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Mobius
08/28/09

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Huh? Where's my twin supercharged V8 making 1000 horses in a family car?!?

Good luck Saab, that is a cool looking car that has a very clean, simple, but sleek design, like an iPod.
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Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
08/27/09

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Gorgeous. It has SAAB-like features, but is it's own car.
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Bret
08/27/09

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This is a great looking car. As a current Saab owner, I look forward to the new direction things are taking with Koenigborkborkborksegg's control.
I see 'night panel' is there, I wonder if they're still using the awesome Trionic engine management system?

I can't wait for the SportCombi version.
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engineerd
08/27/09

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The engineerd Press Release Summarizer (ePRS patent on file) CRAY-like supercomputer got it's feelings hurt by the engineerd Fair Market Value (eFMV patent pending) WOPR-like computer. Some drama ensued, and the ePRS is back online. Here's what it had to say:

Saab is a company conceived by dragons, born from jets, and then it entered the system and was a foster child of GM and now is, hopefully, being adopted by Koenigsegg. The adoption process is still continuing, but the influences of "the system" and it's new-found Swedish family are showing on the all-new 2010 9-5.

First, signalling it's past, it is not quirky. In fact, while maintaining a European flair, it is pretty average looking. No matter how hard it may be trying, the scars of an abusive foster family are still there.

Second, in a nod to its new family a series of engines are available, including some with decent power figures:

*2.0L turbo I4 diesel engine making 160 hp.
*2.0L turbo I4 gas engine making 220 hp.
*2.8L turbo V6 gas engine making 300 hp.
*1.6L turbo I4 gas engine making 180 hp.
*2.0L BioPower E85 engine.

In a nod to it's birth parents, all engines have turbines. Other aircraft-inspired appointments include a HUD, altimeter, and a host of electronic nannies and screens -- just like a real jet...sort of.
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brandegee
08/27/09

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Nothing here saying they'll actually sell this in the U.S.

If they do, I'll take mine with XWD, 2-liter turbo, and 6-spd manual. Unfortunately, I don't think the $10K rebates we're used to seeing from Saab will be in the offing.
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MushyHeirloom
08/27/09

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Throw in some of those fish and I'll take it.
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Graverobber
08/27/09

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That's not a Saab, it lacks the mid-body mudflap!
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elchimpo
08/27/09

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you guys should do a poll to find out if anyone has ever seen a saab with a working digital gauge cluster
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brandegee
08/27/09

@elchimpo: Good point. I do have a 9-yr-old one that works perfectly, though.
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Nickyboy - cruising the Autobahn and listening to the Scorpions
08/27/09

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I love Saabs and I really hope the company can survive, but I have a feeling they are a dag late and a Krona short.
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weatherman
08/27/09

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From the B-pillar back it looks very Cadillac to me. I'm a fan of Saab and all, but I tend to think of this as the end of the GM-inspired Saabs, and I'm looking forward to the stuff that is completely free of that influence in about 5 years.
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Wunno Sev
08/27/09

@weatherman: Given the history of the 9-5, you can expect a new, GM-free model in 2038, right after Unix time ends and the world collapses.
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weatherman
08/27/09

@Wunno Sev: you're right. I'm overly optimistic. Still it will be interesting to see what comes out of Koenigsaab...
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scroggzilla raids again
08/27/09

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When Saab goes back to putting the ignition switch in odd places, then, and only then, will I acknowledge that they've got their "BORK! BORK! BORK!" on.
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sos10
08/27/09

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I have to admit it looks much nicer than any recent Saab, t even looks more Saab and less Opel... but it still is an Opel and Koenigsegg influence on the design? Probably zero.
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mytdawg
08/27/09

@sos10: They could claim it puts the egg in Koenigsegg. Good marketing has nothing to do with truth.
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jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware
08/27/09

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300HP with a manual and many creature comforts sounds like a perfect daily driver.
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pauljones
08/27/09

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I like the exterior. I was hoping for something a little slinkier, a little curvier, but overall, I like it. I'm on the fence about that interior, though, particularly the dash. It still has that odd "the-entire-dash-looks-like-it's-one-big-..." thing going on, and I think that a sparing use of aluminum accents would have gone a long way to making the dash seem much classier.
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leavethegun-takethecannoli
08/27/09

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I'm holding out for the Saab Ikea edition. It involves getting lost in the dealership for an hour while you look for a salesman and then putting the car together yourself with a screwdriver that looks like it came from tetris. There is a positive side though- you get a complimentary glass of lingonberry juice.
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