My girlfriend's dad was just recounting to me this past weekend the period in the early 80s in which he owned 7 Aspens and Volares, and had a total of about $1000 into the lot of them, and three running cars at any given time.
Ugly, shitty, forgettable cars. There's a reason that these don't show up at Barrett-Jackson commanding 6 figures (at least I hope they won't in the future).
It's a little pricey but I'd still buy it. Nice price.
T-top's like a Corvette? No, dude. T-top's like a Chrysler Cordoba. T-top's like a Mustang II (Boredom - zero).
My parents had a '78 Aspen wagon back then. 318, auto, woodgrain, roof rack, no 8-track, though. Quite the Brady-mobile. The car would stall constantly, even in the middle of a turn. At 16, I got to be quite skilled at restarting the car quickly while still maintaining control.
This '77 is sweet. PM yellow, t-tops (hell, yeah!), white disco interior, padded vinyl roof, 8-track.... its got it all!
If I had this car, I'd get dressed in my best Urban Cowboy clothes, drop in my Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, pick up my lady and head on over to Tony Roma's, then maybe catch a late showing of Annie Hall. Nice...
"Highly Optional" Well that says it right there. Does that mean it's metrosexual? Or by optional, do they mean, "it's ok as a second car, because in no way will the reliability allow you to use it as your primary transport"? Besides, that leather interior is WHITE!?! If I am going full on Ricardo Montalban era MOPAR, I want a dark reddish-brown Rich Corinthian Leather vibe. But that's just me. You could easily pump up the volume in the engine bay. No easy way to fix the handling on these though, they wallow like a pig. The torsion bar front end has to be replaced with aftermarket coil-overs just to get it to handle as well as your average Crown Vic.
@DoctorNine: The torsion bar front/ leaf spring rear suspension is actually quite capable. I could go into the physics behind the superiority of torsion bars over standard coil springs but that would be beyond the scope of this website.
It has T-Tops! That's worth $5,000 alone, according to the engineerd Fair Market Value (eFMV patent pending) calculator. Add on to it the fact that it's the same color as the Oldsmobile our very own Crazy Euro Car Guy wrote about and you get to a Nice Price. Nice Price, indeed.
Now, where did I hide that back-up bottle of brefass scotch?
T-Tops? Check PM Yellow paint? Check Sweet padded white vinyl top? Check 8-Track? Check Made the year I was born? Check Could cause you to spontaineously grow a mullet while listening to Foghat on the 8-track player? Check
@Sir BTLFED Der Lederhosen: We seem to have a fair number of 1977 Model Year Jalops commenting on this car. Must be some sort of time warp black hole thingamabob. I've been looking for a '77 MY car for my collection, too. The first vehicle I ever bought was a '77 GMC Suburban, and ever since I sold it my life has somehow felt a little empty.
Consider the many ways this car stinks: It has a nice, big motor - enough twist to do yeoman duty in a fullsize truck - but less power than in a ten-year old Subaru. It's named after a plant, which suggests immobility. It's thirty years old, which no matter how nice the car was to start, is getting long in the tooth. It looks fabulously good for its age, which strongly suggests the owner didn't really like it that much, not enough to actually get in and, you know, drive it.
And it has T-tops. KITT had T-tops, and I don't want to emulate that in any way, shape or form.
And the price is insane. I can get a five-year old Civic for that, why would I bother with the Volare clone?
I was born in 1977, and this is the second '77 MY NPOCP this week. It must be my year! While I voted full-on crack for the Monte Carlo, however, I gotta go Nice Price here. 8 track? vinyl roof AND T's? And a malaise-tastic 318, practically begging for a set of 360 heads, a barrel edelbrock setup and some nice dual exhausts? For under $6K total you'd have a decently-performing ride, stiffen up the suspension a bit and the handling wouldn't be too terrible. Man, I'd rock that. I'd rock that to work and back and down to the senior center for Bingo on Saturday night. I'd blast my American Grafitti 8-track the whole time. And I'm only 31.
A car like this does not belong in a town called "Plain"--and yes, dammit, I said "nice price"--where else are you going to get craziness like a padded vinyl roof + T-tops for 5 large? Only MoPar could give you a dreamboat like this.
Go dig out that 8 track tape box, glue on your 'stache, find your stash, get your boots+jeans+Who t-shirt and rock on!
Ass-pen describes the city in Colorado very well. I can't understand why anyone would go there when you can go to Whistler BC. Honestly, it was full of orange faced WAGs, not skiing, but sittng in Dolce & Gabana buying $20,000 tennis bracelets. If you want to ski/snowboard go to Whistler. While there is a Gucci "boutique" and the occasional WAG, it's pretty good, and in Canada, so double good.
First sensible thing Chrysler has done in this decade. Why would anyone make a Durago or a Tahoe or an Escalade into hybrids? It's as pointless as a fat guy trying to lose weight by going to McDonald's, orders a double quarter-pounder meal, super size it, then orders diet coke because he wants to lose weight.
@BMRFILE: Because there are still a few people who need body-on-frame SUVs? Also, I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the full-sized SUVs were just the starting point for the dual-mode hybrid bits - since they're higher margin vehicles, the tech would theoretically be paid off first.
this blows. with GM saying that their "full size" SUV will be lambda-based in the future, and chrysler pulling the plug, how far behind is ford?
and 5 years from now, if i want a vehicle that can do "heavy duty" work - like pull a big boat, or attach to a snow plow, etc, but actually has a closed passenger and cargo compartment, what do i buy? will i even have the choice of something like the chevy avalanche?
Hmmm This should be a no brainer.. The Lambda Lambda Lambda vehicles are just as big and portly / fullsize as the Tahoe / Burban brethen. In fact they are a coupla inches longer. But the styling, and trimmed lines make ya think.. smaller.
But as for as "heavy duty" work.. ya can buy a variety of Trucks like the SilveRam From Chevy. And the F-150, 250 etc etc. Ya can also get the 4dr versions with the cap.
The Avalanche had a modified platform to be a unit body (I think).
But the concept of driving a Tahoe or Burban when the majority of your uses dont occur enough to be doing it daily, there are just other vehicles, variations to drive.
But correction is needed because you, like the majority of the US has bought a vehicle far larger than they need. And for that the used market will be around for a while, until they are all crushed.. YAY!
Hmmm I am sensibility. If I actually could decide what everyone needed.. ya wouldnt have 1 person in a Caddy Burban or any of the fullsize SUVS.
If I decided.. ya wouldnt have the 4 copies of the Lambda Lambda Lambda vehicles running around masquerading as something smaller.. (which they arent.)
If I decided.. Ya wouldnt have people buying more than they could afford, putting it on leases with their home loans and getting caught anal reamed cause they cant afford the gas, cant trade it, and now.. they realize.. they are trapped and dont need it.
I wish I decided. ------------------- Apparently the average motorist cant..
And when gas prices go up or sensiblity kicks in, they themselves figure out that they dont need that heap of crap weighing 4500-6500lbs to do the majority of what they think they need it for.
A Standard F250 4dr with a cap can do just fine. Heck a F-150 with the 11,000 tow rating and the 4drs would be even better, than an Exploder or Expedition.
I just drove the Aspen hybrid on Sunday and I was thoroughly impressed. It was whisper-quiet, and the computer said I was averaging 22.6 mpg (pretty close to what I get in my '99 Galant).
It's a shame that it's going to die so soon. If I were in the market for a big SUV, it would be at the top of my list.
Hmmm I actually feel bad for you. You have a 99 Galant... and you put a Aspen HYBRID at the top of your list.
I cant for the life of me imagine why anyone besides the majority of empty headed, basket cases on the highway would want one.
I mean doesnt the idea of the vehicle's sheer weight, vs the option of "hemi"- in name only, paired with a battery to move this thing.. even slightly bother you?
Then again, I apologize cause you drive a Galant.
I feel bad for the workers that make them. I feel bad for the businesses that are close by that make money from the workers. Heck, I feel bad for anyone related to the Chrysler workers who is goign to have a drop off in sales.. cause someone in that OPERATIONALLY BANKRUPT shitbox of a company had the lame brained idea to put that overloaded, top heavy, obese, Piece Of Domestic Dog Shit, into a market that WAS THEN.. cratering.
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My girlfriend's dad was just recounting to me this past weekend the period in the early 80s in which he owned 7 Aspens and Volares, and had a total of about $1000 into the lot of them, and three running cars at any given time.
Ugly, shitty, forgettable cars. There's a reason that these don't show up at Barrett-Jackson commanding 6 figures (at least I hope they won't in the future).
06/04/09
T-top's like a Corvette? No, dude. T-top's like a Chrysler Cordoba. T-top's like a Mustang II (Boredom - zero).
My parents had a '78 Aspen wagon back then. 318, auto, woodgrain, roof rack, no 8-track, though. Quite the Brady-mobile. The car would stall constantly, even in the middle of a turn. At 16, I got to be quite skilled at restarting the car quickly while still maintaining control.
This '77 is sweet. PM yellow, t-tops (hell, yeah!), white disco interior, padded vinyl roof, 8-track.... its got it all!
If I had this car, I'd get dressed in my best Urban Cowboy clothes, drop in my Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, pick up my lady and head on over to Tony Roma's, then maybe catch a late showing of Annie Hall. Nice...
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So no. Tis crack, my fellow Jalopniks, crack.
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It has T-Tops! That's worth $5,000 alone, according to the engineerd Fair Market Value (eFMV patent pending) calculator. Add on to it the fact that it's the same color as the Oldsmobile our very own Crazy Euro Car Guy wrote about and you get to a Nice Price. Nice Price, indeed.
Now, where did I hide that back-up bottle of brefass scotch?
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T-Tops? Check
PM Yellow paint? Check
Sweet padded white vinyl top? Check
8-Track? Check
Made the year I was born? Check
Could cause you to spontaineously grow a mullet while listening to Foghat on the 8-track player? Check
You are correct. Nice price indeed.
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Consider the many ways this car stinks: It has a nice, big motor - enough twist to do yeoman duty in a fullsize truck - but less power than in a ten-year old Subaru. It's named after a plant, which suggests immobility. It's thirty years old, which no matter how nice the car was to start, is getting long in the tooth. It looks fabulously good for its age, which strongly suggests the owner didn't really like it that much, not enough to actually get in and, you know, drive it.
And it has T-tops. KITT had T-tops, and I don't want to emulate that in any way, shape or form.
And the price is insane. I can get a five-year old Civic for that, why would I bother with the Volare clone?
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Go dig out that 8 track tape box, glue on your 'stache, find your stash, get your boots+jeans+Who t-shirt and rock on!
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and 5 years from now, if i want a vehicle that can do "heavy duty" work - like pull a big boat, or attach to a snow plow, etc, but actually has a closed passenger and cargo compartment, what do i buy? will i even have the choice of something like the chevy avalanche?
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Hmmm
This should be a no brainer..
The Lambda Lambda Lambda vehicles are just as big and portly / fullsize as the Tahoe / Burban brethen. In fact they are a coupla inches longer. But the styling, and trimmed lines make ya think.. smaller.
But as for as "heavy duty" work.. ya can buy a variety of Trucks like the SilveRam From Chevy. And the F-150, 250 etc etc. Ya can also get the 4dr versions with the cap.
The Avalanche had a modified platform to be a unit body (I think).
But the concept of driving a Tahoe or Burban when the majority of your uses dont occur enough to be doing it daily, there are just other vehicles, variations to drive.
But correction is needed because you, like the majority of the US has bought a vehicle far larger than they need. And for that the used market will be around for a while, until they are all crushed.. YAY!
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Hmmm
I am sensibility.
If I actually could decide what everyone needed.. ya wouldnt have 1 person in a Caddy Burban or any of the fullsize SUVS.
If I decided.. ya wouldnt have the 4 copies of the Lambda Lambda Lambda vehicles running around masquerading as something smaller.. (which they arent.)
If I decided..
Ya wouldnt have people buying more than they could afford, putting it on leases with their home loans and getting caught anal reamed cause they cant afford the gas, cant trade it, and now.. they realize.. they are trapped and dont need it.
I wish I decided.
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Apparently the average motorist cant..
And when gas prices go up or sensiblity kicks in, they themselves figure out that they dont need that heap of crap weighing 4500-6500lbs to do the majority of what they think they need it for.
A Standard F250 4dr with a cap can do just fine. Heck a F-150 with the 11,000 tow rating and the 4drs would be even better, than an Exploder or Expedition.
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I'm serious.
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It's a shame that it's going to die so soon. If I were in the market for a big SUV, it would be at the top of my list.
10/29/08
Hmmm
I actually feel bad for you.
You have a 99 Galant... and you put a Aspen HYBRID at the top of your list.
I cant for the life of me imagine why anyone besides the majority of empty headed, basket cases on the highway would want one.
I mean doesnt the idea of the vehicle's sheer weight, vs the option of "hemi"- in name only, paired with a battery to move this thing.. even slightly bother you?
Then again, I apologize cause you drive a Galant.
I feel bad for the workers that make them.
I feel bad for the businesses that are close by that make money from the workers.
Heck, I feel bad for anyone related to the Chrysler workers who is goign to have a drop off in sales.. cause someone in that OPERATIONALLY BANKRUPT shitbox of a company had the lame brained idea to put that overloaded, top heavy, obese, Piece Of Domestic Dog Shit, into a market that WAS THEN.. cratering.
Poor bastards.
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Such an innovative styling element that went completely unnoticed. Tragic, really.