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HammSammich
07/31/09

In reply to Senna, Fangio and Brabham: Three Drivers, Eleven World Titles
Great picture. Senna was an amazing driver, but it's hard to argue with the sheer insanity of Fangio, Brabham, or any other driver of the pre-downforce era. 27 drivers died in the 50's and 60's. This was the most dangerous sport in modern times, and these guys survived. Truly awe inspiring.
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Number_Six
07/31/09

@HammSammich: Absolutely. They were incredibly brave.
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domino
07/31/09

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i love Fangio!
Peter, thanks for the great photo and article.
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Peter Orosz
07/31/09

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Here’s Senna driving the then-new Honda NSX flat out in a pair of white socks.
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IronicalBalls
07/31/09

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When it comes to actual skill Senna is probably the most instinctive driver of our generation. From the era when turboed 1000bhp engines were linked with the analog controls and manual gearboxes. With one hand on the steering wheel with high Gs while changing gears. Yet his times in a car with 80s/90s aerodynamics is up there with the modern flappy paddle diffused Brawnified F1 cars.
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LionZoo
07/31/09

@IronicalBalls: I think the times have more to do with the rules than anything intrinsic with Senna. Don't get me wrong, he was a great driver, but there were others in his time that could match him. I feel his Latin personality and the way he died often gives him a free pass. While Schumacher's failings are continuously bandied about, the fact that Senna had quite a few controversial moves (Monaco 1985, Portugal 1988, Suzuka 1990) is rarely mentioned. The assertion that had he lived after Imola 1994 he would've blitzed Schumacher and taken the title I find is rather unfounded. In the history of F1, no driver has come back from a 30 point deficit to win the title and Hill's 1994 title challenge was helped greatly by the FIA, who disqualified Schumacher from 25% of the races (England, 2 race ban after England, and Belgium).

Having said that, Senna is one of F1's all time greatest drivers and possibly it's greatest instinctive driver ever, but he was simply that and not a god of racing as he is sometimes painted to be these days and he definitely had a ruthless edge to his racing.
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Number_Six
07/31/09

@LionZoo: Schumacher is better compared to Alain Prost: brains like a computer, with a hair less pure speed than Senna or Gilles Villeneuve. Schumacher and Prost shared outrageous levels of consistency and racecraft.
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LionZoo
07/31/09

@Number_Six: Schumacher is certainly quite different from Senna in terms of driving style, but they shared a win at all costs mentality, which Prost had some of as well. Senna and Schumacher might be the two most ruthless drivers in F1 history and while that caused incidents, it's also who they are. If you take that away from them, I don't think they'd be nearly as successful as the same desire that fuels them to race to the edge of acceptable racecraft, and maybe even beyond, is also the edge that drives them to search for every last hundredth of a second on and off the racetrack.
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scroggzilla raids again
07/31/09

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JM Fangio in his Alfa Romeo 156 at the 1951 Spanish GP
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07/31/09

@SCROGGS!!!: Fangio at the 55 Belgian GP in a Mercedes W196
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07/31/09

@SCROGGS!!!:
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07/31/09

@SCROGGS!!!: Fangio at the 57 French GP in a Maserati 250F.
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07/31/09

@SCROGGS!!!: Jack Brabham at the 59 French GP in a Cooper T51
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07/31/09

@SCROGGS!!!: Brabham at the 60 British GP in his Cooper T53
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07/31/09

@SCROGGS!!!: Sir Jack at the 66 German GP in a Brabham-Repco BT11
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Mobius
07/31/09

@SCROGGS!!!: Sweet pics. And just for the sake of doing something just because I can, here's Fangio's legacy.
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Mobius
07/31/09

@Mobius_1000_Club:
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domino
07/31/09

@SCROGGS!!!: thanks scroggs! :) a good start for a bad morning.
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brandegee
07/31/09

@SCROGGS!!!: That's gotta be a 158 but free pass b/c of that photo of Fangio at the French GP in the 250F. A no more sublime combo can be found.
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Six Flags Over Tomsk
07/29/09

In reply to Another One Bites the Dust: BMW to Quit F1 at End of Season
Dammit Carpocalypse, the last thing we need is something to make Max look sane!
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e30m3
07/29/09

In reply to Another One Bites the Dust: BMW to Quit F1 at End of Season
NOOOOOOO!!!!! Oh well at least I can route for USGPE
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Clown Shoe Pilot
07/29/09

@e30m3: Not really a need to route for them, there's really only one way around the circuit, and if a driver gets lost he can just wait for someone to come around and then just follow them.
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FЯeeMan
07/30/09

@Clown Shoe Pilot: You know, I just kind of siggered and skimmed past the typo. You, sir, have earned a hearty-clicky and a well deserved round of applause for making me laugh out loud at your well played overhand smash of a return.

I'll nominate you for COTD, too!
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domino
07/29/09

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*runs away crying*
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Maxichamp
07/29/09

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Damn, my man Heidfeld will never win his first race.
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Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
07/29/09

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It's going to be tough to match Brawn's performance this season. But I hope that someone steps up to try. Maybe this is ProDrive's turnkey operation, backed with BMW engines, which might also find their way into a few Aston's eventually.
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scroggzilla raids again
07/29/09

In reply to Another One Bites the Dust: BMW to Quit F1 at End of Season
Interestingly, Robert Kubica has expressed an interest in Rallying and recently purchased a WRC spec Skoda Fabia.
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Mobius
07/29/09

In reply to Another One Bites the Dust: BMW to Quit F1 at End of Season
I hope if Theissen does take over the team, he'd use his first name.

"It'sa-win! MarioGP!"

And here's hoping the rules don't outlaw the use of thrown turtles and oil slicks.
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Mobius
07/29/09

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"permanent backmarkers in the 2009 season, bringing up the rear with Force India and Toro Rosso."

My, my, what a horrible thing to say!

...about Force India.
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Jeb_Hoge
07/29/09

In reply to Another One Bites the Dust: BMW to Quit F1 at End of Season
When I originally read about this, I thought that they were pulling out immediately, not at season's end.
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f86sabre
07/29/09

In reply to Another One Bites the Dust: BMW to Quit F1 at End of Season
I'm hoping Peter Sauber can buy the team for pennies on the Euro and keep the outfit going. They were always one of my favorites as an independent. Sauber raced with class and a good deal of innovation.
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graveslids
07/29/09

@f86sabre: I hear Dave Richards has a line on a crapload of Arabian cash, a scrappy lil' British marque, and is looking for a way to play. That's glorious sweetness in my book, especially seeing as how the Max and Bernie show didn't want to let him play around in their sand box via the bid process.

Or, another poo-let in Bernie's knickers, The Ronster pulls a Ross and comes out of the woodworks with cash and drive.

Or, Piquet steps in again just to ensure that his son has a ride in a series that he does not belong in.

Truly the possibilities are wide open. There's a good amount of paper tigers out there looking for a berth on the grid, and the foolish faith to believe they can achive more than those who've gone before them.

Oh, OH! Throw Paul Stoddart somewhere in the mix if the budget constraints truly come into being.

All in all, BMW-Sauber is dead, Long live Sauber F1!
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