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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    10/16/09

    In reply to Happy 100th Birthday, Bernd Rosemeyer
    Two-Hundred-and Farkin'-Seventy, way back THEN??? This guy is my new hero... I can't believe I've never heard of this before! #racing
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    10/15/09

    In reply to Happy 100th Birthday, Bernd Rosemeyer
    Does anyone know what the FDA's stance on eating aluminum bits is? #racing
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    HoonThatFerrari - Once Again w/Star - Always on the Edge, Baby! promoted this comment mgrinshpon was starred mgrinshpon was unstarred
    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    10/15/09

    @mgrinshpon: Yes, as long as you don't exceed the recommended allowance as indictated in the lower portion of the Food Pyramid under "alloys", you're good.... nibble away. #racing
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    10/15/09

    In reply to Happy 100th Birthday, Bernd Rosemeyer
    Just to be a pedant, Bernd's not 100, he's dead. It's the anniversary of his birth. #racing
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    10/15/09

    In reply to Happy 100th Birthday, Bernd Rosemeyer
    Bernd Rosemeyer is definitely a legend. That dedication compared to Raikonnen's is like, comparing, uh, something massive to something, uh, microscopic. #racing
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    10/15/09

    In reply to Happy 100th Birthday, Bernd Rosemeyer
    Coolest cake I've seen since my brother's bachelor party. #racing
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    10/15/09

    In reply to Happy 100th Birthday, Bernd Rosemeyer
    I can haz some cake? #racing
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    10/15/09

    @VeeArrrSix: ucan haz a cheezburger. #racing
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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    10/06/09

    In reply to Bernd Rosemeyer, Now In Chocolate Form
    Rosemeyer was a man among men, and Nuvolari gets my vote as the greatest racing driver of all time. Those guys competed at a time when motor racing was a death sport. Anything that commemorates their heroic skill and bravery is all good in my book, esp. if it tastes good.

    Pete, I think you should not only touch it, you should melt it and pour it over your naked body, if only to infuse yourself with the chocolatey greatness of Herr Rosemeyer.
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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    10/06/09

    In reply to Bernd Rosemeyer, Now In Chocolate Form
    Herr Rosemeyer..during the '36 German Hillclimb Championship
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    10/06/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: Winning the 37 British Grand Prix at Donnington Park
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    10/06/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: and the most Jalopnik Rosemeyer photo ever...Bernd does a burnout in a Auto Union Type C
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    10/06/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: From everything I've heard, it took balls of steel to drive those Auto Unions hard - overpowered, skinny tires, primitive suspensions, and snap oversteer when you least expect it. These cars could kill you if you so much as looked at them wrong. Rosemeyer found out the hard way.
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    10/06/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: That is a great photo. Any chance you know where a high-res version lives?
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    10/06/09

    @Joshman Junção: Didn't know which photo you wanted, so here's links to all of them. Enjoy!
    rosemeyer hillclimb
    [www.seriouswheels.com]
    rosemeyer donnington
    [www.seriouswheels.com]
    rosemeyer burnout
    [img.index.hu]
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    10/06/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: Hello, new desktop wallpaper!
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    10/06/09

    In reply to Bernd Rosemeyer, Now In Chocolate Form
    Sweet.
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    10/06/09

    @skaycog: I don't know, Bernd chocolate doesn't sound very good to me.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    10/06/09

    @superbadd75, with electrolytes!: I don't think I've ever had any bad chocolate.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    10/04/09

    In reply to Ferdinand Porsche - Genesis Of Genius by Karl Ludvigsen
    One of these days Germany will have to come to terms with its past.
    And speaking of Nazis, and cars, Henry Ford, anyone?
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    10/05/09

    @Novaload: Where Ford's angle seemed to be outright bigotry, Porsche seemed to be a naive engineer caught up in a system he neither cared for nor was particularly disgusted by. For example, he is known to have complained about working conditions in the VW wartime factory, of which he was the head for a time, but we don't know whether this was out of compassion or out of concerns for productivity.

    And there was also a nasty question about whether the some children of the forced laborers at this factory were deliberately killed. He may have been too busy testing Kubelwagens and designing tank engines to notice.

    He did pay for his efforts with some time in a cozy French lockup, but deft finagling by family and friends sprung him out before the ultimate vengeance could take root.
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    Image of Flathead  Smith Flathead Smith
    10/04/09

    In reply to Ferdinand Porsche - Genesis Of Genius by Karl Ludvigsen
    I will say this about ole Ferdinand, it is my understanding that he never did join the Nazi party, and that is quite an accomplishment when you consider the day. We like to say that we would have left Germany if faced with such a thing as the Nazi party, but remember it was a matter of incrementalism. In other words it was a situation that took years to devolve into what occurred under Hitler that I would argue started not in 1933, when he came to power, but probably started many years before. By the time Germany became a nightmare, it was nearly too late for anyone to stand a say, "this is wrong". A very few did and died, most just kept there mouths shut, for they thought it was too late, or were involved intimately with the horrible machine.

    Here is good article about an everyday man named Franz Jagerstatter. He was abandoned by all except his wife, but he stood his ground and was executed by guillotine.

    [en.wikipedia.org]

    [www.catholicpeacefellowship.org]

    A majority of the population when faced with someone like Hitler will give in to save his life, rather than take a chance and be destroyed. My question to you is this, what would you do?
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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    10/04/09

    @Flathead Smith: I see creeping elements of this mentality in our political system here in the U.S.S.A. While some may scoff and sneer at my paranoia, the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

    I like to keep them in the refrigerator. Keeps the powder dry and the action quicker.
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    10/04/09

    @Flathead Smith: Ferdinand may or may not have belonged to the Nazi party (I've read accounts that have him joining in 1937) but there's no doubt that he worked closely and often with Hitler personally on civilian and military designs, and went along with the use of slave labor in his industrial plants. The guy was no saint-not by any stretch of the imagination, whether or not he officially belonged to the party or not. Others in Germany (including non-Jews) saw the upcoming rise of the military dictatorship and fought against it-Porsche was very much not one of those people, and isn't really to be congratulated for anything from a humanitarian, or courage in the face of adversity, basis.
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    10/05/09


    @powermatic: This is true, and by working closely with Hitler he helped to further the Nazi party more than many. I’m sure if you asked him why he did, his excuse would not have been much different than the general population. In fact, some of the original concept drawings of the VW Beetle came from ole Adolph himself, which he probably copied, see my next posting.
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    10/05/09


    Something kind of interesting about the Volkswagen is that there is good evidence that the idea of the car, and even the Volkswagen name, probably came from a man named Josef Ganz, a Jew. This car was first shown at a car show in 1933, at which Hitler was present. Ganz was arrested within the year and charged with blackmail, by the Gestapo, for attempting to protect his patent rights.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    10/04/09

    In reply to Ferdinand Porsche - Genesis Of Genius by Karl Ludvigsen
    Wonder if there is to be a second book by Ludvigsen covering Porsche's later career? If so, let's hope it's honest about his relationships with the Nazis. If there is no second book, then there are too many questions left unanswered.

    In 1932, Porsche visited the USSR and the Soviets offered him a high ministry position with extremely generous perks and basically a blank check for vehicle development. Porsche turned it down, but what if it was Stalin rather than Hitler who sponsored and pushed the Volkswagen?
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    10/04/09

    @tonyola: Bereft of their bugs and microbuses, what would hippies and impoverished university types have driven? Though slow to recognize a market, with markedly less competition and more incentive before the Malaise, the American auto industry might have taken a very different path. And without the 911, what target would every other manufacturer gun for while simultaneously deriding its layout? What car would we long for while mocking its demographic? There are many that fit the mold, but none with the longevity. The NSX still would have happened, British Leyland would have died regardless, leaving, in my mind, only Alfa Romeo with the potential to bridge the MGs and the Maseratis.
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    10/04/09

    @skitter: The USSR was never really big on personal transportation for its citizens - don't want the masses scooting around all over the place unsupervised, you know. A People's Car for the Soviet people probably wouldn't have gotten very far. For export, however, it might have been a completely different story. The USSR was always looking for a way to get hard western currency, and flooding Europe with cheap People's Cars subsidized by the State might have been an effective means to get that currency. The USSR was still seemingly relatively benign to many people in the west until the late 1930s, and even afterwards, forced to choose between supporting the Nazis and the Soviets, many would have gone with the latter. In addition, Porsche's talent would have greatly benefited the Soviet war machine during WWII.
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    Image of skitter skitter
    10/04/09

    @tonyola: Very true, but the US markets still would have been fundamentally altered. American beliefs were not so much free market or capitalist, but anti-USSR. Trading with 'the communists' was out of the question.
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    10/04/09

    In reply to Ferdinand Porsche - Genesis Of Genius by Karl Ludvigsen
    Its a superb book. I got the limited edition last year. Very impressive if you are a Porsche nut.
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    Image of gallahad gallahad
    10/04/09

    In reply to Ferdinand Porsche - Genesis Of Genius by Karl Ludvigsen
    It does seem weird that they would leave out the Nazi years, not because of the "zomg he worked for the Nazis" thing (since, as I understand, what he did for them was no different than what Chevy, Ford, et al did for the US war effort), but because it's another -- and very different -- phase of engineering for a very gifted engineer. Maybe he had things to say about the Fuhrer, but what about technical feats he might have pulled off for the war machine?
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    Image of bozoerrebbe bozoerrebbe
    10/04/09

    @gallahad: Porsche's relationship with the Nazi regime was a bit closer than that of American industry to the FDR administration and the war effort.

    To begin with, Porsche worked with Hitler as early as 1934, long before the war, when the engineer took the Nazi leader's commission to design the KDF-Wagen, what became known as the VW Beetle. The KDF program, ostensibly to provide German workers with automobiles, was really a Nazi scam, and few if any workers got the cars they'd paid for with paycheck deductions. I don't know exactly when Dr. Porsche got the idea that the VW platform would make a good utility vehicle for the Wehrmacht, but before many KDFWagens could be built, the factory was changed over to produce the Jeep-like Kubelwagen. During the war, Porsche designed other weapons, including the main battle tanks for the German army.

    Yes, Detroit was the arsenal of democracy and Chrysler built tanks, Ford built bombers (and jeeps), and GM ended up building the Saturn V if I'm not mistaken. But Dr. Porsche seemed a bit too eager to work with the Nazis for my tastes. YMMV

    Ironically, just as Ludvigsen's book on Dr. Porsche is released, so is Dutch engineer Paul Schilperoord's work Het Ware Verhaal van de Kever: hoe Hitler het ontwerp van een Joods genie confisqueerde, The True Story of the Beetle: how Hitler confiscated the design of a Jewish genius, about Josef Ganz, whose design for the Volkswagen may have been stolen by Hitler and used by Porsche.

    [www.ganz-volkswagen.org]

    Here's the 1934 Standard Superior, based on Ganz' design.
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    Image of gallahad gallahad
    10/05/09

    @bozoerrebbe: Huh. The more you know :)
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    08/21/09

    In reply to The Jalopnik Guide To Mid-Mounted Engine Faux Pas
    Personally, I think this whole thread is misguided... look at the expression on the lady's face - she's not thinking: "OMIGOD, where am I supposed to put this bag?", she's thinking: "No WONDER it wouldn't start... some idiot crammed a dead hooker in there, thinking it was the trunk - and in the process broke the feed lines to the #5 & #7 fuel injectors... those mechanically inept MORONS!" (and yes, that was two dead hooker references in one thread).

    And the 2nd pic is simply the result of the Lambo driver having brake-checked the bike messenger who was tailgating him a little too closely... the bike forks are wedged in the engine vent fins, and the Lambo owner just put those rails on there temporarily in order to position the bike upright for the photo he needed for the insurance claim.
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