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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    11/19/09

    In reply to REPORT: Mercedes To Build 911-Fighting Baby SLS AMG
    Mercedes to build Peugeot 205 GTi-fighting SCK AMG.

    Are they going to run out of rivals before they run out of 3-letter combinations? Will they ever make a decent manual transmission? Stay tuned, for the exciting next episode of the S-class vs the Wurld!
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/18/09

    In reply to REPORT: Mercedes To Build 911-Fighting Baby SLS AMG

    If it results in something like this little happy car, then I'm all up for it.
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    Image of stuntdriver stuntdriver
    11/18/09

    In reply to REPORT: Mercedes To Build 911-Fighting Baby SLS AMG

    the 2010 gullwing and the liitle ones..
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    Image of englishwhitetrash: is the Jalop proletariat englishwhitetrash: is the Jalop proletariat
    11/18/09

    In reply to REPORT: Mercedes To Build 911-Fighting Baby SLS AMG
    Right, I'm going to be lazy and repost what I wrote on the SLS story because I was way too late to that party and I just want some attention (sorry boss jalops, I think I need more caffeine):

    Hmm, I might be a little low on blood sugar but I can't help feeling incredibly unimpressed by the SLS (and now it's little brother).

    By rights any car with those performance credentials and looks should have me wanting to sell my own balls to own it. Yet here I am completely nonplussed by the thing, like a wave of "meh" just washed over me whilst looking at it.

    I'm not going to blame anyone in particular but I do think that this feeling I'm getting has a lot to do with just how cynical supercars (especially Mercs) have become of late. After seeing an SLR up close (ooh check me out) and having the pleasure of driving a previous generation AMG SL55 on a disused airstrip (again WOO go me!) I can't help but feel underwhelmed. I'm sure I'm not their target audience for this thing but then surely by the fact that there probably is a clearly defined target audience for this car I feel quite sad. A supercar shouldn't have to have a target audience, it should simply leap deep into your subconscious as soon as you see it and make you want it from the word go. The fact that this car didn't do just that has me worried, mainly because it isn't the first supercar to fail in that respect (Audi R8? Bentley Conti GT? McMerc? Dare I say Carrera GT?).
    That's not to say that all supercars suffer the same problem, just that more and more of them are no longer the extreme automobiles they used to be. By definition a supercar should surely be an excessive overstatement in impracticality/power/styling. An exercise in how a car can be uncompromisingly single minded about being "super" in one area or another.
    Granted there are cars that I still class as supercars that don't need to scream at me (Aston DBS) but at the very least they hint that they're more than just a handbag accessory (I'm looking at you Bentley!).
    As a life long gearhead I'm a bit depressed by some of it but I know there's still hope. With things like the Veyron, the (Nissan) GTR, the Corvette ZR1 and pretty much all of the Lambos I know there are people out there willing to go balls out with what's possible instead of sitting back and thinking "that'll do".

    I might be the only one thinking it but I just can't help thinking "Can't you just try a bit harder next time?"

    /Soapbox

    *Supercar fatigue, copyright J.D 2009...
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    11/19/09

    @englishwhitetrash: is the Jalop proletariat: I like the "supercar fatigue", hoping that becomes a new byword (old-speak for "meme").

    Supercar fatigue is usually only a risk during economic bubbles, but 500hp week can also be a factor.
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    Image of TwinTurbo Gokart TwinTurbo Gokart
    11/18/09

    In reply to REPORT: Mercedes To Build 911-Fighting Baby SLS AMG
    So basically we're going to have an overly expensive, 'slow' (relative) car that can't even light up its rear tires and just like all other Mercedes vehicles, isn't available with a transmission worth mentioning.

    One can get a hellofa lot more for a hellofa lot less.
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    OldeEnglishD promoted this comment TwinTurbo Gokart was starred TwinTurbo Gokart was unstarred
    Image of OldeEnglishD OldeEnglishD
    11/18/09

    @TwinTurbo Gokart: Hit the bullseye!
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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    11/18/09

    In reply to REPORT: Mercedes To Build 911-Fighting Baby SLS AMG
    SLS Crossfire!
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/18/09

    @weatherman: Those were my exact thoughts.
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    Image of Steve_in_NC Steve_in_NC
    11/18/09

    In reply to REPORT: Mercedes To Build 911-Fighting Baby SLS AMG
    good luck with that.
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    Image of ArtForge ArtForge
    11/05/09

    In reply to Mercedes SLS AMG: OCD Mega Gallery
    Quick! Someone guess how long it will take the Arabians to coat it in gold/silver/platinum/rhinestones/etc. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of layabout layabout
    11/05/09

    In reply to Mercedes SLS AMG: OCD Mega Gallery
    Needs less ugly..... #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/05/09

    In reply to Mercedes SLS AMG: OCD Mega Gallery
    The gullwings look like the classic SL. The rest of it looks like a '72 Stingray. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of area_educator area_educator
    11/05/09

    @Elhigh: The rest of it looks like a '72 Stingray.
    In that it has 4 wheels and a long hood? #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/05/09

    @area_educator: The whole profile just screams Stingray to me. Even the gill vents. That splash photo at the top in particular really does it for me - ignore the headlights and the grille and it really looks the part. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/05/09

    In reply to Mercedes SLS AMG: OCD Mega Gallery
    Why do they run the dyno (?) in the wind tunnel (other than to make the pic cooler)? #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of bacon117 bacon117
    11/05/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: The spinning wheels and other spinning bits change the dynamics of the air around them. In addition, wheels are usually designed to have some air pumping quality to cool the brakes. Wind testing with wheels not spinning is not 100% real world testing. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of mandwer mandwer
    11/05/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: Static wheels and tires produce much higher drag than rotating ones . #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/05/09

    @bacon117: Ah. Makes sense. Probably the engine behaves differently in moving air, I guess. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    11/05/09

    In reply to Mercedes SLS AMG: OCD Mega Gallery
    not nearly as big as the megan fox gallery... #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of bradyb bradyb
    11/05/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive

    Yeah but, it's just a german Corvette with gull wing doors and 500 more pounds.
    500 horse V8, torque tube, rear mounted tranny, ...all there. And the Vette comes with magnetic shocks and the Enzo's carbon brakes.

    I would rather have a ZR1, and an extra $100,000 for an airplane or something. #mercedesslsamg
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    11/05/09


    @bradyb: See the Zr1 has a nice aluminum/magnesium space frame too, carbon fiber body panels as well. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of quayzar quayzar
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    Yeah, I rather like that. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of skierpage skierpage
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2011 Mercedes SLS AMG: First Drive
    Looks more clown shoe than hairbrush to me. "Our best car has a really long nose" still isn't sexy talk, though last time they forced the issue by drawing a penis on the bonnet of the SLR.

    Good packaging this is not... "Does it have significant flaws, most glaringly from the gearbox? Totally.

    Direct simple writing this is not. Is it Wes rephrasing blunt criticism to make it sound less glaringly negative? Totally. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/04/09

    @skierpage: How is this not simple and direct? It's an impressive, fast car with a few problems that, in the end, don't detract all the much from the total package. #mercedesslsamg
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    Image of skierpage skierpage
    11/05/09

    @Wes Siler: Direct simple writing would be:
    "It is badly packaged. ... It has significant flaws, especially its gearbox."

    Thanks for the good review, honest feedback, and not bad writing. You just sounded as if you were trying to soften your criticisms with some wordplay. If you gonna write high-falutin', some people gonna notice. No worries. #mercedesslsamg
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