First World luxury cars, Third World taxicabs, and upper-middle-class minivans. Outside of Toyota/Nissan in their home market, who else could pull that off?
Make a B63 AMG and it'd be interesting. Ooh, or a B65 AMG! Just don't ask me how to shoehorn a V12 biturbo into that thing. I'll leave that to the engineers.
At least the current B-Class is unique: A tall, roomy hatchback that somehow manages to squeeze a E-Class sized interior into a Golf-sized exterior. That's the reason for the excellent sales numbers. This new one: meh.
We'll I say keep it the way it is. Let the Europeans drive it. I'm tired of being jealous of the offerings they have over there. Their super diesels, their multiple turbo offerings.
Now I won't be as jealous. When I talk to relatives and they tell me how wonderful a certain new car is, I'll just say: Yes, but what about the new Mercedes B-Class?
They will have no choice but to shut-up.
Thank you Mercedes, unless you plan on shipping it here- don't, please.
I drove a B-class around Europe last summer and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. It drove well, cruised at 120mph comfortably on the Autobahn, fit 4 adults and luggage easily and somehow didn't look ridiculous (silly, yes, ridiculous, no).
@Ash78: I wouldn't say its pompous, its about 75% smart and 23% pompous to me. Its smart to keep it upscale where more people have money. Its pompous too.
The last 2% is balls. I think Mercedes has that little bit of balls left they need to crack into. Ew. Crack into balls. *Shudder*
@wrx-fuckingTyrannosaurusWrx: I never said it wasn't smart (er...SMART). But they realize that they have (1)access to the world's biggest car market and (2)a very protected image of high class and wealth, which most of the rest of the world does not have.
I disagree with this and think most manufacturers should run the gamut. Let's put an end to badge snobbery, because it's killing a lot of otherwise great cars. I'd love to see every major company be okay with selling cars from $15k to $100k instead of sub-segmenting it all out. The logical result of that is the GM badgineering clusterfark.
@Ash78:I concede to your point, sir. I agree almost completely. Though, I do think that some companies could literally never sell a subcompact (I just love my Pagani Panda!!!) and some could never make anything more upscale than an Aveo (like Hyundai).
I hate that I can't help with undermine all my own points with humor. This was almost a legitimate and coherent thought until the end. Damn it, Wrx. Keep it together.
@darex: I don't dislike the B-Class. I love cars like this.
Are you in Quebec, by chance? If so, all bets are off because the QC car market more closely resembles Europe. Less so with the rest of Canada, but it's markedly different than the US.
Another case in point: The Mazda 5, another nice vehicle, was the best-selling Mazda there last year...while it was in last place in the US (or maybe second from last). It's all silly.
@FLB: You know what's funny about the R-Class...I see about 6-10 of them every day in the wealthy 'burbs. They're still not as popular as the big GL three-row SUV, but people don't seem to have an aversion to them.
My parents, who live in the Balto/DC area, said they saw more in Birmingham in one day than in the past four years at home.
@Ash78: I live in the Baltimore area and I see a lot more GLs than the R class, but I still see a fair share of the R's. Whenever I see one, I look to see who's driving to see who I can stereotype as driving one of those...odd...things. Usually its men, which surprised me.
It seems like I've seen more women driving the GL and almost every R class has been driven by a man. I'm so confused.
@wrx-fuckingTyrannosaurusWrx: Yeah, the GL is most definitely a woman's car. The R is a mixed bag, like what you say.
I used to see a few R63 models around with manufacturer plates. Sadly, it's very rare these days with the plant cutbacks and the floundering sales of that model. I thought it had potential and was unjustly maligned. The funny thing is that now GM and Ford are offering mainstream versions of the same thing (Acadia, Flex, etc). M-B was just a few years ahead of its time.
@Ash78: I've driven the current B-class, and it's absolutely nothing to get worked up over, it kinda blows. Except the engine sounds wheezy, so maybe I should say it sucks. Eh, it's crap.
It looks like a shrunken R class. With much stupid involved. Mercedes shouldn't make economy cars in the States, it would ruin their whole brand imagine.
Like if Rolls Royce made a cheaper model based off of a parent company's large car architecture. Ha, wouldn't that be stupid to dilute the brand's imagine and not move it further upscale to sell to the rich that are still rich?
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i'm more partial to a Toyota Matrix-ishy styling thanks.
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We'll I say keep it the way it is. Let the Europeans drive it. I'm tired of being jealous of the offerings they have over there. Their super diesels, their multiple turbo offerings.
Now I won't be as jealous. When I talk to relatives and they tell me how wonderful a certain new car is, I'll just say: Yes, but what about the new Mercedes B-Class?
They will have no choice but to shut-up.
Thank you Mercedes, unless you plan on shipping it here- don't, please.
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Bring it Mercedes. I dare you.
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Sort of like Buick in China.
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The last 2% is balls. I think Mercedes has that little bit of balls left they need to crack into. Ew. Crack into balls. *Shudder*
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I disagree with this and think most manufacturers should run the gamut. Let's put an end to badge snobbery, because it's killing a lot of otherwise great cars. I'd love to see every major company be okay with selling cars from $15k to $100k instead of sub-segmenting it all out. The logical result of that is the GM badgineering clusterfark.
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I hate that I can't help with undermine all my own points with humor. This was almost a legitimate and coherent thought until the end. Damn it, Wrx. Keep it together.
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The current B-class is selling very well in Canada.
The R-class was a stupid knee-jerk reaction to their (and others') tired cliché that Americans hate small cars, and hatchbacks. It was ridiculously huge.
We were supposed to get the B-Class too, but it was cancelled for the US market in the end.
The B-class appeals to some of the same people who buy MINI Coopers, although not all (as it's too big, bulky, unsporty for many of them).
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I only remember seeing a single R-Class during that time. It wasn't a failure only in North America.
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Are you in Quebec, by chance? If so, all bets are off because the QC car market more closely resembles Europe. Less so with the rest of Canada, but it's markedly different than the US.
Another case in point: The Mazda 5, another nice vehicle, was the best-selling Mazda there last year...while it was in last place in the US (or maybe second from last). It's all silly.
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My parents, who live in the Balto/DC area, said they saw more in Birmingham in one day than in the past four years at home.
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It seems like I've seen more women driving the GL and almost every R class has been driven by a man. I'm so confused.
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I used to see a few R63 models around with manufacturer plates. Sadly, it's very rare these days with the plant cutbacks and the floundering sales of that model. I thought it had potential and was unjustly maligned. The funny thing is that now GM and Ford are offering mainstream versions of the same thing (Acadia, Flex, etc). M-B was just a few years ahead of its time.
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Like if Rolls Royce made a cheaper model based off of a parent company's large car architecture. Ha, wouldn't that be stupid to dilute the brand's imagine and not move it further upscale to sell to the rich that are still rich?