It's probably just me, but these new Lamborghinis just don't do anything for me. The original, awesome Lamborghinis such as the Miura, Countach, and Diablo were awesome spectacles of RWD sports car engineering that would just as happily kill their drivers as lap a track. They were also known to start only when it suited them, randomly quit when it suited them, and spontaneously combust at will.
Sure, they were dangerous cars. But that is what made them so cool and so interesting. It took a real man to so much as open the doors of these cars, let alone drive and master them. They were the Hemingway of sports cars. Pure, visceral, testosterone-filled exercises in existentialism.
And then they "refined" Lamborghini with the introduction of the Murcielago and Gallardo, and then VW went one step further in increasing production costs so that every wannabe Hollywood douche and Kim Kardashian could have one.
And now they release the Balboni (terrible name, btw), and potentially this, and market them as being sports cars that are "exclusive", "wild", and "dangerous"?
There is nothing especially exclusive about them. There may only be 250 of them to begin with, but that will change as soon as they start selling, at which point they will be built in even bigger volumes, to the detriment of those who initially bought them. "Wild" and "dangerous"? Sorry kids, but it takes more than a pretty face to dance and capture the imagination of pubescent boys.
What happened, Lamborghini?
You've turned into the Nordstroms of sports cars. You sell expensive stuff that you claim is wild (but isn't), and then have sale after sale, but only after you ridiculously jack up your prices, just as you release a car that is wild only compared to its much tamed contemporary brethren (but a total pushover compared to its illustrious predecessors).
@Mobius_1000_Club: Apparently it worked for a guy trying to sell a green Rover.
Besides, if I buy a Lamborghini, I want a Lamborghini. I want a car where the salesman advises me that there is a 67% chance the car won't start right away, a 58% chance that it will randomly stop running, a 32% chance that the car will try to kill me, and an 18% chance it will randomly burn itself to the ground on any given day, but there is always 100% chance of awesomeness everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.
Dammit, I want a Lamborghini
These new, post-VW ownership Lambos just don't offer that.
@pauljones: What happened to Lamborghini was a family of purists got bought out by a giant multi-national corporation who have to answer to shareholders. Every decision is tempered by that all consuming need to constantly bolster the bottom line.
Gone are the days when you could make an insane sports car in your tractor shop and bring it to market with every dime invested in making it a better car. Now it's all about safety and regulations and appealing to as wide an audience as possible rather than going after the niche enthusiasts.
Dammit pauljones! I was in a great mood before coming across your comment. Now I just want to take over the world so I can save Lambo from themselves.
@pauljones: The car you are looking for is a Koenigsegg. Or maybe a Caparo T1. A Pagani Zonda F ZR Prosciutto di Parma might also work.
Lamborghini is just far too buttoned-down these days. The company that gave the finger to Ferrari, stole BMW's money, went 180 mph on 60 Minutes, told Gandini to shove it, eschewed slushboxes (mostly), and made the Jota no longer exists.
@brandegee: Amen. Lamborghini is dead. Practicality killed it.
I think that because car making is no longer a blank instructional book that the engineers are going to write as they build their cars, but rather a book that's now filled and tells them how to do exactly what to make what component behave in exactly what way, and all for a certain price, and lasts a certain number of years. Sure it's imperfect, but it's, for all intents and purposes to us enthusiasts, too close to perfect. An engineer can no longer do something world-breaking with a car. It is no longer an art, but an exact science. And science is no fun.
What's more, it is only logical to make a car better than the one before it. And now, after decades of hooning and honing, the car is so competent, it's become painfully boring. No longer can one be excited driving down a country road, no longer does one need to stay awake and concentrated to drive to the shops, no longer is driving beyond the speed limit a death sentence to the driver and every single passenger.
It's over. Cars simply cannot be both competitive and exciting without being overwhelming (unless you are Michael Schumacher). Let's all build scramjet-powered ekranoplanes until that becomes boring.
It kind of sucks to have your tribute Lamborghini called the "budget option" Lamborghini.
Let's call it the "sport" Lamborghini.
Or in the spirit of Lamborghini, we'll give it a long name. The "F*ck-off I don't need all-wheel-drive Lamborghini Valentino Balboni Get Shorty Edition."
@leavethegun-takethecannoli: I disagree. This is a Lambo for the people at the... uh... "meek" entry price. A Lambo that could be had by all and that will probably kill it's drivers, much like lambo tried to kill it's test driver many times without a doubt.
@pleco believes in FOTA: this still has ESP.. so it's more like a wicked 6 flags coaster.. oh sure you think your gonna die, but then the liability lawyers in the engine compartment dial things down to minor cuts and bruises not worthy of a 6 figure settlement.
So the Viper will remain as the "most likely to kill you" champion, with this coming in a distant second.
@PowerTryp: Actually.. that's the first thing i thought of when they mentioned rwd.. a lambo that can actually be used as a race car without major modification.
Get ready to see a bunch of Gallardos killed at the hands of incompetent owners. Sure, the AWD system takes away some of the pure sports car driving dynamic, but it makes the car a lot more forgiving in the hands of stupidity.
Maybe we should start working on designs for Save the Gallardos shirts. Just so we're ready.
Ugh, that maize yellow looks like a kitchen from 1978. Other than that, awesome. What happened to the SV designation for the rear-wheel drive special editions?
@leavethegun-takethecannoli:Congrats on your star...it's been a long time coming, but you will have to tell me your secret because I would love to have a star of my own. But congrats to you for finally getting
@citroën67:I don't know the secret to getting one. If you behave yourself, as I am not known to do, you will get a star sooner rather than later. And thank you.
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Sure, they were dangerous cars. But that is what made them so cool and so interesting. It took a real man to so much as open the doors of these cars, let alone drive and master them. They were the Hemingway of sports cars. Pure, visceral, testosterone-filled exercises in existentialism.
And then they "refined" Lamborghini with the introduction of the Murcielago and Gallardo, and then VW went one step further in increasing production costs so that every wannabe Hollywood douche and Kim Kardashian could have one.
And now they release the Balboni (terrible name, btw), and potentially this, and market them as being sports cars that are "exclusive", "wild", and "dangerous"?
There is nothing especially exclusive about them. There may only be 250 of them to begin with, but that will change as soon as they start selling, at which point they will be built in even bigger volumes, to the detriment of those who initially bought them. "Wild" and "dangerous"? Sorry kids, but it takes more than a pretty face to dance and capture the imagination of pubescent boys.
What happened, Lamborghini?
You've turned into the Nordstroms of sports cars. You sell expensive stuff that you claim is wild (but isn't), and then have sale after sale, but only after you ridiculously jack up your prices, just as you release a car that is wild only compared to its much tamed contemporary brethren (but a total pushover compared to its illustrious predecessors).
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But then again, nor are burning cars.
Or maybe it's the Audi/German-ness that make their cars, well, better cars, but worse supercars.
07/15/09
Besides, if I buy a Lamborghini, I want a Lamborghini. I want a car where the salesman advises me that there is a 67% chance the car won't start right away, a 58% chance that it will randomly stop running, a 32% chance that the car will try to kill me, and an 18% chance it will randomly burn itself to the ground on any given day, but there is always 100% chance of awesomeness everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.
Dammit, I want a Lamborghini
These new, post-VW ownership Lambos just don't offer that.
07/15/09
Gone are the days when you could make an insane sports car in your tractor shop and bring it to market with every dime invested in making it a better car. Now it's all about safety and regulations and appealing to as wide an audience as possible rather than going after the niche enthusiasts.
Dammit pauljones! I was in a great mood before coming across your comment. Now I just want to take over the world so I can save Lambo from themselves.
07/15/09
Lamborghini is just far too buttoned-down these days. The company that gave the finger to Ferrari, stole BMW's money, went 180 mph on 60 Minutes, told Gandini to shove it, eschewed slushboxes (mostly), and made the Jota no longer exists.
07/15/09
I think that because car making is no longer a blank instructional book that the engineers are going to write as they build their cars, but rather a book that's now filled and tells them how to do exactly what to make what component behave in exactly what way, and all for a certain price, and lasts a certain number of years. Sure it's imperfect, but it's, for all intents and purposes to us enthusiasts, too close to perfect. An engineer can no longer do something world-breaking with a car. It is no longer an art, but an exact science. And science is no fun.
What's more, it is only logical to make a car better than the one before it. And now, after decades of hooning and honing, the car is so competent, it's become painfully boring. No longer can one be excited driving down a country road, no longer does one need to stay awake and concentrated to drive to the shops, no longer is driving beyond the speed limit a death sentence to the driver and every single passenger.
It's over. Cars simply cannot be both competitive and exciting without being overwhelming (unless you are Michael Schumacher). Let's all build scramjet-powered ekranoplanes until that becomes boring.
Amen.
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You should see what they do to this one...
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Let's call it the "sport" Lamborghini.
Or in the spirit of Lamborghini, we'll give it a long name. The "F*ck-off I don't need all-wheel-drive Lamborghini Valentino Balboni Get Shorty Edition."
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No more of this namby-pamby four-wheel-drive nonsense.
I bet the first few show up wrecked within hours of release. We all know most Lambo owners are lifetime members of the "More Money Than Brains" club.
If I win the lotto, sign me up for one of these death machines.
06/30/09
So the Viper will remain as the "most likely to kill you" champion, with this coming in a distant second.
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Which means it's the Murcielago LP640.
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Why would it get Pop-Tart in it?
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Not as good as the Diablo but still nice.
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RWD Manuel? Good lord that's hot.
Can't wait to see it go sideways around some tracks.
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AWD = german sensibility != batshit insane
RWD+Manual Tranny + 550hp = maniacal laughter = crazy italian bull
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Maybe we should start working on designs for Save the Gallardos shirts. Just so we're ready.
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@SirNotAppearing: Thank you.