plushroom von Falconpunchen: Baron von Falconpunchen. Jesus. You have me reeling.


    Good thing there're absolutely no customers today. Bonus: you'd fit right in on Kotaku!

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    Image of cyclopticgaze cyclopticgaze
    04/12/09

    @Blast Plushcheese: Rowsdower. Zapp Rowsdower!
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    04/12/09

    @Baron Plushroom von Falconpunchen: Oh yeah, I think everyone needs a macho engine designer name. I'd change mine, but I betcha it would kill the Gawker hamsters.
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    04/12/09

    @Baron Plushroom von Falconpunchen: Is this a perfect time for a Stud Beefpile revival or what?


    Somebody call the Canadians!

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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    04/12/09

    @Gutpunch McRodbender, a strolling player's understudy: I totally want to change my name to Baron Alex von Falkenhausen now. I mean, legally change it.
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    04/12/09

    @Murilee Martin: Would you ditch the nom de plume upon doing so? I approve of this decision. Either way.
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    Image of Armand Armand
    04/12/09

    @Baron Plushroom von Falconpunchen: Whoa, guys, if you keep changing your names, how are we going to have any continuity around here?
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    04/12/09

    @Armand Bengle: What a dick.
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    04/12/09

    @Armand Bengle: We can all use a little [cough] discontinuuity every now and again!
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    04/12/09

    @Gutpunch McRodbender, a strolling player's understudy: I think I've found my super-engine designer/German Pornstar name. Reminds me of that Citroen Commercial.


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    04/13/09

    @Gutpunch McRodbender, a strolling player's understudy: Sorry, I've been at the folks house. That was such a great setup, I wish I'd gotten here before you. Darn you McRodbender, my arch-nemisis!


    Now I'll need a cool engine designer name. I'll get back to you on that.

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    @Monsieur Discontinuité Jean Baptiste Marie de Hydropneumati...: You, sir, have done very well. I'm going to call this maybe the best cool engine designer name I've seen thus far.
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    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    Them BM-dubs is alllllright, but you shoulda seen my work on the ol' Toronado Rocket! That mother coulda ate this for breakfas'!
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    Image of Dhillaz 2.0 Dhillaz 2.0
    04/12/09

    @Gutpunch McRodbender, a strolling player's understudy: You were pretty quick on the name there.
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    04/12/09

    @Dhillaz: Are you suggesting something?
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    Baron Alex von Falkenhausen for Fuhrer!
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    Image of tony-e30 tony-e30
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    And, by the way, all of those zip-ties are per the original engineering drawing...
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    04/12/09

    @tony-e30: That's a genuine race car engine there! You're looking at the no-doubt-cheatin' engine of the Index Of Effluency winner at the 24 Hours Of LeMons Texas '08 race.
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    Image of CypressCarNut CypressCarNut
    04/12/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW M10
    Is he related to Dr. Stephen Falken?
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    04/12/09

    @CypressCarNut- Who's gonna build excitement now?: HELLO BARON FALKENHAUSEN.


    SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?_

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    04/12/09

    @Gutpunch McRodbender, a strolling player's understudy: Nice name.
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    04/12/09

    @engineerd has Ben in his head: I'm glad you like it! Everyone needs a good [om] nom de plume every once and again.
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    04/12/09

    @Gutpunch McRodbender, a strolling player's understudy: I wholeheartedly agree.
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