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    2009 BMW 7-Series, ActiveHybrid Hit LA Show Floor

    2009 BMW 7-Series, Now With 400 HP Twin-Turbo V8

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, ActiveHybrid Hit LA Show Floor
    Douchebags like new BMWs.


    Douchebags also like luxo-hybrids. I mean, RX400h, amirite?


    Hey, it could work.

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    Image of Brimful of Ash on the 78 Brimful of Ash on the 78
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, ActiveHybrid Hit LA Show Floor
    See also: LS460h
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, ActiveHybrid Hit LA Show Floor
    Say hello to Leonardo DiCaprio's new ride!
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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, ActiveHybrid Hit LA Show Floor
    Is the target consumer for the 7 series really looking for a hybrid? Wouldn't it make more sense to stick it in a 3 series?


    Still good to see a step in a more economical direction. (Even if by principle I don't like most current hybrids, this one keeps the V8, so it passes in my book.)

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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    11/19/08

    @wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx: If you'll forgive what sounds like broad sweeping political generalizations and Republican talking points..


    Rich Hollywood Liberals + Premium Brand Hybrid = $SALE$

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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/19/08

    @wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx: Well, in places like London there are massive tax-breaks for big hybrids. This monster classes as a low emmissions vehile, so pays lower road tax and is exempt from the London congestion charge. In cities, which is where most of these end up, they make a whole bucket-o-sense.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, Now With 400 HP Twin-Turbo V8
    I visited my old BMW dealership yesterday and one of my mates showed me around the new 750i they have on display.


    And in my humble opinion as a Benz salesman...


    The 7 is the bollocks. It looks fantastic in the flesh. Much better than the photos. The proportions are great, especially those rear shoulders. The S-Class and A8 better be shitting themselves.


    But:- My dad would rather take that 4.4 twin turbo and put it in his E39 540i.....

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/19/08

    @Rust-MyEnemyEnjoysPleasure!!!!: The Bangle Bimmers actually look better and better the bigger they get. It's a design language that needs a big canvas to work properly.


    Still hate the headlights though.

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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/19/08

    @Deartháir: Headlights do look better in the flesh. But, yeah, could be a lot better. I'm with you.
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, Now With 400 HP Twin-Turbo V8
    So BMW needs two turbos to get 400 BHP out of 4.4 litres, and Ford is getting the same out of 4.6 with a single supercharger. Hmmm.
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    Image of Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing
    11/19/08

    @graverobber- My Yugo Nova!: But don't the two turbos kick in at different revs (and have differing inertial mass), giving the BMW flatter elevated boost across the entire rev range? I just seem to remember having read something about that justification for using TWO turbochargers.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/19/08

    @Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing: You nailed it. Basically, an asymmetrical twin-turbo setup or variable-dynamic turbo is the equivalent of a supercharger, without the supercharger's horsepower draw on the engine.


    That said, however, it is possible -- and fairly easy -- to get the same, or better, performance out of a supercharger. A decent supercharger setup gives quite a nice, flat torque curve. It's quite difficult to tell the difference between, say, a supercharged six and a naturally aspirated 8, just by looking at the HP/torque curves. The difference is in the engine wear. A supercharger -- and particularly an aggressive one -- works the engine harder to produce more power. I've got mine dialled up to around 15-16 lbs of boost, as opposed to the normal 7 or 8; the tradeoff is that I'll need some major maintenance after about 70,000 kms, rather than about 120,000.

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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, Now With 400 HP Twin-Turbo V8
    I CAN HAS TURBO 7-SERIEZ?
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, Now With 400 HP Twin-Turbo V8
    It's getting better, and with one exception, it's quite nice. But the headlights absolutely have to go. HAVE TO, do you hear me, BMW?


    The design trait of a BMW, with the exception of the 2002 and M1, is the quad-round headlights on either side of a double-kidney grille. Those look like great big Generic-brand headlights with angel-eyes in them.


    Throw them away, redesign, put proper fucking quad-rounds on it. MUST TRY HARDER. F+.

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    Image of j6r j6r
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, Now With 400 HP Twin-Turbo V8
    I think Jaguar would do well to start buying engines from BMW. Although maybe they will have something comparable soon.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    11/19/08

    @j6r: Actually, it puts me in mind of the last generation of V12 Jags in looks somehow. Although I can't put my finger on why exactly.
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    Image of Brimful of Ash on the 78 Brimful of Ash on the 78
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, Now With 400 HP Twin-Turbo V8
    Looks like they're de-Banglizing it in favor of Audi cues.
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    Image of Boosted Lego Wagon Boosted Lego Wagon
    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, Now With 400 HP Twin-Turbo V8
    Fitting the 7-series' engine with a turbocharger is great, but I wish they hadn't fitted its depreciation with warp drive.
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    11/19/08

    In reply to 2009 BMW 7-Series, Now With 400 HP Twin-Turbo V8
    If only they could make it look as elegant as the E38.
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