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    Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    What DFWguy said...


    It would be great if SAAB could break free of the dead weight of GM that I can't see having benefited them much at all. And GM sure didn't know what do with them. I just can't see it happening successfully.


    Maybe Volvo and SAAB can team up with FIAT, who just said they wanted a partner, and then you'd get Italian for Beginners...

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    Image of OG_ OG_
    12/11/08

    @Van Sarockin: You mean like this?


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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    12/12/08

    @OG_: My parents leased one of these, which is the closest we ever got to having a Swedish car in the yard. Unbelievable that anyone else remembers it!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    I'm telling you, Saab, Volvo, one company. Give Saab the weird performance stuff, and Volvo the safe-as-a-vault family haulers. It could work.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    Does Sweden know that it can probably buy them for the same price?
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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    "...the rest of Sweden's...auto industry"


    What else do they have besides Saab and Volvo? Is Sven cranking out some bizzarre, ice-powered supercars behind his local watering hole?

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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    12/11/08

    @mechimike: You mean like [www.koenigsegg.com]

    On the supplier side, there is [www.haldex.com] they make all wheel drive systems for everything from Volvo to Bugatti.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/11/08

    @mechimike: Yes, they're called Koenigsegg.
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    Image of Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage! Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage!
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    Let the ReSwedefication commence!


    As much as I love my 9-3, I must admit to missing some of the quirkiness of the "real" SAAB years...

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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    12/11/08

    @Gearhead_42: They never lost the quirkiness (ah, cable clutches, DI boxes, engine sludge, disappearing emblems, flaming seats, etc, etc), just much of the charm.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/11/08

    @Gearhead_42: Yeah, I pulled up beside one at a stop light last night and thought Damn, you don't see those anymore. Bring back the Strange Saabs!
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    Image of blogenfreude blogenfreude
    12/11/08

    @Gearhead_42: Do they still have the ignition on the floor?
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    12/11/08

    @blogenfreude: I don't know about "on the floor", but I know that you still insert keys on top of the transmission tunnel.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    12/11/08

    @Gearhead_42: I remember having a whole lot of fun cruising in the old 9-3 Cabrio with my friends. We knew that it probably looked really gay with 4 guys in a SAAB cabrio, but that probably added to the Swedish charm of the car.
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    Image of c1josh c1josh
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    240... I want an Amazon.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    12/11/08

    @c1josh: Me too. One of each kind.
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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    12/11/08

    @DoctorNine of Se7en: I had a 2 door, four door, and a wagon, but the 4 door recently met an untimely end.


    If Volvo made a modern 122, I might queue up for it...

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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    12/11/08

    @c1josh: Oh man. Amazon is the only Volvo I really lusted after. Especially
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    Image of TheresAPartyInMyPants TheresAPartyInMyPants
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    Bring back the 240!
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    Image of Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage! Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage!
    12/11/08

    @z974647:


    242


    Turbo


    Wagon ;)

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    Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage! was starred Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage! was unstarred
    Image of mzs mzs
    12/11/08

    @Gearhead_42: The problem with that is that it would have been 245 or maybe you don't want a passenger side door, which would be pretty cool admittedly.
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    12/12/08

    @mzs: It'd still be a 243. And you're right, a Volvo Nomad would be pretty hot.
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    Image of dfwguy dfwguy
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    Our current cars are our 3rd and 4th SAABs. The "GMification" / decontenting of the brand has been quite sad. Calling the GM/SAAB customer service line is a training session for going postal. While my logical side truly understands the importance of saving GM, my experience with them says give the execs a pair of cement overshoes and a trip to the river bottom.
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    Image of kleinlowe kleinlowe
    12/11/08

    @dfwguy: I've heard the exact same thing from every single Saab owner I know. Usually with more spittle and obscenity, though. If the sheer vitrol and spite of customers could be converted into bankable assets, GM would be covered.
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    Image of Cameage Cameage
    12/11/08

    @kleinlowe: Yeah, sometimes I think I'm the only Saabisti that doesn't hate GM.


    It's damn hard defending General Motors when talking to other Saab nuts.


    They also all really seem to hate Cadillac.

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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    12/12/08

    @NotACoolGuy: The 9-7X killed any chance of Saabies accepting the General.
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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    Børk! Børk! Børk! F-T-W!
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    12/12/08

    @SCROGGZILLA RAIDS AGAIN!!: No, no, no. You're doing it wrong. "Børk! Børk! Børk!" is Danish, we Swedes say "Börk! Börk! Börk!".


    Now write "Börk! Börk! Börk!" one hundred times on the blackboard (or message board of your choice).

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    Image of ShastaMcNasty ShastaMcNasty
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    The US hasn't approved squat, despite all the headlines in the Detroit papers.


    It's kinda like when you're 10 years old and trying to set up a sleepover at your best friend's house. You asked mom, and she said "well, it's OK with me but I still need to talk to your dad."


    Sure, you can pack your sleeping bag up if you want, but it's not time to get in the car just yet.

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    Image of ROCKYLIFE ROCKYLIFE
    12/11/08

    @ShastaMcNasty:

    Simply a matter of the proper bribes and pork barrel projects getting in place. There's no question that this package, and even more (yes, start the message board hand-wringing now) will be passed.
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    12/11/08

    @ROCKYLIFE: Kermit approves of more pork barrel.
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    12/12/08

    @ROCKYLIFE: Hello ROCKYLIFE, I am from the future and I'm afraid that things haven't turned out as you expected.


    Yet, at least.

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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    Lambda Hope and Glory
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    Image of General Halfshaftery General Halfshaftery
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    The world has bailout fever, and i'm the cure...or something.
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    Image of returnofdarazz returnofdarazz
    12/11/08

    @General Halfshaftery: False the only cure is MORE COWBELL
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/11/08

    @returnofdarazz:
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    GM and Chrysler to the Senate: "C'mon, Mom and Dad! Say yes! Look, all the other kids' parents said it's OK!! I promise, we'll be good!!!"
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    Image of layabout layabout
    12/11/08

    In reply to Sweden Creates $3.4 Billion Meatball For Volvo, Saab
    Steady on,this could mean drastic cuts in the Swedish porn industry.
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    Image of sos10 sos10
    12/11/08

    @layabout met the real Santa:Buy a Saab, get a free hooker.
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