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    Ford To Unveil Rear Seat Belt Air Bag Tech

    From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety

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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/05/09

    In reply to Ford To Unveil Rear Seat Belt Air Bag Tech
    That chick is kind of cute. Giving me all the wrong ideas... #seatbelts
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/05/09

    In reply to Ford To Unveil Rear Seat Belt Air Bag Tech
    How effective are these things? What's the testing been like?

    I ask not to be a pain in the ass, it's a serious question. My car has driver and passenger airbags, the rear seat passengers have only my assurance that I'm very careful. My truck is even older - the only airbag in there is me.

    So can this be retrofitted? I'd like to build a retromodded Scout or something similar, but being able to add some safety equipment couldn't be a bad idea. Three-point belts would be a big step up from the old lap-only style, three-point plus airbags? The insurance demons would smile on me.

    I don't hate this idea. This is one of those things that can make an old car worth keeping. #seatbelts
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    Image of I was drivin' that Model A I was drivin' that Model A
    11/05/09

    In reply to Ford To Unveil Rear Seat Belt Air Bag Tech
    I saw video on CNBC this AM of this, and it repeated, oh, I dunno, a dozen times.

    I see the logic, but it's supposed to be for children, and a large percentage of these inflatable devices will have holes chewed/poked in them within three days.

    Should they ever inflate, the dried spit-up will accelerate to a speed so high, it'll leave a 22 cal-sized hole in the front passengers' skulls. #seatbelts
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    Image of jaymcminn jaymcminn
    11/05/09

    @I was drivin' that Model A: Dude, holes "chewed" in them? They're kids, not beavers. #seatbelts
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/05/09

    @jaymcminn: Some kids can really chew some holes in your argument.

    Little varmints. #seatbelts
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    Image of I was drivin' that Model A I was drivin' that Model A
    11/05/09

    @jaymcminn: Um, the door gaskets in my wife's 240D had mouth-shaped chunks missing because of the child which you'd have thought was feral.

    That child swore me off kids, though I didn't need much convincing. #seatbelts
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    Image of Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
    11/05/09

    In reply to Ford To Unveil Rear Seat Belt Air Bag Tech
    I think airbag tech peaked about 5 years ago, so from now on it's just a bunch of make-work stuff.

    We have to keep engineering stuff that will break or fail, otherwise post-warranty repair tickets will continue to be fewer and small.

    Yeah, I'm a cynic. #seatbelts
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    Image of I was drivin' that Model A I was drivin' that Model A
    11/05/09

    @Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master:

    Much like current consumer-level computer technology, they're just re-hashing what's already out there, trying to spin it as the next best thing.

    Um, a 386 will run basic 'Net browsing and e-mail just as well as a quad-core monster.

    /assumes lack of AOL #seatbelts
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    Image of outZider outZider
    11/05/09

    @I was drivin' that Model A: To be fair, a 386 will run "basic net browsing", but that implies that it will never visit any page more complicated than the Google start page at this point. Web browsing was painful on my 486DX4/100 when that was hot stuff. I can't imagine it's any better now. #seatbelts
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    I was drivin' that Model A promoted this comment outZider was starred outZider was unstarred
    Image of I was drivin' that Model A I was drivin' that Model A
    11/05/09

    @outZider:

    Agreed. I was being a little broad in my brush strokes, but turnabout is fair play.

    Web browsing was probably painful on a 486/100 when it was bitchin' equipment because you had, under non-existent ideal conditions, a 56kb connection. Could be wrong, though. Might have been on a corporate network. #seatbelts
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/05/09

    In reply to Ford To Unveil Rear Seat Belt Air Bag Tech
    Given the superior crash survivability for rear seat passengers, is this really a necessary place for research and production dollars?

    If everyone wore seatbelts properly the death and injury rates would plummet. In Europe, rear seat passengers are required to wear lap and safety belts at all times. #seatbelts
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    09/24/09

    In reply to From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety
    Safety glass in the 1930s. Though it's probably not important enough for this list, it's not trivial either. Getting into an accident in a pre-'30s closed car often caused jagged shards of plate glass to fly everywhere with very nasty results. Safety glass greatly reduced the slicing and dicing.
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    Image of bzr bzr
    09/24/09

    In reply to From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety
    Vince and Larry gave me nightmares as a kid. Interpret that how you will.
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    Image of TurboBrick [LIGIER] TurboBrick [LIGIER]
    09/24/09

    In reply to From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety

    Standardized roof strength tests? Do they stack Volvo 144's on top of other models too now?
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    snapoversteer should STFU because promoted this comment TurboBrick [LIGIER] was starred TurboBrick [LIGIER] was unstarred
    Image of Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II
    09/24/09

    In reply to From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety
    I have blind spot assist on my 2008 Aura. It works like this:
    1. put side of head against the glass to the left.
    2. adjust the driver side mirror so that the side of the car is barely visible on the inside edge of the mirror.
    3. Lean to the right so that head is in center of car.
    4. adjust passenger mirror so that the side of the car is barely visible on the inside edge of the mirror.
    5. If done correctly a vehicle entering a blind spot should be visible in the mirror immediately after leaving the rearview and should enter your field of vision as the tail of the vehicle is leaving the side mirror.
    6. Be a good driver without silly gizmos and pay attention to the road while checking mirrors at appropriate intervals. Occasional shoulder checks are recommended when changing lanes.
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    Edited by Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II at 09/24/09 1:30 PM Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II was starred Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II was unstarred
    Image of Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II
    09/24/09

    @Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets:
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/24/09

    @Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: Good thing the mirror can see, because it's impossible to see anything through the enormous C-pillar of a New Beetle.
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    Image of FЯeeMan FЯeeMan
    09/24/09

    @Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I agree 100%. Unfortunately, the average idiot driver adjust his/her side view mirrors so that I can see their face while I'm driving directly behind. Since they're not taught how to do it correctly*, I like the fact that a loud buzzer will go off in their car if they attempt to change lanes into me.

    *my driver's ed teacher yelled at me when I started adjusting the passenger side mirror so I could see. He had to have it adjusted so he could see behind, not me!
    Of course, he also yelled at me when my left foot hit the brake before my right. I just explained that I was expecting to find a clutch pedal there. I don't think he believed me. I'm not sure he knew what I was talking about.
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    09/24/09

    In reply to From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety
    The ad on this page as I'm reading it is for a motorcycle: the only vehicle that uses the rider's body as a safety cage around the fuel tank.

    How is it that the Suzuki Boulevard is still legal to sell, but the VW Thing is too dangerous?
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    09/24/09

    In reply to From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety
    Stuff like this is one of the main reasons I read Jalopnik. Makes me feel more intellectual and less ASBO.

    What about radial tires? Inboard fuel tanks?
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    09/24/09

    @snapoversteer should STFU because: brief history.

    between technology and politics, there's enough to write a book.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    09/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: If you write it, I will buy it.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    09/24/09

    @snapoversteer: based on the traffic on this post, you might be the only one.
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    09/25/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Which would make it a stunning success. To me.

    Get cracking.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    09/24/09

    In reply to From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety
    You want ABS? Get a big fat person.
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    09/24/09

    In reply to From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety
    Great piece, Ben.

    As a possible addition, and also maybe a question, isn't it now going to be mandatory that all cars produced after I think 2011 (or maybe its later) be fitted with some form of stability control?
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    09/24/09

    @ThreeLitre: What like springs?
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    09/24/09

    @mr_dude: I guess I should have used the phrase "computer-controlled active stability control system" instead.

    Essentially something like the GTR's stability/traction control system only much more simple. Basically something that keeps the car pointed in the right direction by actively applying the brakes on a given corner of the car (or applying throttle at a corner, like the GTR - although I suspect NTHSA wouldn't go for those versions so much).
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    09/24/09

    @ThreeLitre: Really, cars have stability control that uses braking? I can understand cutting engine power but changing the driver's spot on the traction circle seems dangerous.

    Also, all cars have moved to electronic control already?
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/24/09

    @ThreeLitre: As long as I can shut it off sometimes.
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    Image of Number_Six Number_Six
    09/24/09

    @mr_dude: Lithium or Prozac, maybe.
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    Image of skaycog skaycog
    09/24/09

    In reply to From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety
    We've come a long way, baby.
    Great write, Mr. Wojdyla!
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    09/24/09

    @skaycog: +1. This is one of the reasons why we like Jalopnik. Between the pics of all the half naked women, crashing, heckling, wooing, hating, loving, car proning, geekiness, surliness, banning, chauvinism, sarcasm, gawkeriness, camaro dragoning, Obamanation, bailouts, apocalysm, stariness, heart clicking, arguing..there are some brilliant articles which bring out some of the most important but obscure facts.

    As the my Brit boss at work says: Bloody marvelous!
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    Image of skaycog skaycog
    09/24/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver:
    Your comment is hysterical and so very true! I can't stop laughing!
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    09/24/09

    In reply to From Benz To Bumpers: A Brief History Of Auto Safety
    With #11 you can also say the TPMS systems came about because of legislation that was made because of the Exploder/Firestone fiasco.

    We just aren't smart enough to check tire pressures ourselves.
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