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    Saab 92 Fitted With Modern Saab V6

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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    12/02/09

    In reply to Saab 92 Fitted With Modern Saab V6
    Amazing! It looks like great work, too.
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    Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp was starred Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp was unstarred
    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/02/09

    In reply to Saab 92 Fitted With Modern Saab V6
    The car really needs the turbo I-4 from a 900 or 9-3. Better power, less weight, and a manual transmission.

    Those cars have pretty durable drivetrains, so finding donors for the swap shouldn't be too tough.

    C'mon all you Jalops - swap an engine, get a free beer!
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    Image of SantaRita SantaRita
    12/02/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet:

    HEY! I totally said that but my posts aren't showing/approved often.

    it's an l81 GM V6 turbo good for 200HP and 220LBft.

    the 2.3L Turbo 4-cyl makes 5 more hp and 40more lb-ft with 30% better fuel economy.
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment Edited by SantaRita at 12/02/09 4:59 PM SantaRita was starred SantaRita was unstarred
    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/02/09

    @SantaRita: I didn't say you didn't - and I've been busy - so not reading so closely, nor all the comments.

    I try to promote all my pals when I come across their comments - including yours - but I haven't been having so much luck lately picking up all those hitch hikers with their thumbs out - something about the software, or something.

    The I-4 in Griffin/Aero dress makes a good deal more hp. There's a lag penalty, but it makes for a fun ride.
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    Image of SantaRita SantaRita
    12/02/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: no worries! it was nested deep in the comments already, and i had no idea you're a moderator!
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/02/09

    @SantaRita: I'm no moderate.

    But I see these glyphs, and I click on them, and sometimes something happens. I particularly like it when I do that and I get extra kibble.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/02/09

    In reply to Saab 92 Fitted With Modern Saab V6
    Split windshield and suicide doors, sign me up! Why is there only half a rear bumper in the first picture and a complete one in the last picture?
    I think it's wonderful, but it really shouldn't be an automatic. That, of course, should go without saying!
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/02/09

    In reply to Saab 92 Fitted With Modern Saab V6
    And here's the original concept: a 92 fitted with two of the original two-stroke 3-cyl engines.

    They called it "The Monster."
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    12/02/09

    @Elhigh: I would love to just listen to that run.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    12/02/09

    @Elhigh: makes me thing the straight six out of a KZ1300 would fit perfect in there.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/02/09

    In reply to Saab 92 Fitted With Modern Saab V6
    Malcolm McDowell approves.

    A 35hp Kohler is a step up from the original two-stroke, but you gotta admit the sound of the stocker is like nothing else. Just tooling down the road sounds like the Hounds o' Hell out for a spin.

    A 92 is a flyweight car, if it weighs more than a ton he's topped up the oil tank. That doesn't give the V6 much to do. Dad's 96 would hit 40mpg due to the modest weight and excellent aero characteristics - I'd be fascinated to know how well this does economy-wise.
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    Edited by Elhigh at 12/02/09 4:14 PM Elhigh was starred Elhigh was unstarred
    Image of skierpage skierpage
    12/02/09

    In reply to GM Says Interest In Saab Exists, Brand Not Dead Yet
    The Koenigseggsegeegeggg deal never felt real because it depended on three billion Swedish Kronor appearing from the tooth fairy troll. Koenigseahhtohellwithit was finally able to get $600 million of financing approved by the European Investment Bank, but the details of the financing didn't mesh with running a car company. Even if GM sells you Saab for 25 öre, you need hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and credit lines to operate a car company and its factories.

    The latest rumor seems to be "The Swedish newspaper Dagens Industri said today, citing unidentified informed sources that BAIC [Beijing Automotive Industry Holding] and Merbanco [a group of investors from Wyoming?] may make a joint bid for Saab." BAIC was going to invest in Koen..g after the Saab acquisition.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/01/09

    In reply to GM Says Interest In Saab Exists, Brand Not Dead Yet
    Come on guys! If we all pool our pocket change, I think it'll put us over the top. I've always wanted a company car... with flames on it.
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    Image of SerialThriller SerialThriller
    12/02/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: I've got $5.43 on me. Who's next?
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    12/01/09

    In reply to GM Says Interest In Saab Exists, Brand Not Dead Yet
    Lovely plumage on that Saab. I think it's pining for the fjords.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    12/01/09

    In reply to GM Says Interest In Saab Exists, Brand Not Dead Yet
    Does Wuliangye Yibin produce Aquavit?
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    12/01/09

    In reply to GM Says Interest In Saab Exists, Brand Not Dead Yet
    The board will considering offers until the end of December.

    Translation: The Board and the White House will be pissing on and jerking around any mythical buyers until Saab goes the way of Saturn.
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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    12/01/09

    In reply to GM Says Interest In Saab Exists, Brand Not Dead Yet
    I'll start the bidding at five....

    *checks wallet*

    ...Seven dollars!
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    Image of tcotrel tcotrel
    12/01/09

    @Scandinavian Flick: I bid $24.00.
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    12/01/09

    @tcotrel: I'll eat leftovers for dinner and bid $28.50.

    Oh, and can I set my own salary? $80K plus one drivable prototype per year.
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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    12/01/09

    @tcotrel:
    *takes out bank loan*

    $25.50!
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    12/01/09

    @Scandinavian Flick: Funny, internally we were wondering if Jalopnik could afford to buy Saab. We're pretty sure we could get a fat loan from Sweden, lop off a chunk of the dealers and lay plans for a new Sonnett based on the Toyotaburu.
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    Image of oddfish oddfish
    12/01/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Make nothing but 700hp Saab 99s and you have an investor right here.
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    Ben Wojdyla promoted this comment oddfish was starred oddfish was unstarred
    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    12/01/09

    @oddfish: While a 700HP Saab 99 would be nice, we had a Saab 92 with an STI motor slated for the 2013 model year.
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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    12/02/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: I like where your head's at, Ben. While you're at it, Saab will need a new logo. I humbly suggest a "throwback" approach, as seen on this photo of Saab rallying legend Eric Carlsson.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    12/02/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: Interesting note, it seems Eric preferred both FWD and automatic transmissions. Weird chap.
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    Ben Wojdyla was starred Ben Wojdyla was unstarred
    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    12/02/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: He also frequently rolled Saab's while rallying, earning the nickname "on the roof" and married Stirling Moss's sister, Pat.
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    08/28/09

    In reply to 2010 Saab 9-5: All Turbos, All Swedish
    Huh? Where's my twin supercharged V8 making 1000 horses in a family car?!?

    Good luck Saab, that is a cool looking car that has a very clean, simple, but sleek design, like an iPod.
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    08/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Saab 9-5: All Turbos, All Swedish
    Gorgeous. It has SAAB-like features, but is it's own car.
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    Image of Bret Bret
    08/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Saab 9-5: All Turbos, All Swedish
    This is a great looking car. As a current Saab owner, I look forward to the new direction things are taking with Koenigborkborkborksegg's control.
    I see 'night panel' is there, I wonder if they're still using the awesome Trionic engine management system?

    I can't wait for the SportCombi version.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    08/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Saab 9-5: All Turbos, All Swedish
    The engineerd Press Release Summarizer (ePRS patent on file) CRAY-like supercomputer got it's feelings hurt by the engineerd Fair Market Value (eFMV patent pending) WOPR-like computer. Some drama ensued, and the ePRS is back online. Here's what it had to say:

    Saab is a company conceived by dragons, born from jets, and then it entered the system and was a foster child of GM and now is, hopefully, being adopted by Koenigsegg. The adoption process is still continuing, but the influences of "the system" and it's new-found Swedish family are showing on the all-new 2010 9-5.

    First, signalling it's past, it is not quirky. In fact, while maintaining a European flair, it is pretty average looking. No matter how hard it may be trying, the scars of an abusive foster family are still there.

    Second, in a nod to its new family a series of engines are available, including some with decent power figures:

    *2.0L turbo I4 diesel engine making 160 hp.
    *2.0L turbo I4 gas engine making 220 hp.
    *2.8L turbo V6 gas engine making 300 hp.
    *1.6L turbo I4 gas engine making 180 hp.
    *2.0L BioPower E85 engine.

    In a nod to it's birth parents, all engines have turbines. Other aircraft-inspired appointments include a HUD, altimeter, and a host of electronic nannies and screens -- just like a real jet...sort of.
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