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Here we see the political infighting between the brands reaching a tipping point. Who cares what is good for the whole? Perhaps only the US Government. I can't believe I am writing this.
Germany doesn't want to give Opel money because they know it will end up in the USA. Europe has learned its lesson with the whole banking/lending crap that the US created.
@jbownsabmw: Yes, like any economist in Europe does.
We were all blinded by greed, but the core of the problem is the US.
And yes, European banks were starting to jump of the bridge, thankfully some didn't and Europe did learn a lesson here, that's why the US has lost their economic supremacy for good.
Opel would be a good fit, especially for BMW - niching in between Mini and the Rondel brand. Mercedes could also pick them up and use them as a stepping brand to the three-pointed star cars.
Of course this supposition does not bode well for Vauxhall.
@pauljones-Jo Schmo's saintly and opposite twin.: Yeah, but I think it would be different in Der Fadder Land as they most likely have more compatible corporate cultures. With Daimler/Chrysler, I think the Germans were appalled by the Americans attitudes toward product and practice.
I remember the first time I drove abroad. It was in an Opel Astra. Much better looking car than the US Cobalt. Also, the brakes work ok. I found this out when I realized not every road in Germany is the Autobahn.
To Germany, Opel may not be "system critical". It is GM Germany, not Mercedes, BMW or Porsche. This is tantamount to Toyota North America asking the US Government for a loan, isn't it?
I know Opel started as an independent company, but it has been GM since the '20s, so in reality it is more GM than independent.
Considering that Opel is at the heart of many of GM's good US products right now, I wonder how that will pan out on this side of the pond. Think they'll keep some co-development arrangements? I can't see it working any other way.
Despite the fact that many good Opel vehicles have been brought over here, those platforms were not generally developed by Opel itself, but rather by GM Corporate. They were just too slow to bring them over here.
I don't think that it will be a huge issue to GM from a product standpoint, and I would be surprised if Opel didn't continue to tap GM products and expertise for a while after "spinning off", just as Saab would.
On a side note, didn't RLJ mention that a lot of the reason behind this move was to qualify them for loans from foreign governments, and had less to do with actually becoming independent from GM?
Opel employs almost half of General Motors Europe's 55,600 workers. When you consider the entire industry around the operation, its failure would threaten close to half a million jobs.
If this is true, then it would strike me as being somewhat "system critical", no?
@pauljones-Jo Schmo's saintly and opposite twin.: In honor of your Hillary reference and Peter's tasteful photographic choice, I give you the funniest and possibly most disturbing magazine cover EVER! Please note: Scroggzilla happens to be a damned, dirty, un-American, liberal humanist.....with a sick, sick sense of humor.
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So you are blaming European banking practices on the US? If the US jumped off a bridge, would Europe follow?
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We were all blinded by greed, but the core of the problem is the US.
And yes, European banks were starting to jump of the bridge, thankfully some didn't and Europe did learn a lesson here, that's why the US has lost their economic supremacy for good.
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Of course this supposition does not bode well for Vauxhall.
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Mercedes could also pick them up and use them as a stepping brand to the three-pointed star cars.
And make Opel the next Chrysler?
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GM's been holding them together like Tito held Yugoslavia together...
And we know what happened to Yugoslavia in the '90s.
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I remember the first time I drove abroad. It was in an Opel Astra. Much better looking car than the US Cobalt. Also, the brakes work ok. I found this out when I realized not every road in Germany is the Autobahn.
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I know Opel started as an independent company, but it has been GM since the '20s, so in reality it is more GM than independent.
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Despite the fact that many good Opel vehicles have been brought over here, those platforms were not generally developed by Opel itself, but rather by GM Corporate. They were just too slow to bring them over here.
I don't think that it will be a huge issue to GM from a product standpoint, and I would be surprised if Opel didn't continue to tap GM products and expertise for a while after "spinning off", just as Saab would.
On a side note, didn't RLJ mention that a lot of the reason behind this move was to qualify them for loans from foreign governments, and had less to do with actually becoming independent from GM?
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In this case a picture is worth years of therapy and deep seeded shame.
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If this is true, then it would strike me as being somewhat "system critical", no?
BTW-that picture is downright scary.
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I dunno, I think he just wanted to see if their was any truth to those asian "little guy" rumors.
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I'll get you for this, Gadget!
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/googles girls and cups to quickly forget magazine image
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