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    11/11/09

    In reply to Automobile Picks 2010 VW GTI As "Automobile Of The Year"
    What's the difference between the GTI and the GLI? I thought the GLI was the 4 door, the GTI the 2 door. #vwgti
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    11/11/09

    In reply to Automobile Picks 2010 VW GTI As "Automobile Of The Year"
    I guess this is why I don't read Automobile magazine. I guess that's why. #vwgti
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Automobile Picks 2010 VW GTI As "Automobile Of The Year"
    So Motor Trend picks Subaru Outback, Automobile pics the GTI. What does that leave us consumer focused publications? Camaro SS? #vwgti
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Automobile Picks 2010 VW GTI As "Automobile Of The Year"
    It's certainly a neat car and VW does a very nice job with overall feel, design, quality and use of materials. I think Japanese cars in the GTI's range have gotten rather ugly in their desperate attempt to stand out. And the quality of materials used inside has declined over the past decade or two.

    But to call it Automobile of the Year seems to be overrated to me. I suppose the GTI is more relevant in Europe than it is in the US, hence the award. #vwgti
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Automobile Picks 2010 VW GTI As "Automobile Of The Year"
    Car & Driver just ranked the GTI over the MS3 as well, even with the power deficit. The only thing that would make me hesitant about the GTI is VW's reliability issues that were resounding a few years back. I'm not sure if those are resolved yet. #vwgti
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    11/11/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: 73,000 miles with only gas and oil. I've found my 07 reasonably reliable.

    The local Mazda shop couldn't be bothered to provide a test drive.

    The absence of torque steer despite all the midrange pull makes a compelling case for the GTI. #vwgti
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    11/11/09

    @RocketScientist takes the edit button for granted: What I'd heard was electrical niggles and dealerships that were ill-equipped to meet service requirements. Good to hear your POV. Do you report to truedelta.com? #vwgti
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Automobile Picks 2010 VW GTI As "Automobile Of The Year"
    I was still in the midst of my misspent youth as an automotive journalist when the Mk5 came out, and when I opined that the Mazda/Speed3 was better looking and had better steering feel and the only reason why everyone was so ga-ga over the Golf/GTI was due to leather/high-end plastics poisoning, I might as well have had bats flying out of my ears. You can't go wrong with either, but man, they're acting like this thing is the best thing since...since the MK1? C'mon. #vwgti
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Automobile Picks 2010 VW GTI As "Automobile Of The Year"
    Looks like 2010 won't go down as a great vintage for automobiles. #vwgti
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    11/10/09


    @CJinSD: It's not as if the Automobile was an influential publication.

    Here's a Bentley Mulsanne to make you feel better. #vwgti
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    11/10/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Thanks! I needed a good laugh! That car is hilarious. The nose looks like it is off a custom pimpmobile Lincoln MKIII from about 1971. #vwgti
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Automobile Picks 2010 VW GTI As "Automobile Of The Year"
    Wolfgang and the GTI Mk V. #vwgti
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    10/05/09

    In reply to Bankrupt Buff Books Blow Wad On Boosted Lincoln To Beat Bigger-Engined Euros
    They also neglected to mention that the four Euro contenders had their V8s removed and replaced with 1.6 litre diesels from the VW Camper Van.
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    10/05/09

    In reply to Bankrupt Buff Books Blow Wad On Boosted Lincoln To Beat Bigger-Engined Euros
    Car and Driver is busy photoshopping their own race between a Lincoln MKT, Land Rover Discovery, and Toyota Landcruiser across the Sahara.
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    10/05/09

    In reply to Bankrupt Buff Books Blow Wad On Boosted Lincoln To Beat Bigger-Engined Euros
    Beautiful Loveland Pass (11,990) in Colorado. That would be fun to drive with road closed to other traffic. The lack of guardrails in places would scare the flatlanders.
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    10/05/09

    In reply to Bankrupt Buff Books Blow Wad On Boosted Lincoln To Beat Bigger-Engined Euros
    One can't help but notice they're putting a turbo engine against a bunch of NA engines, and sending it to Cessna cruising altitude. Turbo's gonna do good when the air gets thin. That's just how it is.
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    10/05/09

    In reply to Bankrupt Buff Books Blow Wad On Boosted Lincoln To Beat Bigger-Engined Euros
    1. BMW 550 170.9 secs
    2. Lincoln MKS 172.7 secs
    3. Merc 550 174.4 secs
    4. Jag XF 175.4 secs
    5. Maserati 177.1 secs

    So at 12,000ft no kidding a turbo'd motor beat three of the four cars on an unknown length "track". I'd rather get a SHO and save $8,000 over a similarly equipped Lincoln ($42,905 vs. $50,800 priced on the websites) with the toys I want. Yeah its not some Euro luxo sedan but will probably do 95% of what they do for a big chunk of cash savings. Then again I'd probably never buy a new car again and buy a Conan O'Brien SHO and be 100 times happier. That's just how I roll.
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    10/05/09

    In reply to Bankrupt Buff Books Blow Wad On Boosted Lincoln To Beat Bigger-Engined Euros
    The Lincoln placing well was a foregone conclusion given that it was the only turbocharged car at 12,900 feet. But it's still and entertaining set of videos. I wonder how bad the spanking would have been if the winning car was replaced by its turbocharged underling?
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    10/05/09

    @TTopJohn: "Now we do this again with 1,500 RPM rev limiter!"
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    10/05/09

    In reply to Bankrupt Buff Books Blow Wad On Boosted Lincoln To Beat Bigger-Engined Euros
    How about a four-banger Ecoboosted Focus to beat both of them?

    I caught myself doing a double-take as the intro screen pitted a large NA Euro engine against a smaller, boosted American one. Talk about a reversal...
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