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Novaload
03:55 PM

In reply to Indiana Ford Dealer Commits Suicide In Office
I was permanently scarred by "Fargo" so I see a plot. He didn't really commit suicide, it was a hit. Or the story of his failed attempt to fake-abduct his wife--because he couldn't get that tan Cierra the hitman wanted--is about to come out. Or the head office wanted those VIN numbers right away. #carpocalypsenow
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Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm
04:08 PM

@Novaload:
One too many customers wouldn't buy the tru-coat. They install it at the factory you know. #carpocalypsenow
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mytdawg
03:06 PM

In reply to Indiana Ford Dealer Commits Suicide In Office
As someone that has contemplated it about 340 of the last 365 days, allow me to speculate wildly.

Wife is hot, guy is a dork. Good chance wife's family has the money. Regardless a divorce won't be good for business so they keep it together for show. She spends her nights on the prowl for younger guys while he sleeps on the couch in the dealership because that's all he has left. But she finally found somebody she wants to settle down with and now he'll lose that too.

Just a wild ass guess...
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Silvrt01
03:09 PM

@mytdawg: Clearly you have "met Bill". #carpocalypsenow
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mytdawg
03:13 PM

@Silvrt01: I've been Bill, twice. I'm so burned out if there's ever another relationship it will have a time limit and be a straight cash transaction. #carpocalypsenow
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Ralph Wiley Is Poised
03:13 PM

@mytdawg: AFAIK, they have a bunch of kids together. #carpocalypsenow
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mytdawg
03:18 PM

@Ralph Wiley Is Poised: I did qualify that I was speculating wildly. Maybe he could no longer live with hiding that he was gay and got infected by some tranny hooker in Tijuana. You know you've seen too much drama when you start making up back stories. #carpocalypsenow
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GreenN_Gold
04:10 PM

@mytdawg: Infected by a tranny hooker? Are you suggesting he was a dirty Burd? #carpocalypsenow
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mytdawg
04:13 PM

@GreenN_Gold: Well played... #carpocalypsenow
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skaycog
02:46 PM

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This is so sad. I can't imagine anything being so terrible that you'd commit suicide. #carpocalypse
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OA 5599
03:02 PM

@skaycog: I had a friend who blew his brains out this summer. He was very well liked and respected, and his problems didn't seem any more severe than the average person's.

Some people can't see themselves they way other see them.

RIP #carpocalypsenow
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skaycog
03:24 PM

@OA 5599: I'm so sorry about your friend. I guess some people can't handle certain problems or situations in their lives. #carpocalypsenow
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mytdawg
03:58 PM

@skaycog: It's not so much the situations (speaking for myself) as it is the internal dialog. Everybody has that little voice that says you fucked up but most get over it. Some of us have little voices that won't stop telling us, in mind numbing detail, exactly how much we fucked up. It becomes an endless experience of humiliation. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. #carpocalypsenow
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skaycog
04:19 PM

@mytdawg: You said "but most get over it". I think that says it all, irregardless of what happened. I "got over" several things that might have been the undoing of somebody else in my shoes. Life is worth living! #carpocalypsenow
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Alfisted
02:43 PM

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Found
On
Rowe
Dead #carpocalypse
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GreenN_Gold
11:50 AM

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
I'll grant you that this significantly changes the stated ambition and direction of Chrysler's EV program, but it reads more like a merger of the two company's EV programs, rather than the death of the Chrysler EV program.

"Lou Rhodes, who was in charge of ENVI, continues to oversee electrical vehicle development for both companies." #chryslerenvi
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brandegee
11:28 AM

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
Desperation can breed good ideas. This Circuit, with the exception of the decidedly old-school red Viper taillights, is the best looking Dodge I've seen in a long time. #chryslerenvi
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günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
11:08 AM

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you've got to be kidding me, wes... first i lose all that money on my pre-ordered tesla... and now on this too?? i guess it's time to move the money tree to a larger pot... see if it'll grow a bit bigger.. #chryslerenvi
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YankBoffin
10:32 AM

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
Someone elses chassis + someone elses powertrain + Chrysler badges = How the hell would this have been profitable? There was no innovation here. It was cobbled together with existing technology that anyone could put together (and Tesla did it already). At the time it came out I was thinking it must be something to impress Congress to get the bail-out money. Now, I'm positive. #chryslerenvi
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zacarious
10:26 AM

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
Company is a joke - may I make an analogy.

Its like they are running a bakery with an easy bake oven. And the light bulb inside keeps burning out. And truth be told, even when the oven is working at its best and the bulb stays on -- whatever you bake in it is going to suck -- because its not a real oven. Its a piece of plastic shit with a dim light bulb.

This is not a real car company. What's the last mainstream platform they developed? The K car? Half-baked cars built with very dim light bulbs. #chryslerenvi
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Rabbi Dave
10:02 AM

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Well remember Chrysler had/has no car that gets better than 30 mpg highway, so with Fiat's new engines here in 2 years it should help fleet mileage as much as a low volume battery electric. There will still be a hybrid Ram 1500 next year though. #chryslerenvi
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weatherman
09:48 AM

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That's too bad because I really thought that the Jeep EV was a great idea that might actually have a market. #chryslerenvi
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makopolo
09:51 AM

@weatherman: I really hope you are kidding.... #chryslerenvi
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BaconSandwich and the generic grey civic of doom
10:04 AM

@makopolo: Why? Lots of torque in a very quiet package? Sounds pretty good to me. #chryslerenvi
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weatherman
10:36 AM

@BaconSandwich: exactly. For some reason some folks seem to have this idea that Jeeps are all about trashing the environment and crushing bunnies underfoot. But the outdoorsy people (the ones who actually camp, hike, fish and hunt) are actually the ones who care more about the quiet enjoyment of the environment than the ones who just want to look like they offroad. Jeep could do a lot to prevent an image failure like Hummer had by embracing (or returning to) the outdoorsman market. And if they can do it with a high-torque electric that would actually be more capable offroad, all the better.
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danio3834
10:42 AM

@weatherman: Right, but while you're doing all that in your electric Jeep, where do you plug it in? A cactus? #chryslerenvi
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makopolo
10:51 AM

@weatherman: sounds great, but where do I charge it when I go on that 400 mile trip to the wilderness? #chryslerenvi
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weatherman
10:52 AM

@danio3834 & makopolo: if you'd read about the program, you'd know that the Jeep was a gas/electric hyrbid with a (supposed) range of 400 miles on an 8 gallon tank, which is enough to travel the entire length of the Sierra Nevada range.
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zeet
01:28 PM

@weatherman: .. and if that still isn't enough, would it really be a Jeep without a Jerry can strapped to the back? #chryslerenvi
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skierpage
01:35 AM

In reply to NYT Encourages Demolition Of Detroit

The New York Times is reporting on New Geography's ideas. That talks about other kinds of urban renewal, you should read it sometime.

Ben, what's your bright idea to deal with the many areas of Detroit with only a few houses standing per block? Do you object to Flint's plan to demolish 6,000 abandoned houses? What happens next? #detroit
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Mobius
11/09/09

In reply to NYT Encourages Demolition Of Detroit
NYT at least should have considered popular opinion, I mean, we youngsters aren't gonna take a liking to their publication if Eminem ain't rappin' 'bout D-town no mo'.

Also, here's an idea, why don't you farm where there's actually, you know, land? #detroit
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theeastbaykid
11/09/09

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Nicely done piece. As a native Californian with lots of family in the Detroit area, I have a combination of perspectives--while Detroit is undeniably in a sad state, the idea of throwing it away and starting over is an amateurish ploy for attention. It's easy to have a condescending attitude toward a place if you've never really experienced it, which the NYT apparently hasn't. #detroit
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powermatic
11/09/09

In reply to NYT Encourages Demolition Of Detroit
I agree with you concerning the zero-viability equation of any full scale, corp0rate-level farming in reclaimed Urban Areas (I spent many a summer at my grandparents dairy farm) but, to be fair, two points should be made:

1-this is not a Times editorial, or even a Times reporter's idea-it's basically a link to an article in something called 'New Geography' [www.newgeography.com]
Even so, the term "failed city" is disparaging to those who live in Detroit, past and present, and should have been addressed.

2-reading that article, it's author reflects much more on urban gardening plots than any type
of large scale farming, and these vegetable gardens on vacant lots are common in any city. However, the article does contain a certain level of hippie/commune/Whole Earth Catalog-type aphorisms ("...open land, fertile soil, ample water, willing labor..." etc.) that seem like possible wishful thinking, though it does contain instances of people actually doing this stuff-in Detroit. Would be interesting for someone living there to ferret out these (supposed) urban "farmers" and get the straight scoop.

3. I recently read an article (L.A. Times I believe) about people who knock on doors in urban SoCal areas that have fruit trees in their yards, and set up a collective to share the produce that otherwise just goes to waste (how many lemons can one family use?) So, good stuff can happen if someone's willing to work at putting it into action. #detroit
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