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☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig.
01/23/09

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Best idea ever. It would also be nice if Saab could crank out a few cars for those of us that don't have $40,000 to cough up.

My grandmother's 1979 Saab 900 had power NOTHING (not even power steering!) and yet, it's the best Saab I ever drove (although it would have been nicer with a 5-speed instead of a 4-speed).

I still say IKEA should buy Saab...they have enough money to buy Saab many times over, I'm sure. Of course, receiving your new Saab in 147 flat cartons and having to assemble it yourself with 32 different sizes of allen wrench isn't a happy prospect.
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wkiernan
01/23/09

@☠Grяrяrяrяrяrяrя is fresh out of weird screen names.: having to assemble it yourself

Oh, it couldn't be all that bad.

One night 32 years ago, I pulled the engine from my wonderful, wonderful '67 Monte Carlo ("a sports car with super performance," to quote the manual) all by myself in my parents's garage to fix the worn-out clutch. I replaced the clutch and bolted everything all together again, all the way up to the part where I was going to put the hood back on. That's when I noticed the circlip that holds on the throwout bearing lying on the floor of the garage.

The second time I pulled the engine that night it was even easier, as I had had recent practice.
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Elhigh
01/23/09

@wkiernan: Oh, I lol'ed for that. Oh, oh. And you just can't hate how compact and easy to maneuver that engine is, in that roomy engine bay.

Yes, for its time the MC was one helluva car. It gives up a lot on power to modern rides, but it gains it all back on style and function. If I had one right now, that'd be my daily driver. I loved that bassy exhaust note, and the crazy-great aerodynamics made the most of every horsepower.
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MushyHeirloom
01/22/09

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Please take Volvo with you.
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Elhigh
01/22/09

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Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

It's so much better when you go it alone.

I'm going to need some privacy, and some kleenex.
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Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
01/22/09

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Better they should leave 9-5 production at Opel - which is what the car is - and develop another model to make at Trollhatten. Like a real 9-2 fer instance, or a Sonett, or one of those great auto show concepts they're always showing that only seems to result in funkier headlights on other models....
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Deartháir II
01/22/09

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Good. Excellent. Now go a little bat-shit nuts, and give me a RWD or AWD sedan with a high-boosted four or six, as Saab should be, and I would seriously consider it. Basically, give it some soul and a bit of insanity, and you'll win me back. I've always had a soft spot for Saabs, but the GM Saabs just feel like rebadged Malibus to me.
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Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
01/22/09

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"GM because it wants rid of the brand"

Little heavy on the Bork this morning, huh?
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DoctorNine's D9 Cat
01/22/09

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(In my best Frank Zappa voice...)

"Some people, SOME PEOPLE, like Saabs exclusively.

But I for one, care less for them..."

Of course, you know this can only be viewed as a good thing.

Saabs have gotten all GM-ey.

They need to get more Saab-ey again.

I think we can all agree on this.
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pauljones
01/22/09

@DoctorNine:

I guess I just like the way that they look, at least in terms of the latest 9-3. And when I see the sketches for the next 9-5 supposedly due out in the next year, and I like it even more.

Looks aside, though, they have lost a lot of the character that made them such awesome little cars.
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A strolling player
01/22/09

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Seeb is ixplureeng breekeeng free-a frum GM. Thees vuoold incloode-a mufeeng zee mejureety ooff prudoocshun tu Trullhettun, a mufe-a becked by zee Svedeesh gufernment und zee Svedeesh Cheff. Zee noos cumes joost tvu veeks effter ve-a repurted GM's uneble-a tu feend a booyer fur its qoourky Svedeesh brund. But cumpuneees ere-a seeed tu be-a ixceeted ebuoot zee deel, GM becoose-a it vunts reed ooff zee brund es it mufes tooerds a mure-a sleemmed-doon, gufernment-suncshuned prudooct purtffuleeu und Seeb becoose-a itll feenelly be-a eble-a tu defelup its oovn noo prudoocts free-a ooff GM's bedge-a ingeeneering. Thuse-a noo prudoocts ere-a steell a veys ooffff, hooefer. Zee furst step tooerds independence-a vuoold see-a Seeb mufeeng prudoocshun ooff zee furthcumeeng 2010 Seeb 9-5 frum zee Oopel fectury in Roosselsheeem, Germuny tu its heedqooerters in Trullhettun. Vheele-a ixcesseefely ixpenseefe-a - reqooureeng $100 meelliun, sume-a ooff vheech vuoold cume-a frum zee Svedeesh Gufernment - zee mufe-a is seee es key tu reestebleeshing Seeb es a Svedeesh brund mede-a in Svedee. Zee Trullhettun feceelity is elsu coorrently oopereteeng et oonly eruoond helff its 170,000 cers-per-yeer cepeceety, su zee mufe-a vuoold be-a un icunumeec steemooloos fur zee Svedeesh icunumy. 9-3 Cunferteeble-a prudoocshun vuoold elsu retoorn tu Svedee frum Megna Steyr in Oostreea, boot zee upcumeeng Seeb 9-4X SOoF veell steell be-a prudooced in Mexeecu. A senseeble-a mufe-a geefee its US-beeesed seles. Su vhet? Yuoo're-a prubebly eskeeng yuoorselff. GM-besed Seeb's ere-a herdly zee stooffff ooff a reburn frum jets brund. Ve-a egree-a veet yuoo, boot a retoorn tu dumesteec oovnersheep und zee ebeelity tu cundooct its oovn R&D und deseegn footoore-a prudoocts leeke-a zee lung ooferdooe-a 9-3 replecement ere-a ixectly vhet zee brund needs. Vhezeer oor nut it cun speen un injecshun ooff cepeetul frum zee gufernment tugezeer veet a perteeelly reffreshed prudooct purtffuleeu tu soorfeefe-a lung inuoogh tu ectooelly defelup ell-noo prudoocts remeeens tu be-a seee. Bork Bork Bork!
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engineerd
01/22/09

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When in the Course of carmaker events it becomes necessary for one carmaker to dissolve the economic bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Cardom and of Cardom's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
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Joshuman
01/22/09

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My Dad used to have one of these. I suppose the new Saab won't produce another one but I was three years old and oh my how I love the smell of a two-stroke engine to this day.

It sounded like this:

and looked like this but in yellow:

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engineerd
01/22/09

@joshman: They should take the soundtrack from that video and put a speaker on the Prius that only plays that sound. Then maybe Andy wouldn't have been able to sneak up on Dwight.
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Cognitive Friction
01/22/09

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So what? You're probably asking yourself

[Stage whisper] I don't like this cat. He reads minds.
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brandegee
01/22/09

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Saab has always made weird cars. For too long they have been weird in the wrong way (overpriced badgineering). Now they can do these things:
Make the Sonett IV.
Make the Aero X.
Make a lightweight hatchback 900 with a longitudinal 2.0T and 6-speed.
Make a 2-door wagon.
Etc.
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Boosted Lego Wagon
01/22/09

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So turbo me and take the key
Put the ignition between the seats
Hoon me like you'll never let me go
'cause I'm born from a jet plane
Dont know when I'll be back again
Oh babe, I hate to go
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Jo Schmo
01/22/09

@boosted-lego-wagon: You're so money baby!
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Jo Schmo
01/22/09

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*starts working on his "bring back the 900's" petition
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Tanshanomi
01/22/09

@Jo Schmo *Now with more cholesterol: Can I add a "99 Turbo" rider to it?
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Jo Schmo
01/22/09

@Tanshanomi: good call, was wasn't thinkin far enough back
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jduffy13
01/22/09

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Just start making weird cars again.

Bloody GM ruins everything.

I'm waiting for some auto manufacturer to have an ignition switch in the headliner.
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1300ccsoffury
01/22/09

@jduffy13: "Andre Citroen, you have a call waiting for you on line 1..."
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