In Vermont, this list would definitely include an early sixties Corvair. When I was in high school, they were the car to own. They were cheap, you could buy new parts at Target and they were great in the snow. #topten
Huh? I can only really agree with you on the Bug, the Chrysler, the Tempest and the El Camino. The Bertone Volvo says "I am a dork driving the lamest looking car in the world." The Benzes will cost you various arms, legs and even more vital body parts should anything break. With the Alfa, Peugeot and MG, it's not a question of "should" anything break; it's already broken. 2002's in usable condition are not cheap. Instead how about:
1. Any Corvair.
2. Any Studebaker Lark.
3. Just about any pre-1975 Japanese car (think Datsun B210, shovel-nose Toyota Coronas, the first gen Civic or the even smaller Honda 600, etc.)
4. 1960-61 Comet (with the cat-eye taillights)
5. 1977-90 Buick Electra wagon (fully loaded, woodgrain and all, for the sheer decadence of the thing).
6. 1975-80 Buick Skyhawk (rusts like a Vega, but has a real drivetrain)
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@TurboRefrigerator: If you check the bottom of the first post, the italics clarify the point. We listed the years we recommended (in other words, the cars best suited for beater/affordable drivers), not total production run. #topten
@TurboRefrigerator: Also, you're right re: 1980 vs. 1981. (Production ended in October of '80, but there were LEs titled and sold as '81s, which was what threw me off. My mistake.) #topten
@Sam Smith: I saw the italicized note. Perhaps I should have clarified better, too. I didn't know if people would think that 68-81 was the full run, in lieu of the erroneous '81 date being thrown in there.
You know how much of a stickler us British car people tend to be. It allows us to maintain that stiff upper lip when we see a clearance light, assorted and assundry bolts, or trim ring go bouncing off behind us when we are flying down the interstate.
Volvo...
like wearing sweatpants in public, or making art out of re-bar and 2x4s, or owning a Yellow Lab like the one in that 242 Bertugly. It just says, "I have no aesthetic, no style, no ambition. I never want to go fast or look good if it means I have to try." #topten
@Scoutch: That is a 262, not a 242. That is also a Great Dane, not a Labrador.
Count yourself lucky, for I own TWO Volvos. That means 50% less ambition than even the average Volvo owner. Otherwise, I'd really give you hell for your ignorance in, well, what appears to be everything. #topten
Good list. Now if only any of those listings were commonplace cars, and not impossibly rare. 'Round these parts, there are a few El Caminos and a few more Rancheros (mostly junk yard examples), but that's about it.
I think, what should be added are:
-Toyota Land Cruiser. Because, its a Toyota that can play with CJ Jeeps.
-Any old American truck. By old, I mean pre-1992 if its a Ford, pre-1988 if its a Chevy/GMC, pre-1994 if its a Dodge. Why? Because, speaking from experience, a Ford short bed with a big ass V8 is just as fun and almost as fast as a stock Mustang or Camaro from the same vintage.
-Ford Aerostar, Dodge Caravan (of 1980s vintage). Because they're like the new '75 Econoline.
-Ford Tempo, Mercury Topaz (pre-1993). Surprise, surprise. Why? Because diesels, powerized seat belts, sub 2.5k weight, and all wheel drive are cool. #topten
@Ford Tempo Fanatic: I think you'd get more points with a Ram Charger than a plain Dodge pickup. Much rarer and much much rarer than the Broncos and Blazers of that vintage.
I still kick myself for buying a new car instead of a friend's Ram Charger that was so faded the red was more of a pink/dusty rose. Driving that to work - where every car in the lot seems to be a Civic/Corolla S/Camry - I'd be the accountant with an attitude. #topten
@ursa: Seconded. I have yet to see a Ram Charger in person, but, its not like old school Broncos are commonplace either. Its those damn first generation Explorers and the shittastic S-10 Blazers that fill the lots at Wal-Mart and 7/11.
Ram Charger, older Bronco. Both good candidates for a sweet daily driver. Plus you get that indestructible reliability of their truck counterparts. #topten
A Peugeot 505 Turbo S was my only car, 1997-2001. Sure, my mechanic made enough off of me to keep his personal fleet of Peugeots running (no mean feat), but the car was a daily joy.
My main caveat is the shocks. They will cost ten times as much as the entire car to replace, and while the ride on old shocks is alright, it just won't give you the full Autoroutière experience. #topten
That Newport is really speaking to me. Specifically, it's saying: "I would be a great replacement for the Jetta. And the neighbors around here would be appalled."
Yep, a Newport with Cherry Bombs would surely anger the HOA something fierce.
NO INTERNATIONAL???
Check this out, 1974 4x4 Pickup w/60,000 miles, and no rust for $3,300. That's right, no freakin rust! It's also complete and runs great, orginal sales form and paperwork included.
I was so close to buying a Peugeot 505 wagon, I called the seller's work phone over the weekend instead of his cell, he thought I lost interest and sold it. Maybe it was for the best.
It was a 5-speed with a Hemi four cylinder engine. Only problem with the wagons is the gas tank falls out.
I ended up with a Subaru XT as my daily driver. I found out that my local Subaru dealer was also a Peugeot dealer at one time. I asked the veteran parts guy about it, he just looked at me in disgust, and handed me the mono-windshield wiper I ordered.
The Mercedes SL's go for under 1k for a project, about 4-5k for a good driver. The v8 SEL sedans are cheap as chips as they require lots of premium gas, under 2k will get you a very nice one.
The prices for the diesel MB's are going down because the bio/veggie fad is ending, the diesels are getting so worn out now that in the next few years, only enthusiasts will have them. If you go diesel, get a wagon or coupe, they are getting rarer. #topten
Holy crap! Just when I had given up on Jalopnik during the week, this new kid comes by and writes a killer article. Well done, Mr. Smith. I've always enjoyed your articles in Roundel, but I hadn't realized that you were a true Jalop. Any man who appreciates any of these cars (I'm especially fond of the 505 and W108) is all right in my book; the fact that you see the beauty in all of them means that the Jalop is strong with you. #topten
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1. Any Corvair.
2. Any Studebaker Lark.
3. Just about any pre-1975 Japanese car (think Datsun B210, shovel-nose Toyota Coronas, the first gen Civic or the even smaller Honda 600, etc.)
4. 1960-61 Comet (with the cat-eye taillights)
5. 1977-90 Buick Electra wagon (fully loaded, woodgrain and all, for the sheer decadence of the thing).
6. 1975-80 Buick Skyhawk (rusts like a Vega, but has a real drivetrain)
7. Mid 70's Nova (can't kill 'em). #topten
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I own two on the list:
1) 1972 Mercedes 280SE 4.5, and
2) 1990 Alfa Spider #topten
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The MGB was available from 1962-1980, not the 1968-1981 mentioned.
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You know how much of a stickler us British car people tend to be. It allows us to maintain that stiff upper lip when we see a clearance light, assorted and assundry bolts, or trim ring go bouncing off behind us when we are flying down the interstate.
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like wearing sweatpants in public, or making art out of re-bar and 2x4s, or owning a Yellow Lab like the one in that 242 Bertugly. It just says, "I have no aesthetic, no style, no ambition. I never want to go fast or look good if it means I have to try." #topten
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Count yourself lucky, for I own TWO Volvos. That means 50% less ambition than even the average Volvo owner. Otherwise, I'd really give you hell for your ignorance in, well, what appears to be everything. #topten
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I think, what should be added are:
-Toyota Land Cruiser. Because, its a Toyota that can play with CJ Jeeps.
-Any old American truck. By old, I mean pre-1992 if its a Ford, pre-1988 if its a Chevy/GMC, pre-1994 if its a Dodge. Why? Because, speaking from experience, a Ford short bed with a big ass V8 is just as fun and almost as fast as a stock Mustang or Camaro from the same vintage.
-Ford Aerostar, Dodge Caravan (of 1980s vintage). Because they're like the new '75 Econoline.
-Ford Tempo, Mercury Topaz (pre-1993). Surprise, surprise. Why? Because diesels, powerized seat belts, sub 2.5k weight, and all wheel drive are cool. #topten
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I still kick myself for buying a new car instead of a friend's Ram Charger that was so faded the red was more of a pink/dusty rose. Driving that to work - where every car in the lot seems to be a Civic/Corolla S/Camry - I'd be the accountant with an attitude. #topten
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Ram Charger, older Bronco. Both good candidates for a sweet daily driver. Plus you get that indestructible reliability of their truck counterparts. #topten
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My main caveat is the shocks. They will cost ten times as much as the entire car to replace, and while the ride on old shocks is alright, it just won't give you the full Autoroutière experience. #topten
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Yep, a Newport with Cherry Bombs would surely anger the HOA something fierce.
/Off to Craig's List #topten
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@evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars: check ebay motors for Chrysler Newport:
[cgi.ebay.com] #topten
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Check this out, 1974 4x4 Pickup w/60,000 miles, and no rust for $3,300. That's right, no freakin rust! It's also complete and runs great, orginal sales form and paperwork included.
That's IHC history right there. #topten
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It was a 5-speed with a Hemi four cylinder engine. Only problem with the wagons is the gas tank falls out.
I ended up with a Subaru XT as my daily driver. I found out that my local Subaru dealer was also a Peugeot dealer at one time. I asked the veteran parts guy about it, he just looked at me in disgust, and handed me the mono-windshield wiper I ordered.
The Mercedes SL's go for under 1k for a project, about 4-5k for a good driver. The v8 SEL sedans are cheap as chips as they require lots of premium gas, under 2k will get you a very nice one.
The prices for the diesel MB's are going down because the bio/veggie fad is ending, the diesels are getting so worn out now that in the next few years, only enthusiasts will have them. If you go diesel, get a wagon or coupe, they are getting rarer. #topten
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It's unhealthy lust and I know it would kill me. Oh well. I still want it. #topten
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