See, that's why 404s won the East African Safari Rally four times in the '60s! It wasn't the sophisticated rear suspension, or the aluminum cross-flow cylinder head, or the Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection, or the whole car's incredible toughness... it was the lion!
Hey, have I ever mentioned to the Commentariat that I like Peugeots? Because I do.
You said Peugeot. That's my invitation to post this yet again. Because it simultaneously does and does not have the shape of Schrödinger's cat. Unfortunately, all you can see is that box, but it's in there. And, of course, it's not.
(I hate French cars. I love Peugeots. The result is severe self-loathing.)
Hmmmm, I guess my monicker won't help me out with anything that I say here, so instead I will reiterate what Van Sarockin said above and that Peugeot makes one hell of a pepper mill. That is actually how they got into bicycles and then eventually cars. In fact they invented the pepper mill.
So remember every time you are grinding pepper onto your 72oz steak that you are supporting the French auto industry. I hope I just ruined steak for everyone.
Y'all better have more respect for Peugot. Your lucky the dealer can't walk over and punch you in the nose for all this low humor about hood ornaments. Go ahead and try to show me another auto manufacturer that makes a pepper mill half as good.
Puggies are ridiculous French "things." The Americans are missing out on nothing.
Same goes for all the other French "things" as well. I don't understand why Renault doesn't make something truly awesome. They clearly have the know-how if you look at F1 for instance. But all they make are dull commuter "things."
The design is questionable, the engines are dull, the reliability is questionable. The price compared to, say a Japanese car in the same class, is questionable if you take into account the reliability - or anything basically.
If I were choosing some mid-class right now, I'd definitely look at Toyota, Honda, Ford or even Opel before looking at all the French cars.
What if one of the French rally car makers put together a team of engineers and made a real competitor against the Lancer Evo or Subaru WRX? Think about all the good publicity they would get for that? I would definitely choose the questionable French styling over the not-so-questionable, hideous Japanese cartoon styling. And this is from a non-4WD guy. I'm not even an Audi guy. But I would seriously consider a powerful 4WD Peugeot, for instance.
I will admit I'd rather have a Clio than a Yaris or Ka or whatever. Other than that though..
@Ileee: My remark came more from my anti-Renault bias than from disagreeing. As a hardcore PSA fan (proud owner of Pug 205 GTi, 505 Wagon and 406 V6 Wagon as well as a Citroen Mehari), I really haven't liked their cars since the 306 went away, and the build quality really has gotten worse since(contrary to what the French media say... ).
However, I don't think any of the french car makers ever aimed to make "commuter thing", and every single little french econoshitbox has some kind of responsibly priced sporty, fun variant.
As for Rallying, Citroen is the reigning WRC Champion, and has been for something like 6 years in a row (S Loeb in his Xsara than C4).
@franzouse, weekend jalop...: I think his point is that PSA and Renault both have winning racing teams but don't translate that into any kickass road cars, which kind of defeats the purpose of racing in the first place.
He wants a new R5 Turbo based on the F1 engine or a 207 WRX or something.
@Novaload Misses Murilee: Yeah, I thought that was kind of a weak pun, too. Since it's the new kid, I guess I'll cut him some slack. Once his name goes on the masthead, the gloves come off, though:-D
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Hey, have I ever mentioned to the Commentariat that I like Peugeots? Because I do.
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(I hate French cars. I love Peugeots. The result is severe self-loathing.)
03/12/09
So remember every time you are grinding pepper onto your 72oz steak that you are supporting the French auto industry. I hope I just ruined steak for everyone.
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Hey they finally just rejoined NATO, after realizing the Cold War is in fact over and they don't have to surrender, give them some credit.
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BUT
HOW DARE YOU SAT PEUGEOTS WERE BLAND ?!
May I remind you of a few ? how about the 205 1.9 GTi ? the 106 GTi ? the 206 RC ?
I am disappointed in you sir; repent for what you have said tarnishes your "Crazy Euro Car Boy" handle.
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The Lion has been on the Peugeot family's seal for something like 200 years.
Thankfully they announced they'd be giving up the cat-face look for the newer cars...
03/12/09
Same goes for all the other French "things" as well. I don't understand why Renault doesn't make something truly awesome. They clearly have the know-how if you look at F1 for instance. But all they make are dull commuter "things."
03/12/09
/french sarcasm
03/12/09
The design is questionable, the engines are dull, the reliability is questionable. The price compared to, say a Japanese car in the same class, is questionable if you take into account the reliability - or anything basically.
If I were choosing some mid-class right now, I'd definitely look at Toyota, Honda, Ford or even Opel before looking at all the French cars.
What if one of the French rally car makers put together a team of engineers and made a real competitor against the Lancer Evo or Subaru WRX? Think about all the good publicity they would get for that? I would definitely choose the questionable French styling over the not-so-questionable, hideous Japanese cartoon styling. And this is from a non-4WD guy. I'm not even an Audi guy. But I would seriously consider a powerful 4WD Peugeot, for instance.
I will admit I'd rather have a Clio than a Yaris or Ka or whatever. Other than that though..
03/12/09
However, I don't think any of the french car makers ever aimed to make "commuter thing", and every single little french econoshitbox has some kind of responsibly priced sporty, fun variant.
As for Rallying, Citroen is the reigning WRC Champion, and has been for something like 6 years in a row (S Loeb in his Xsara than C4).
But good call on the Clio.
03/12/09
He wants a new R5 Turbo based on the F1 engine or a 207 WRX or something.
03/12/09
WTF?
This could have been an interesting piece. A waste of some interesting hood ornament pictures.
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