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    Image of LuciferV8 LuciferV8
    11/19/09

    In reply to REPORT: Ferrari Planning Hardcore 599 GTO
    Hmmm....this or the LF-A....
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    11/19/09

    @LuciferV8: I think this was made with more love...but only because Lexus engineers are engineered.

    Still, for Ferrari, super-performance cars are par for the course. The LFA is so strange and so much work went into it that one is indeed left with a hard choice...if one cannot afford both, that is.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    In reply to REPORT: Ferrari Planning Hardcore 599 GTO
    What's the difference between Special Edition and Limited Edition? Inquiring minds want to know.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/19/09

    @skaycog.2000: One is special, whereas the other is limited.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    @paulajones: Thanks so much for explaining that. I thought that might be the difference, but I wasn't sure. With the vast knowledge of all you commenters, I knew I'd get the answer.

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
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    Image of PowerTryp, Starless wonder. PowerTryp, Starless wonder.
    11/19/09

    @skaycog.2000: I'm drowning in sarcasm here.

    *choaking, gurgling.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Who, me? Surely not. ;)
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    11/19/09

    @skaycog.2000: Your little winky face seems so sincere, I trust you.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: You can trust me, little boy. Do you want some candy?
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    11/19/09

    @skaycog.2000: OOOOH Please nice lady?
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Since you said please.....what kind of candy do you like? I have a Special Candy and a Limited Candy.
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    11/19/09


    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.:
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/19/09

    @skaycog.2000: Do you have special brownies?
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    @mr_dude: You're too 'much'.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    @paulajones: I have special brownies, but they are limited.
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    Image of benmlee benmlee
    11/19/09

    @skaycog.2000:
    Special: Takes a special person to pay that much for it.
    Limited: People with limited endowment wants it.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    08:54 AM

    @benmlee: Oh, yeah! That's a good explanation!
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    11/19/09

    In reply to REPORT: Ferrari Planning Hardcore 599 GTO
    Is that the Intimidator edition?
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    11/19/09

    @mr_dude: That's how many days before the first nouveau-riche Eastern European plows one into a retaining wall.
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    11/19/09

    @AmishJohn: Damn nouveau-riche, I so prefer old money!

    I guess you're right, but the font is an Earnhardt 3, the font!
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    Image of tenbeers tenbeers
    11/05/09

    In reply to Ferrari 599 China Auctioned Off For $1.8 Million
    Schumacher looks like Parker Lewis in that photo.

    /and now you'll have that theme song stuck in your head all morning #ferrari
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/04/09

    In reply to Ferrari 599 China Auctioned Off For $1.8 Million
    It's inevitable, so I'll just come out and say it. "crack"pipe. #ferrari
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    11/04/09

    In reply to Ferrari 599 China Auctioned Off For $1.8 Million
    Presenter in middle: "And here, on my left, we have an example of how not to dress.- regardless of how much money you have."

    Presenter: "Moving along, next up for auction is Taste & Sophistication...do we have any bidders?" #ferrari
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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    11/04/09

    In reply to Ferrari 599 China Auctioned Off For $1.8 Million
    Too bad it wasn't a Lamborghini. Then it could be a bull in a China shop.

    www.instantrimshot.com #ferrari
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    11/04/09

    In reply to Ferrari 599 China Auctioned Off For $1.8 Million
    Oh- so it's a profit scheme.

    Now I get it.

    Well boy- that sure does take the pressure off. #ferrari
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    Image of Armand Armand
    05/07/09

    In reply to How The Stile Bertone Mantide Got Angular Rear Wheelarches
    I've been hanging around with a lot of Alfa enthusiasts lately, and looking at old Alfas is a good way to understand the whole Pininfarina/Bertone divide. Look at a Duetto (boat-tail) Alfa Spider, designed by Battista Pininfarina. It's all convex curves, except for the concave section halfway up the side-- cut off the windshield and it'd look a bit like a wheeled torpedo. Then look at a "step-nose" Giulia GTV, designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro, who might disagree with Peter's assertion that Gandini was the most influential designer at Bertone. It's curvaceous too, but it's much more muscular and aggressive. The two cars are both recognizably "Alfa-ish," but they're completely different from a stylistic perspective. This is awfully surprising, considering they're basically the same car under the skin. Luckily, we don't have to choose just one.
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    Image of Feny Feny
    05/07/09

    In reply to How The Stile Bertone Mantide Got Angular Rear Wheelarches
    I loved that Quattroporte! My uncle had that Quattroporte in dark blue with a beige interior - it was gorgeous. I was surprised to see a Viennese license plate on the car that seems to be parked in the czech republic. Then again it's not particularly far to drive ;)
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    Image of Peter Orosz Peter Orosz
    05/08/09

    @Feny: It's actually Budapest, Hungary, and in that Quattroporte, it would take little more than an hour from Vienna.
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    05/07/09

    In reply to How The Stile Bertone Mantide Got Angular Rear Wheelarches
    Bravo, Peter.
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    Image of Mr_Sives_Remotoc Mr_Sives_Remotoc
    05/07/09

    In reply to How The Stile Bertone Mantide Got Angular Rear Wheelarches
    Great article as always, it's a pleasure to read you Peter!

    I don't know when Marcello first used the "Angular Rear Wheelarch", but if we look at the '70 Lancia Stratos Zero concept, which was unveiled 1 year before the Countach, we can see a kind of.

    Regarding the use of this feature on the Mantide...I always considered this feature as Gandini's signature more than Bertone's signature, because Marcello used it during his years at Bertone of course, but also later, as an independent designer (Quattroporte, Diablo, CiZeta V16T, etc.).

    I mean, it's historically correct that today we have Bertone's cars featuring "Angular Rear Wheelarches", but in my opinion, being Marcello a famous designer, and being still alive and active, I wouldn't have used (stolen?) his signature as a sign of respect for one of the best car designers ever. What do you think about?
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    Image of Peter Orosz Peter Orosz
    05/12/09

    @Mr_Sives_Remotoc: I don't think it's stealing at all. In fact, I take it as a sign of respect for the man who held Castriota's chair.
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    05/07/09

    In reply to How The Stile Bertone Mantide Got Angular Rear Wheelarches
    Another Bertone:



    Sorry.

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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/07/09

    In reply to How The Stile Bertone Mantide Got Angular Rear Wheelarches
    Once again, superb prose, Mr. Orosz. Although the Pininfarina/Bertone analogy, which would've been apt 10 years ago, is no longer valid as Pininfarina's design these days have been a mixed bag. Their designs are no longer graceful (perhaps with the exception of the GranTurismo) and they are adorned with fuctional ugliness/ugly functionality without the critical sense of timeless beauty. Ironically, Jason Castriota and Ken Okuyama were instrumental in this.


    And I must lament the fact that you would associate the Mantide with the Countach. Mr. Castriota no doubt has more Bertone in him than Pininfarina, but other than the fact that both are extreme interpretation of car design, I see no real connection.


    The eccentric wheel arches are a Gandini (my all time hero, even more than Fioravanti, or Giugiaro) trademark, and the Mantide's just seems like a poor copy made from a cellphone picture, or rather a errant style addition to the mess that is the Mantide.

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    Image of drewdrawshashtags drewdrawshashtags
    05/07/09

    In reply to How The Stile Bertone Mantide Got Angular Rear Wheelarches
    I think the LP500's wheel arches are an evolution of the design for the Lancia Stratos concept from 1970. In fact, I think Marcello pulled as much of that as he could into the Lambo.


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