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BMW Sauber F1.09: BMW's 2009 Formula One Missile

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SeanKHotay
01/20/09

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Follow on to the new ""When I say go, we go. But don't let Frank catch ya!" start sequence:

Non-artist's rendering of Bernie Ecclestone playing "Frank" (haircut not to scale):

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Maxichamp
01/20/09

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You heard it here first folks. Nick Heidfeld will be 2009 champion.
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SeanKHotay
01/20/09

@Maxichamp: Nick Hide-in-the-Field? I don't think so...

Robert 'Kubisay' more likely, I say...
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SeanKHotay
01/20/09

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The red-lights-out standing start is now replaced with:

"When I say go, we go. But don't let Frank* catch ya."

* no, not Sir Williams
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Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
01/20/09

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I'm glad they raised the nose up to better meet the new European pedestrian impact standards. The pit crew's breathing a sigh of relief, too.

I hope the kept the KERS grounding defect as an antitheft device, though. With that on you could park in the worst parts of town, and leave the keys in the ignition with no worries
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monsterajr
01/20/09

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how did FIA decide tiny rear wing but anything goes fugly front wing?? Tiny rear and front wings would make passing far more than a pipe dream for the driver. I love F1, but it is getting harder to defend...
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SeanKHotay
01/20/09

@monsterajr: I believe it was to decrease the wake to increase safety of getting close to ostensibly increase passing opportunities.

I.E., Make Bernie's Lap Parade more exciting (if at the expense of "eye-pleasing")
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the new guy: now with ecoboost
01/20/09

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"Another new feature of the regulations allows the drivers to move the flaps on the front wing upwards or downwards."

Do they allow movable surfaces now? Or did I miss something?

If the "no movable surface" rule is gone, this is HUGE. Like the biggest thing in F1 for years; forget going back to slicks.
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SeanKHotay
01/20/09

@the new guy: The are allowed to change the wing configuration once a lap...and a return to original configuration.

This should allow a low downforce/straight line speed -and- high downforce/twisty configuration, good for Indy or Circuit Gille Villeneuve...oh, wait a minute...

Regardless, worthless on a completely curvey Tilke track.
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LionZoo
01/20/09

@SeanKHotay: Not really. Tilke tracks usually have some ridiculously long straights, and usually more than one. This feature only helps overtaking if there's more than one long straight on the track as or else it's pretty obvious which once you'd trim back downforce on.
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SeanKHotay
01/20/09

@LionZoo: OK, China, Malaysia, etc, point taken.

But we're one the same page of 2009 F1 Rule review book, yes?

"Will still have crappy overtaking opportunities on Tilke tracks"
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SeanKHotay
01/20/09

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Complete with forward-mounted gang reel mower and optional edger.

How do you thing the grass trimmed at cash/Bernie-strapped venues*? Bahrain need not apply...neither Grand Prix du Canada ou France (albeit for opposite reasons).

* Tho it's better than being Max-strapped...at least for the vast majority...
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Graverobber
01/20/09

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That press release would have been a lot shorter had they not repeated the OWG paragraph every fourth paragraph.

Glad to know about the mechanical grip vs. downforce grip tho.
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A strolling player
01/20/09

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So it's a hybrid, then.
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SeanKHotay
01/20/09

@A strolling player can't find Waldo: No, think of the KERS as a shot of nitrous.
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A strolling player
01/20/09

@SeanKHotay: Electric nitrous.
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racerx
01/20/09

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The 2009 F1 cars all look like F1 feeder series cars.
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Ash78, cube farmer
01/20/09

@racerx: Seriously. Had I not seen an associated article, I would have probably thought "Wow, those Skip Barber cars are looking pretty nice these days"
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drewdrawsLA
01/21/09

@racerx: Yeah, these new proportions take some getting used to (it's that front wing really).

Have to say that this BMW is probably the least attractive of the new cars though, the Renault having a wacky retro 70's design and paint job and the new Ferrari having a very sexy hind-quarters with projecting polished exhausts.
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jduffy13
01/20/09

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Really, does anyone watch F1 for real?

I mean anyone who has a life, a nice car, a girlfriend, a job, a gym membership, a pet fish to feed, friends and family to hang out with.

God only knows what F1 viewers look like. Probably just as scary as NASCAR fans.
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fodder650
01/20/09

@jduffy13: As an F1 and WRC fan who doesnt fit the mold. Let me say that F1 fans do not look like NASCAR fans.

Mullets are not worn in Europe for example
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brandegee
01/20/09

@jduffy13: I think most of us here would watch it if it's on, but I don't really seek it out for it's own sake. I would sooner watch F1 than NASCAR, for sure.

I respect the effort, but it's difficult to care much for the people involved.
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PatFromGundo
01/20/09

@jduffy13: Yeah. Religiously. With my wife, who's an Alonso fan. It's easy, seeing as how it's on Sundays and thus never interferes with our jobs. It also gives us something to talk about with my father-in-law, also an F1 fan, when we go to those family dinners, to which we drive in one of our two nice cars.

You've got me on the gym membership, though.
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the good dr zero
01/20/09

@fodder650: Someone's never been to Spain.
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drewdrawsLA
01/21/09

@jduffy13: Um, like they said - yes.

I have a wife, cat, friends and all the rest. I DVR F1 these days (used to get up religiously, but the commercials always put me back to sleep), but it's still damn fun racing. The speed, braking and skill of the drivers (they even drive in rain!) is enough for me. Passing is a bonus.
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drewdrawsLA
01/21/09

@the good dr zero: Yeah, I was going to mention that. Mullets are a global blight, they just aren't as celebrated in Yurp.
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Ash78, cube farmer
01/20/09

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KERS has a better ring to it than "Super Mario Theissen's Punch Out!"
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Mad_Science
01/20/09

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I'll take "missing the point" for $400, Alex.
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Boosted Lego Wagon
01/20/09

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KERSes, airfoiled again.
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