Assembling the H2 is a relatively small part of AM General's business, and is unlikely to hurt the company significantly. This news is worse for the Hummer brand, and General Motors. While the "in" thing to do is rip on Hummers, the H2 is rather capable off road, and is a better on road vehicle than anything that could outshine it off road. It's a good only vehicle if you need to haul people and things on occasion, and enjoy the occasional off-road excursion. I'm not a huge fan of the H3, though. The mileage gains aren't on par with what you'd be giving up in capability (relative to the H2), but if that vehicle suits your needs, go for it. The H1 is the shit. You just can't try to fool yourself into believing that it is a practical vehicle. It's loud, uncomfortable, and sucks down fuel with very little utility. It's really best left relegated to "expensive off road toy".
It's really a shame that the entire brand has been vilified. Hopefully, when the brand is forced to fold, Jeep will be in a position to offer something more capable that that Commander for all around duty. Bring back the XJ, Jeep. You've lost your way.
I actually really like the H3T, but not so much the H3. It'll hold some people, and a dirtbike, and be reasonably capable off road. Plus, it will piss off hippy types.
@rlj676-Carbon Footprint Size - Clownshoe: Yes, the H3T is a perfect off-road vehicle. Factory front and rear lockers, great ground clearance, and excellent fording abilities.
@TampaRon: They get better gas mileage than the Infiniti QX56 and Nissan Armada, and I don't see anybody calling the owners of those douche bags. I happen to think most Prius owners are douche bags, but I don't go making a "FUPRIUS" website and lumping all Prius owners into the same category. I'm sure some are very nice. A lot of Hummer owners are involved in Red Cross operations, have very successful toy drives for children, and donate time at children's hospital taking kids for rides in the trucks (kid's love the trucks by the way). It's just plain wrong to lump all Hummer owners in the same group, you seem much better than that. Leave that kind of moronic across-the-board classifying to the liberals, they commit ignorant acts like that.
If you actually have to cross giant streams, and off-road, etc, AND want a warranty, there aren't too many options. I guess I won't let the enviro-nazi's tell me what's cool.
There are plenty of other vehicles that have less function that aren't as "uncool." I think there has to be some jealousy factor involved, as they are clearly not cheap. Also, the ownership by a considerable number of jerkoffs does not ruin the car completely to me, only the yellow ones. In the same way I don't dislike BMW's because they're alledgedly driven by "pricks".
@rlj676-Carbon Footprint Size - Clownshoe: Ha, that's what I've said since day one. If I can bring out that much anger from some random stranger, it's worth it to drive one.
@rlj676-Carbon Footprint Size - Clownshoe: If you HAVE to cross giant streams and off-road and whatnot, then you probably ought to find a different route to the grocery store, because enough of that is going to break your H2 as well.
If you WANT to do that stuff, there are plenty of vehicles available new (FJ Cruiser, Jeep, etc.) that are just as capable (if not more). Plus, you'd be better off buying an old Jeep for cheap, building it up, and forgetting about the warranty.
Listen, while it might not be your cup of tea, you guys have about as much of a right to bash the Hummer as I do the Prius....wait that argument doesn't work for some reason, needs more logic or something, what was I saying? Oh yes, bash away.
I still think it's kinda sad they didn't hybridize the H2 before anything else (eg Yukon/Tahoe). I thought it might be a nice about-face and nod to their critics if Hummer had reinvented itself as the brand of clean diesels and hybrids...which are simultaneously "green" and torquey for offroading, too. No brand equity lost, only the potential for gain.
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@Mad_Science: I reckon he meant the jacked-up 3/4 ton Tahoe (which is an unextended Suburban, after all). Certainly not the jacked-up off-roading Colorado wagon.
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It's really a shame that the entire brand has been vilified. Hopefully, when the brand is forced to fold, Jeep will be in a position to offer something more capable that that Commander for all around duty. Bring back the XJ, Jeep. You've lost your way.
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I'm with you, see my post above.
I actually really like the H3T, but not so much the H3. It'll hold some people, and a dirtbike, and be reasonably capable off road. Plus, it will piss off hippy types.
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If you actually have to cross giant streams, and off-road, etc, AND want a warranty, there aren't too many options. I guess I won't let the enviro-nazi's tell me what's cool.
There are plenty of other vehicles that have less function that aren't as "uncool." I think there has to be some jealousy factor involved, as they are clearly not cheap. Also, the ownership by a considerable number of jerkoffs does not ruin the car completely to me, only the yellow ones. In the same way I don't dislike BMW's because they're alledgedly driven by "pricks".
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Wow, way to ruin your argument with a stereotype.
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If you WANT to do that stuff, there are plenty of vehicles available new (FJ Cruiser, Jeep, etc.) that are just as capable (if not more). Plus, you'd be better off buying an old Jeep for cheap, building it up, and forgetting about the warranty.
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You see, I wanted to buy and H2
A HUMMER I think will complete me as a man
As for my carbon footprint, I don't give a damn
But now my heart's been broken as they've stopped making more
The ones on the dealers lots are old and dirty both of which I abhor
No, give me a fresh one that smells of plastic and oil
One that's just left the factory, built by hard labor's toil
I want it to gleam, not one mile have
I'll trade in my Prius, my milage I'll halve
I need one that hasn't been soiled by the rain
For I'm buying on Spec, it's money I'll gain
You see I believe that gas prices will drop
And then there I'll be with a Hummer, brand new, to shop
There won't be any quite as nice as is mine
And many a compensator will want one that's fine
Matt may think the Prius, with incentives is prudent
a way to make money, he's quite the econ student
But I know much better, I have an aim
For raking it in, when low gas prices are claimed
For no one expects that gas will be cheap
So I'm playing the odds, I should make a heap
When selling my HUMMER, of course I could be wrong
And if so I'll be selling another hummer, one with a dong
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Can't sell this!
doo, doodoodoo, doodoodoo, doodoo.
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Did I miss a meeting? I wasn't aware that war with China was in the immediate future plans...
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H1 was a lighter-duty HMMWV.
H2 is part Tahoe/Yukon with 3/4 ton running gear and a locking differential
H3 is parts-bin with 4:1 transfer case and locking diffs front and rear.
They're silly vehicles marketed to douchebags, but there was some actual engineering work put into making them better offroad.
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