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    Image of RachelSklar RachelSklar
    11/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    Isn't a live rear axle kind of an Achilles heel for lesser-performance Mustangs?
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/20/09

    @RachelSklar: It's one of those things that everyone talks about, but it doesn't manifest any physical limitations, it just adds character.
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    Image of RachelSklar RachelSklar
    11/21/09

    @Wes Siler: Oh. I was just saying words there, btw.
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    Image of not_a_virus.exe.vbs not_a_virus.exe.vbs
    11/20/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    Not to be morbid, but when 'ol Shelby goes to the great racetrack in the sky, what will happen to Shelby cars? I like the GT500 strictly for performance sake, I could care less about it being a collectible or worth money in the future. When you buy a car, your first priority should not be to make money down the line. I really doubt these cars will be worth so much in the future because of the name. The older cars, yes, not the newer ones.
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    Image of Earl_of_Gumout Earl_of_Gumout
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    After driving a new Camaro as a rental, I need to go look at a Mustang. Theres hardly any headroom in a Camaro. It makes me feel, well, like I am ducking my head while driving. And this is from a Corvette owner. Maybe it's because I have a clear roof in the Corvette?
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/20/09

    @Earl_of_Gumout: Nah, the Camaro's claustrophobic, try the 'stang, it's the better car.
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    Image of baldheadeddork baldheadeddork
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    Three stars for value because the $32K GT Track Pack is almost as much fun to drive? Okay, I really like that spec of the GT, too, and if it were mah own money that's the way I'd go.

    But how could you ignore measuring the value of the Shelby in the other direction? Specifically, how does this $50K/540hp Shelby stack up value-wise against the $100K/620hp ZR1? Is it a three-star value in that light, too?
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    Wes Siler promoted this comment baldheadeddork was starred baldheadeddork was unstarred
    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/20/09

    @baldheadeddork: Drawing a comparison between this and the best car ever made would no end well for the Shelby.
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    Image of baldheadeddork baldheadeddork
    11/20/09

    @Wes Siler: Fair enough, but what about against the $75K Z06, which is closer in power (505 vs 540) and also shares the less-than-wonderful interior of the lesser models? Or dollar-for-dollar, the Shelby against a base Corvette?

    I'm not bringing these up because I'm trying to stoke the Chevy-Ford flame wars, but this is an honest 500hp car with better handling than any Mustang should ever have, for less than $50K. If this is three stars, what the hell does someone have to do to get four?
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/20/09

    @baldheadeddork: It is being compared against the Corvette.
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    Image of SerialThriller SerialThriller
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    Regarding the non-telescoping wheel, my biggest complaint against Mustangs has always been the poor ergonomics for me. At 6'3" I have the same problem Wes described, that to get the seat positioned right I end up extending my arms to reach the steering wheel more than in other cars. And on that same note, I have to reach for the shifter rather than it being in a more natural location.
    Not to ignite the whole Ford vs Chevy thing (seriously, I like Mustangs), but I never had a fitment problem in a Camaro.
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    Image of Carplanetzone1 Carplanetzone1
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    Wes, how old are you, that you still can't grow a five 'o clock shadow? ;D
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    Wes Siler promoted this comment Carplanetzone1 was starred Carplanetzone1 was unstarred
    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/19/09

    @Carplanetzone1: 28 :'(
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    Image of Carplanetzone1 Carplanetzone1
    11/19/09

    @Wes Siler: Awh... it's okay buddy. There's always rogaine... dunno about applying it to your face though. ;D
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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/20/09

    @Wes Siler: you are 28 and do this stuff for a living?

    I am 27 in school and have done nothing for a living...something went wrong.
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/20/09

    @FrankGrimes: Yes, but the deal with the devil was I had to choose: facial hair or cars...
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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/20/09

    @Wes Siler: Can you put me in contact with Mr. Devil. I hate shaving.

    #tips
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    Image of BigHarv BigHarv
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    A car reviewer actually mentioning that you shouldn't use even a hand's free phone in a car? It's a bold new day.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/19/09

    @BigHarv: If it's anything like the last GT500, the noise in the cabin should be enough to convince you not to answer the phone.
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    Image of v250gto v250gto
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    so you turned the stability control off (you did right?), it handled like a pig, and then you turned it back on, and it was ok?

    sounds perfectly sorted to me

    kinda like an abs-pseudo-limited slip
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    Wes Siler promoted this comment v250gto was starred v250gto was unstarred
    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/19/09

    @v250gto: Of course, and I've driven the car on a track too. It's faster with stability on and traction off; you can use the power and it understeers less. With everything off you just end up understeering initially, then sliding all over the place. It's not uncontrollable, but it's not fast either.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/19/09

    @Wes Siler: Tell us more about your inseam!
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    Image of v250gto v250gto
    11/19/09

    @Wes Siler: Have computer controlled driving aids improved so dramatically in recent years, or are there now more cases in which they are used to as a cheap fix for dynamic shortcomings?
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/19/09

    @v250gto: The horsepower wars have kinda ruined cars in that we now have a plethora of vehicles that weigh 4,000lbs+ have super wide tires and wouldn't do anything but spin once the limits of that traction is broken. Hence the need for all these crazy stability control systems.

    Cars are faster than ever, yet harder to drive on the limit than ever.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    If it were priced relatively to the price of, say, a '68 GT500. I might be interested.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500

    I still don't like the grouper-mouth grille on the Shelby. Does it really need the massive front openings and the bulked-up hood? Also, any true Shelby Mustang (at least after '66) should have wide taillights.
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    Image of not_a_virus.exe.vbs not_a_virus.exe.vbs
    11/20/09

    @tonyola: I love the grill on the Shelby, I wish the regular GT would get it as well.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    Oooooh, aaaaah! If I can't have a Ford GT, I'll have this. Well, I can't have a Ford GT, and I can't have this. But I can dream.
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    Image of OA 5599 OA 5599
    11/19/09

    @skaycog.2000: It seems like a lot of Ford GT owners tend to buy these cars then total them before the first payment comes due.

    It might be expensive to get insurance after this, though, so it's a stunt you might only be able to pull off once. But you could have loads of fun for 29 days...
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/19/09


    @skaycog.2000: Why not dream of both? I do.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    @OA 5599: Fun for 29 days....that sounds like a plan.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/19/09

    @FTGDWolverineEdition'09: You are something else. You have made my heart race two days in a row. Thank you!
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    Image of dal20402 dal20402
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    What's your problem with MyColor? Sure, it's not an earth-shattering feature, but I've wanted to change the dash light coloring at least a bit on every car I've ever owned except my 2004 Acura TSX.
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    Wes Siler promoted this comment dal20402 was starred dal20402 was unstarred
    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/19/09

    @dal20402: just use white numbers on a black background and red lighting. Job done. Anything else is just added cost and complication that would be better spent elsewhere.
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    Image of The_Red_Monkey The_Red_Monkey
    11/19/09

    @Wes Siler: Personally I do not prefer the red lighting.
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/19/09

    @The_Red_Monkey: Your nightvision does.
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    Image of dal20402 dal20402
    11/19/09

    @Wes Siler: The red lighting is one of my few complaints about my current car. It looks angry and in-your-face at night. I'd rather have a nice neutral white or even light green, and I would have paid money for the ability to change it.

    I've owned several cars with various shades of green backlighting and one with white backlighting and never had the slightest problem with my night vision while driving any of them.
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    Did you put it on a dyno? 'Cuz 500 sounds a bit...round.
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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    11/19/09

    @bmoreDLJ: 500's just the name, it makes 540 at the crank. Plenty of people have verified this, just ask google.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    11/19/09

    @bmoreDLJ: I don't think the numbers on the nameplate of a Shelby Mustang have ever referred to anything. Legend has it that when coming up with the name for the GT350, Shelby told someone to walk to some point and count the steps, and rounded from there (or something like that).
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    11/19/09

    @Maymar: Named a car based on steps walked? Irony is a cruel mistress.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    11/19/09

    @mr_dude: Well, it'd make a hell of a lot more sense if it were French, or British, or Italian.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    11/19/09

    @Maymar: What's French, British, and Italian for 'osnap'?
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/19/09

    @Wes Siler: I would guess Ford is pretty careful about hp claims after the debacle on the original SVT Cobra.
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    Image of Heavern2 Heavern2
    11/19/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: Can you please tell me about this debacle?
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    snapoversteer 'bout to get told promoted this comment Heavern2 was starred Heavern2 was unstarred
    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/20/09

    @Heavern2: IIRC, Car and Driver found that one of their test cars wasn't producing the claimed output. I think there was a recall and some litigation.

    #tips
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    Me want. I am sure the regular 2011 GT with track pack would be more than enough but I've always liked SVT products. Of course, it would be a big step up from my lil' SVTF I currently drive.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    11/19/09

    In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
    That's right ladies, Wes needs STM to keep his rear end under control.
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