Are those center locking wheels I see? On closer inspection it looks like they come with the ceramic brakes. I like that Porsche is making it harder to toss any old douche rims on there.
This is poor reporting - no offense - parroting the Porsche party line. To be clear, I like Porsches and in fact own one.
However, this engine represents - if it is actually as described - an overall downgrade, even though power is up and it has DI. The reason is that the old Porsche Turbo engine was different from, and superior to, the Carrera engine. It was based on the race motor from the Le Mans-winning 911 GT1 - true dry sump lubrication and some other features. If this just a boosted version of the Carrera mill, I'm underwhelmed.
It's nice and all - but it's still a downgrade.
By the way, one lap comparisons are meaningless. I'd be curious how many consecutive 7:xx laps the GTR or others could put in - I'm guessing not many, because the brakes would probably take a dump part-way through lap two.
A 911 will hum around that place all day. That's part of the reason why the M3, etc. have never QUITE been able to get there. Impressive over a 5 - 10 minutes span, but much beyond that and even a base Carrera just walks away...
@cgates1: The Gt3 3.6 was derived from the Gt1, and the new Gt3 3.8 is still the same engine architecture just bored out. I don't believe the turbo engine is Gt1 derived, and if it was, it would have probably followed the Gt3's development process and would still be Gt1 derived.
@Comrade Clockwork: The old Turbo is the same engine architecture as the GT3. It's very confusing, but I just re-checked. The new one might still be GT1-derived, but the Jalopnik report at least suggests that it's based on the Carrera.
You're probably right, by the way - it's probably still GT1-based, but the write-up here was confusing to me.
News Alert: During acceleration testing, Stud Beefpile's tongue was violently driven back and lodged in his throat. The Nissan GT-R emergency car was summoned and arrived on the scene in 6:27. Porsche disputes this version of the events.
Nissan emergency responders are now taking their sweet time extricating Mr. Beefpile's tongue, which from the glimpse we have seen, looks remarkably like a size 13 driving shoe.
Things that will put you behind the wheel of a new 997 Porsche:
A successful dental practice.
A fat trust fund.
Great tits.
Things that won't put you behind the wheel of a new 997 Porsche:
A love of fine performance cars.
The ability to recite every Porsche model, with horsepower ratings, since WW2.
Praying to the car gods (tried it).
Saw one leaving the medical complex next door to home. Mid-30s doctor with a lead foot. The exhaust note was like a leopard with extra aggression and anger. Then it just disappeared down Gibson Boulevard in an eye blink.
Another car nut struck dumb.
I know that in a couple years I know I will see one of these driving up the street in Santa Barbara with a wannabe Forever 21 model behind the wheel.
She will be driving about half the speed limit with the engine just barely above stalling.
At a stop light, she will wait a too long before making the right turn, almost hit a pedestrian in the crosswalk and then park in front of Starbucks. Dragging the rim along the curb.
After leaving, she will flip a U-turn from the curb without looking and almost hit a Mexican dude riding his bike on the wrong side of the road.
But she won't notice.
Then it will drive away, leaving me longingly gazing after.
@stinkycatfish: What do you mean in a couple of years? It's Fiesta right now. She's down there getting loaded with her model friends and then scraping the fenders against the column she parked next to in the garage.
I wish that wasn't a story of personal experience, but it was sadly true. I swear Porsches are so Bruce the metal actually screams in German. NEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNN!!!!!
@Markstre302: Oh, I know that there are cars out there being neglected and abused as badly as the trophy wives that drive them.
But this particular car isn't being sold yet.
Also, I am unfamiliar with something being "Bruce". What's that mean?
Dear Porsche,
I hate you. You think we're all a bunch of fools, you dangle this carrot expecting us to be distracted from the fact that you're pumping Panameras and Cayennes out the back door faster than drunk high schoolers when mom comes home early. You expect us to go on believing that you produce only high end sports cars that we will forever lust after. You take us for simpletons. And the worst part is you're absolutely right, it's effin' WORKING! We're completely blinded by by the variable turbine geometry, the direct injection, the 500hp, and the Doppelkupplungsgetriebe... Doppelkupplungsgetriebe? I can't even pronounce it, but I want one so bad I'm stuck dumb. You could be making minivans and pickup trucks, it wouldn't matter, as long as the carrot is still dangling there... just out of reach. Porsche, I hate you.
Sincerely,
TimTim
P.S. Can you send me a poster of that new 911 Turbo?
@TimTim wears black for our banned brethren: COTD?
As much as I agree... the Panameras, Cayennes, Cocksters, and Caymans are what keep them in the chips long enough to produce this delectable beast...
"Porsche isn't stupid." Well they should be. The smart thing would be to do "business as usual." The dumb thing would be to build something that would utterly humiliate Nissan's GTR and have new fresh styling.
or is it the other way around.
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Updated to compete with the Skyline, or to compete with the c6?
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However, this engine represents - if it is actually as described - an overall downgrade, even though power is up and it has DI. The reason is that the old Porsche Turbo engine was different from, and superior to, the Carrera engine. It was based on the race motor from the Le Mans-winning 911 GT1 - true dry sump lubrication and some other features. If this just a boosted version of the Carrera mill, I'm underwhelmed.
It's nice and all - but it's still a downgrade.
By the way, one lap comparisons are meaningless. I'd be curious how many consecutive 7:xx laps the GTR or others could put in - I'm guessing not many, because the brakes would probably take a dump part-way through lap two.
A 911 will hum around that place all day. That's part of the reason why the M3, etc. have never QUITE been able to get there. Impressive over a 5 - 10 minutes span, but much beyond that and even a base Carrera just walks away...
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You're probably right, by the way - it's probably still GT1-based, but the write-up here was confusing to me.
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Nissan emergency responders are now taking their sweet time extricating Mr. Beefpile's tongue, which from the glimpse we have seen, looks remarkably like a size 13 driving shoe.
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A successful dental practice.
A fat trust fund.
Great tits.
Things that won't put you behind the wheel of a new 997 Porsche:
A love of fine performance cars.
The ability to recite every Porsche model, with horsepower ratings, since WW2.
Praying to the car gods (tried it).
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Please release the Jalopnik 9 so that we can get the official press release from the Porsche Bunker.
Thanks,
vwMINIspeedster
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Another car nut struck dumb.
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She will be driving about half the speed limit with the engine just barely above stalling.
At a stop light, she will wait a too long before making the right turn, almost hit a pedestrian in the crosswalk and then park in front of Starbucks. Dragging the rim along the curb.
After leaving, she will flip a U-turn from the curb without looking and almost hit a Mexican dude riding his bike on the wrong side of the road.
But she won't notice.
Then it will drive away, leaving me longingly gazing after.
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I wish that wasn't a story of personal experience, but it was sadly true. I swear Porsches are so Bruce the metal actually screams in German. NEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNN!!!!!
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But this particular car isn't being sold yet.
Also, I am unfamiliar with something being "Bruce". What's that mean?
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1. [adj] Fine German Precision
2: [adj] Impressive in a forceful way /slang
etymology
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@skitter: That's a lot more understandable than what showed up on Urban Dictionary or this guy:
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I hate you. You think we're all a bunch of fools, you dangle this carrot expecting us to be distracted from the fact that you're pumping Panameras and Cayennes out the back door faster than drunk high schoolers when mom comes home early. You expect us to go on believing that you produce only high end sports cars that we will forever lust after. You take us for simpletons. And the worst part is you're absolutely right, it's effin' WORKING! We're completely blinded by by the variable turbine geometry, the direct injection, the 500hp, and the Doppelkupplungsgetriebe... Doppelkupplungsgetriebe? I can't even pronounce it, but I want one so bad I'm stuck dumb. You could be making minivans and pickup trucks, it wouldn't matter, as long as the carrot is still dangling there... just out of reach. Porsche, I hate you.
Sincerely,
TimTim
P.S. Can you send me a poster of that new 911 Turbo?
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As much as I agree... the Panameras, Cayennes, Cocksters, and Caymans are what keep them in the chips long enough to produce this delectable beast...
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With your name imaged on the plate.
[OMBUDSMAN'S NOTE: Noobs, watch TimTim. He does it right.]
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or is it the other way around.
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