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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    12/08/09

    In reply to JD Power Customer Satisfaction Index: 12% Of Buyers Lost To Crappy Customer Service
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/08/09

    In reply to JD Power Customer Satisfaction Index: 12% Of Buyers Lost To Crappy Customer Service
    They live but to serve.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    12/08/09

    In reply to JD Power Customer Satisfaction Index: 12% Of Buyers Lost To Crappy Customer Service
    Car dealers suck?

    I don't, I'm excellent.

    Must be all the other tossers.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    12/08/09

    In reply to JD Power Customer Satisfaction Index: 12% Of Buyers Lost To Crappy Customer Service
    Poor Chrysler.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    12/08/09

    In reply to JD Power Customer Satisfaction Index: 12% Of Buyers Lost To Crappy Customer Service
    I've lost 12% of my brain cells thanks to JD's power.
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    Image of dolo54 blows minds and blows engines! dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
    12/07/09

    In reply to Crown Victoria Power Window Regulator Replacement #8, or: How Detroit Cuts Production Costs
    Whoa rivets? dude... I've had to repair the roller on the track in my car window, but thanks to it being japanese, never had to deal with crazy rivets. On a side note, can anyone direct me to a tutorial on how to align a car window properly? I've tried googling it and looked at the fsm for my car, but nothing really describes the process. I've got it pretty much good just through trial and error, but would love to hear what a dealer tech would do exactly.
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    12/07/09

    In reply to Crown Victoria Power Window Regulator Replacement #8, or: How Detroit Cuts Production Costs
    Thanks, Murilee! I've been putting this exact operation off in my '92 Town Car for about a month now, because I wasn't sure how involved it would be. BOTH front power windows are nonfunctional, and the passenger side slides down at about the rate of about a half-inch every 20 miles.

    And when I took the inner cover off, I DID have old rivets in the bottom of the door.
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    12/07/09

    In reply to Crown Victoria Power Window Regulator Replacement #8, or: How Detroit Cuts Production Costs
    My '97 Contour SE did that too after a few weeks of driving it over some cobblestones. It never did have a lot of suspension compliance. Fookin' aces going around corners but in a poorly maintained downtown environment, it shook fillings loose.
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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    12/07/09

    In reply to Crown Victoria Power Window Regulator Replacement #8, or: How Detroit Cuts Production Costs
    Not just the Fords. My boss's regulators have popped several times in his 325ix. Apparently it's a distinctive sound.
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    12/09/09

    @mytdawg: By "distinctive" you're referring to the horrible crunching noise that makes you think your door is enjoying a meal of glass shards?

    I had barely begun describing the problem to my local BMW mech when he smiled, reached behind his back, and pulled one off the top of a large stack. Apparently, he sees the problem a few times a day.
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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    07:41 AM

    @Wilson: Yeah, that's the one. He cringes every time he talks about it. I think he's lost 2 of the 4 so far.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    12/06/09

    In reply to Crown Victoria Power Window Regulator Replacement #8, or: How Detroit Cuts Production Costs
    I usually develop unreasonable emotional attachment to my vehicles, that requires extreme engineering if something breaks more than once. In the case of plastic bits which are woefully under-engineered, I have been known to make aluminum replacements. Or even construct completely alternative designs, which can be easily maintained. In the case of the hardware holding the plastic onto the inside of the door, I almost never re-use the clips. I will pony up for new ones if I can find them on the cheap, or if they are some obtuse design, I will redo the interior panel, to include inset screws.

    This very situation, is why I HATE electric windows. They fall into the same category as pneumatic suspensions as far as I am concerned.
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    Image of Jesda Jesda
    12/07/09

    @DoctorNine: I've never had a power window break, but I did have a manual window in a Nissan bind up. Had to use glue to keep the window shut. :(
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    12/07/09

    @Jesda: Ha!
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    12/06/09

    In reply to Crown Victoria Power Window Regulator Replacement #8, or: How Detroit Cuts Production Costs
    Wouldn't it be easier to swap out the entire door?
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    Image of LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard
    12/06/09

    In reply to Crown Victoria Power Window Regulator Replacement #8, or: How Detroit Cuts Production Costs
    What is it with Ford and dodgy power windows? An early 90's Falcon (Australian) has power windows that if not used often become stuck, then the motor strips it's nylon gears making the the window as useful as a solar powered torch
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    Image of skitter skitter
    12/06/09

    In reply to Crown Victoria Power Window Regulator Replacement #8, or: How Detroit Cuts Production Costs
    I've come to believe in the car repair buddy-system after a similar repair of a Honda rear-regulator by four arguing engineers (arguing engineers are happy engineers). Between all the cursing, straining, fishing for parts, searching for tools, and failed patch attempts leading up to the eventual fix, we had a wonderful time. And during the project, we were not yelled at for a record-breaking couple of hours.
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    12/06/09

    In reply to Crown Victoria Power Window Regulator Replacement #8, or: How Detroit Cuts Production Costs
    Interesting, the door locks, window regulator, and hood latch have not needed to be replaced on my '97 P71 (which my dad currently drives). I guess it's a matter of time. I'd rather deal with any of those than have to replace another cracked intake manifold.

    The regulator on my Focus broke last year. Nobody makes an aftermarket replacement, there was no way to fix it, and there aren't many in the junkyard, so I had to pony up the money to get one from Ford. Luckily I have a friend who works at a dealer and I get a discount. Unfortunately I accidentally overtightened the bolt that holds the glass into the regulator and I shattered the window all over my laptop which I was using to read instructions. The screen on the laptop still has several nicks and scratches because of it. I was able to get a cheap used window from an auto glass company and did it again.
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    12/06/09

    In reply to Crown Victoria Power Window Regulator Replacement #8, or: How Detroit Cuts Production Costs
    It makes GM's gear and lever regulator look really good. When a window fails to work, it's usually the motor, and seldom the regulator.

    However when the motor fails, the removal procedure is similar with punching out the rivets holding it in place and the motor is held to the regulator with rivets, as well.
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