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MushyHeirloom
12/04/08

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Could be a lot worse. It beats the fuck out of the Camry/AbortionWagonIForgetTheNameOf.
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Mad_Science
12/04/08

@FuzzyPlushroom: Venza

Ewww.
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MushyHeirloom
12/04/08

@Mad_Science: The grille makes me want to slit my wrists. Yep, that's the one.
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aaron x
12/04/08

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Whenever I'm in Ireland, the guy that ends up driving me around drives a 5-door diesel Avensis (with trailer hitch for the - cliché alert - family caravan).

It's a nice ride, actually. And the lease-backs, being both numerous and despised, are super-cheap.

Oh, yeah, 45 m.p.g. Don't drink the haterade.
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pauljones
12/04/08

@aaron x:

A bottle of Paddy does wonders for a man's ability to accept the ugly. Either that or a crapload of dark beer.

On the plus, side, though, 45 mpg is pretty damned impressive.
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A strolling player
12/04/08

@aaron x: Is that per fat British gallon? Not that 37.5 per Amurr-can gallon is bad, but it's not... as good.
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Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
12/04/08

@A strolling player just got CR-Ved!: I don't drink it, I sip it.

I also like the Mondeo and maybe the Vectra better.
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Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
12/04/08

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That wagon doesn't look so shabby. And two liter engine ought to help it stay out of its own way. Could do worse.
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layabout
12/04/08

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Other than the 3 series & A4,it has two other more appealing rivals...

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Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
12/04/08

@layabout: If I were elected president, I would do only three things. First, I would force Ford to import the Mondeo and Mondeo Estate, then force every American (I would hire Ninjas to convince them) to test drive one. Then I would give the Mazda 5 a 5000 dollar tax break. Because, if you buy an actual minivan, I mean, seriously. Just dont.** Then I would devote a huge hulking amount of Federal dollars to a national Autobahn System, because I can. Then I would standardize the crash test and emissions standards with Europe.

Then I would resign, and allow my V.P, who is of course Carmen Electra (Who else?) to lead our nation on to a bright and glorious future!
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layabout
12/04/08

@Schm, lord of Torques!: Well i'd vote for you.
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Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
12/04/08

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I hate to say it but they've already debuted that stupid thing in a commercial. I saw it last night.
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layabout
12/04/08

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If only Toyota would stop with the blandness,they're capable of more...

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MushyHeirloom
12/04/08

@layabout: Doorstops?

I like it, but really. Goodbye rear visibility.
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A strolling player
12/04/08

@FuzzyPlushroom: Hmm, some one hasn't been reading Jalopnik... [jalopnik.com]
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pockygt
12/04/08

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I love how in England the Avensis is a boring mid-management car, but take 2 doors off, change the name, and sell it in America and suddenly it's OMG AWESOME SCION TC BRO.
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Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
12/04/08

@pockygt: Been saying that for a long time. Pretty amazing what a single platform can do (another good one is the current generation Passat/Jetta/Golf/GTI, all on one platform).
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Mad_Science
12/04/08

@The Name's Ash78, Housewares: You forgot A3.

@pockygt: Amazing what a manual transmission, new body structure, springs and shocks can do for a car's character.
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Graverobber
12/04/08

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Did you say Toyota Ass entrance?
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Mad_Science
12/04/08

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If I lived in England, I'd totally get a wagon with the bumper sticker:

"Estate driving sales reps have larger product samples"
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layabout
12/04/08

@Mad_Science: Sales rep's in England drive 3 Series BMW's & Audi A4 TDi's,saloons & estates. No bumper stickers,or indicators by the look of it.
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jnostalgics
12/04/08

@Mad_Science: The estate isn't too bad. Ever since Subaru and Mazda dropped their Legacy and 6 wagons, there's been a wagon dearth in this country.
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layabout
12/04/08

@jnostalgics: The cars you named are still in production in Estate form...

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Pete Gaines
12/04/08

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It's a common practice there to supplement the salaries of mid-level management and business sales reps with free company cars.

Of course, that used to be common practice here, too.
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Mad_Science
12/04/08

@Pete Gaines: Now you have to buy your own touring estates.
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layabout
12/04/08

@Pete Gaines: That information is well out of date,free company cars are a thing of the past. The cheapest way of getting a company car is working for the government,which my gf does.
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Pete Gaines
12/04/08

@layabout: So then it's the same in both countries. Makes sense, since they're all multinational conglomerates now anyways.
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layabout
12/04/08

@Pete Gaines: Yeah the Brits like to tax everything to the hilt. This may be of interest, a company car tax calculator...[www.whatcar.co.uk]
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Mad_Science
12/04/08

@Pete Gaines: On occasion I see Mary-Kay CTSs roaming about.
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layabout
12/04/08

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I'm hearing the mumble of "meh" from the Jalop community
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OldeEnglishD
12/04/08

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Introducing the Toyota Meh...
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pauljones
12/04/08

@OldeEnglishD misses Polar:

Okay, seriously? How boring can this thing be? This thread is pushing forty responses already, this compared to the VW Scirroco R post that has been up all day and has just barely gotten itself past 30.

Obviously, there is some sort of entertainment value here.

On that note, I am surprised that this thread proved more popular than the VW thread.
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Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
12/04/08

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I drove a '99 Avensis (first car I ever tested on the wrong side of the road). It was definitely bland, but not terrible.

Visually, these two look much nicer than most of the US Toyotas. That wagon is pretty nice...and we'll be stuck with the inevitably-4,000# Venza crossover instead.
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Wes Siler
12/04/08

@The Name's Ash78, Housewares: inevitably the quality of vehicle sold sold in europe has, historically, been higher than those sold here. So it goes to reason that the quality of their mediocre vehicles will be higher than the quality of the mediocre vehicles sold here.

That's more a comment on the absolute trash that Detroit foisted upon the American public for several decades than it is on the quality of the Avensis.
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Pete Gaines
12/04/08

@Wes Siler: For proof, look no further than the company cars my parents had at various times during my childhood and adolescence:

Ford LTD

Buick Skylark

Buick Skyhawk

Oldsmobile Firenza

Ford Tempo (2)

Chevy Lumina

Chrysler Cirrus
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theeastbaykid
12/04/08

@Pete Gaines: My dad works for the state of California and there was definitely an AMC Concord at one point in my childhood. That was replaced by a Tempo. Now they don't give him anything and has to drive his personal Miata. Unsurprisingly, he doesn't complain.
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