Oh, on the serious side, I think the most terrifying part of this "plan" is that it's mixing car selling with an agenda about energy and trying to weld the two together.
But wait, Mr. Obama--what if cars that sell aren't small eco-misers? In fact, that's almost never been true. So you going to force us to buy them? Or let GM die because of your idealistic energy agenda?
I think you guys are just looking at this as glass half-empy, y'know?
Now that we own this dawg, we can crank out El Caminos, Vettes, old Vettes, '63 Impalas, hot Chevelles and anything else we want, including some pick em ups. We own the joint, right?
bring back the fucking order sheets of the 50s-60s-70s then and let us request the cars we want... you'll get sales, you'll get repeat business, you'll get $$; we'll get optioned cars in whatever flavor.
we can only hope that Obama will help get GM on the right foot by immediately canceling such low-quality, gas-guzzling, brand-diminishing, U.S.'s global image-tarnishing cars such as the Corvette, Cadillac CTS, Camaro, G8 (RIP), and bring the entire Daewoo line over and slap chevy badges and names on it. That will save Detroit, avoid flooding the piers for Al Gore's yachts, and show the world that Amurcca is back and ready to kick ass.
@Tiberiuswise: "Prime Minister Taro Aso: We want to, then we will turn it in to a huge and boring car maker that will give boring cars to the american public, wait, huh? oh we already have and it's called Toyota, you can keep GM then."
@Motor_Yakuza: My boring Toyotas both work. Every day. Without complaint. One might even say they're so reliable, they're boring. Maybe the engine computer can be tweaked to provide some occasional excitement in the form of an intermittently flashing "check engine" light or a non-firing #3 cylinder. Oh yeah, that would be GM, which is why people are buying all those Toyotas.
I rented a Pontiac G6 over the weekend. I was just thinking that it's not a bad car, and that maybe GM really was putting some effort into improving their quality. The car was quiet, smooth, comfortable and not bad looking. Then the 20,000 mile car broke down on me, computer became possessed, the headlights shut off and engine died at 10:00 at night. It would only run for about 10 seconds after restarting, and the computer displaying "ERROR." And my preconceived notions about GM were realized, it was pretty damn depressing.
@LamerX - Reverse donuts on your lawn!: You do realize the inherent inequality and injustice in your formulating an opinion of a car based on your experience with a rental, right? My rental Camry a few years ago rattled like they'd filled the inner doors with marbles and ball-bearings. I know that has less to do with the Camry, and more to do with the fact that everyone who rents a car will beat it like a redheaded step-son.
Come on, with that 100% rental insurance, wouldn't everyone on the planet do their damnedest to make sure that G6 got more hang-time than Super Dave Osborne? And you wonder why it has issues? 10,000 rental miles is like 300,000 regular-owner miles.
@LamerX - Reverse donuts on your lawn!: I rented an '09 Jeep Compass over the weekend. I was ready to be stunned by its suckiness; I wasn't. I couldn't say I was actually impressed by any stretch, but I could sum up it's major faults thus:
- 100% black plastic interior,
- engine sounds like a motorboat,
- exterior looks like a tribute to Tex Avery.
The driving position was actually quite agreeable, handling was no worse than most cute-utes and better than many, and I found it quite practical overall.
In summary, I think its no worse a car than a G6. Of course, that's not huge praise, and my Compass didn't die or freak out on me, which is always a plus.
@Graverobber: But Obama seems to like Chrysler products. One of twelve people in the United States who still do, but I guess that explains why he doesn't want GM.
@DearthƔir: True dat. BTW, this was in interesting article I read while waiting on a tire repair at THE WORLD'S LARGEST TOYOTA DEALER last Saturday. Seems people think they're giving Chryslers away:
@FrankGrimes: Yes, those are called niche products, and quite frankly, they're not actually that good. Now, before you start hurling the accusation that he is gay, might I inquire what's wrong with being gay in the first place?
If you've got something to say on the internet, at least make it constructive, informative and interesting. Otherwise, your just taking up space. And quite frankly, I don't need any more space taken up. And if I do, I'll just install some fake ferns, and I don't need your help. Sorry to flame, but I've noticed a lot of crap posting going on.
@Baron Schm Von Shamwoüzen und taxis: You are right, Baron. Jalopnik is consistently the most civilized--and yet still hilarious and outrageous--places on these here interwebz.
@wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx: Funny that you mention it. I think we should all look to the German government as an example of why mixing politiks and business is bad news bears.
Get over your fear of the vague threat of communism/socialism or whatever other -ism is invading your unshielded brain and try to understand that the simple choice is to either let the whole industry collapse and take the economy with it or make the hard choice and find the least-damaging way to try to keep some portion of these companies alive and employing people.
I'm so sick of every news items on this topic being met with the doomsday predictions of a population convinced that the current administration is out to enslave your women, eat your babies and turn you into an indentured servant on a commune somewhere.
Did I hear right in that the company will separate into two entities Good GM (Chevy, Buick, Cadillac, & 'kept' plants exit bankruptcy in 60-90 days) and Bad GM (Opel, Saab, Pontiac, Hummer, & closed plants, on indefinite hold/bankruptcy)?!
06/30/09
Within the land of Jalopistan the usage of Twitter is henceforth forbodden! Forbodden I say!
DIE TWITTER DIE
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But wait, Mr. Obama--what if cars that sell aren't small eco-misers? In fact, that's almost never been true. So you going to force us to buy them? Or let GM die because of your idealistic energy agenda?
06/01/09
Now that we own this dawg, we can crank out El Caminos, Vettes, old Vettes, '63 Impalas, hot Chevelles and anything else we want, including some pick em ups. We own the joint, right?
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bring back the fucking order sheets of the 50s-60s-70s then and let us request the cars we want... you'll get sales, you'll get repeat business, you'll get $$; we'll get optioned cars in whatever flavor.
nuhnuhna-NO!! DO IT!
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/io9 nerd
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/facepalm
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You're not alone.
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Come on, with that 100% rental insurance, wouldn't everyone on the planet do their damnedest to make sure that G6 got more hang-time than Super Dave Osborne? And you wonder why it has issues? 10,000 rental miles is like 300,000 regular-owner miles.
06/01/09
- 100% black plastic interior,
- engine sounds like a motorboat,
- exterior looks like a tribute to Tex Avery.
The driving position was actually quite agreeable, handling was no worse than most cute-utes and better than many, and I found it quite practical overall.
In summary, I think its no worse a car than a G6. Of course, that's not huge praise, and my Compass didn't die or freak out on me, which is always a plus.
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Not enough bling.
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[www.latimes.com]
06/01/09
What are you gay?
ZR1
Camaro
Cobalt SS
06/01/09
If you've got something to say on the internet, at least make it constructive, informative and interesting. Otherwise, your just taking up space. And quite frankly, I don't need any more space taken up. And if I do, I'll just install some fake ferns, and I don't need your help. Sorry to flame, but I've noticed a lot of crap posting going on.
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What are we, Lower Saxony?
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Goddamn are you a bunch of paranoid pussies.
Get over your fear of the vague threat of communism/socialism or whatever other -ism is invading your unshielded brain and try to understand that the simple choice is to either let the whole industry collapse and take the economy with it or make the hard choice and find the least-damaging way to try to keep some portion of these companies alive and employing people.
I'm so sick of every news items on this topic being met with the doomsday predictions of a population convinced that the current administration is out to enslave your women, eat your babies and turn you into an indentured servant on a commune somewhere.
Its just business.
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Thankfully people like you are no longer ruining this country. Intelligence is the new black.
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WTF is that?!