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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    09:17 PM

    In reply to And The Winner Is...
    OK, that's impressive! Way to go, PLRs!
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    05:28 PM

    In reply to Italian Cars Totally Reliable At Arse Freeze, Just About Everything Else Blows Up
    In related news, cats and dogs call a truce, will get together later for a few beers.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    01:53 PM

    In reply to Italian Cars Totally Reliable At Arse Freeze, Just About Everything Else Blows Up
    Great pictures.
    2 x 4 hood prop FTW. Dazed, strained smiles FTW.
    Headgasket over face=real head gasket.
    Photographer's shadow hand on guy's butt=accidental win!
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    01:04 PM

    In reply to More British Leyland Carnage: Spinout-Happy TR7 T-Boned By V8olvo
    At last! A driver who cusses --when I see these videos, I'm always surprised that the drivers may grunt or squeak but none of them seem to cuss a blue streak, which is what I would do. And do, in fact, do when I'm driving alone.
    I call it "Car Tourette's"-- you hear the damnedest foul words coming out of your mouth very loudly--sometimes I even surprise myself. So, nothing to apologize for, Dude. I thought you were rather restrained, under the circumstances.
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    Edited by Novaload at 11/22/09 1:05 PM Novaload was starred Novaload was unstarred
    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12:57 PM

    In reply to Killer Bee MGB Wipes Out, Gets Rolled Into Ball Of British Leyland Scrap
    That picture is hilarious. The Bee looks like a cartoon car, grinning at us in spite of his smooshed up face.
    And is that Ian Anderson in the red shoes? Shouldn't he be back in Scotland with his salmon farm and his Tull royalties?
    Whoever he is, he's not too old to rock--and roll.
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    12:53 PM

    In reply to Italian Cars Totally Reliable At Arse Freeze, Just About Everything Else Blows Up
    This, to me, speaks to the creativity and dedication of the participants of LeMons.

    When what is effectively a 'junk' car is used, then piece-mealed together just enough to run/drive, yet stays together under racing conditions...conditions which would kill many new cars...long enough to finish a decent amount of distance, I am quite happy to know I'm not alone in my quest to make mechanical items last forever.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12:09 PM

    In reply to More British Leyland Carnage: Spinout-Happy TR7 T-Boned By V8olvo
    Impressive avoidance on the parts of those around them, and bad luck for the V8olvo guys. Hope it's running fine again now.

    I'd like to see the TR7 going again in all its damaged glory, too.
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    12:04 PM

    In reply to Killer Bee MGB Wipes Out, Gets Rolled Into Ball Of British Leyland Scrap
    If there was someone behind the Honda guys, there wasn't much else they could have done - four wheels off, a bumper through their trunklid, or PITting the at-fault driver... well, I don't blame him.

    (If there wasn't anyone on his arse, he should've let off, of course, but it's likely that he couldn't and was hoping the 'B pilot woke up.)
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    10:45 AM

    In reply to Italian Cars Totally Reliable At Arse Freeze, Just About Everything Else Blows Up
    The Italian Cars have been quite inspirational at LeMons. The New England race had a contingent of Alfas that proved quite reliable, and finished in the top 10.

    On the other hand, having a very simple engine in my car proved to be the winning hand.
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    11:10 AM

    @UDMan: That's true -- aside from that Rube Goldberg belt, the Corvair can be kept running with nothing but JB Weld and coathangers.
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    Image of günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
    10:29 AM

    In reply to Italian Cars Totally Reliable At Arse Freeze, Just About Everything Else Blows Up
    g*d damn! mercedes-benz... is almost *everything* you do artwork? i would hang that manifold on my wall proudly!

    ....not to mention that pinky finger-sized hose that failed and caused the team so many problems...
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    Image of blueplate blueplate
    10:35 AM

    @günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi: Meanwhle, I'm wondering how you diagnose a hose failure at a track, where it's loud, you have only the tools you brought, and no hoist. Do you just listen around with a stethoscope and try to hear the sound of escaping.. er.. vacuum? air?
    And how do you even know to look for a hose, instead of, say, a failure of ze German electrics?
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    skitter promoted this comment blueplate was starred blueplate was unstarred
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    10:41 AM

    @blueplate: Hose testing on the is best done with WD40 or starter fluid or proper flammable brake cleaner, which on the intake side will make the engine rev up, or soap and water to look for bubbling or sucking down spots.
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    10:48 AM

    @skitter: Mmmm, flammable. I think for safety's sake, we'd better use this can-- it says "inflammable".
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    Image of günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
    11:18 AM

    @blueplate: no, all the extra sound of LeMons helps... you only hear the sounds of SUCK** go by once a lap (**apply to which-ever country/type car you don't like), which on the full course seems to give you a couple of minutes...

    ze electroniks of mother deutschland do not fail, zey just funkshun differently!!
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    Edited by günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi at 11/22/09 11:20 AM günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi was starred günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi was unstarred
    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    11:41 AM

    @günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi: Das blinkenlights mit spitzensparken!
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    Image of günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
    11:48 AM

    @AmishJohn: i... i don't know what to type... here, i made this coffee just for you. yeah, there's a bit of "cream" in it.. no no.. it's actually cream... just drink up... it's almost noon...
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12:50 PM

    @blueplate: Heart-clicky.

    I can hear that being said in many a place, LeMons not being one of them, but still.
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    10:07 AM

    In reply to Italian Cars Totally Reliable At Arse Freeze, Just About Everything Else Blows Up
    Aren't the Zs almost always dismal failures in LeMons?

    ...on the other hand, the Benz is not a surprise. It's a GT, not a sports car, and is as reliable as any post-W124 Benz is ever going to be.
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    11:06 AM

    @Paul Y. don't drive too fast.: You seem to be right about the Z's... every LeMons race I've seen one mentioned in is usually followed by some tale of mechanical or electrical woes.

    My guess it's due to the same reason you don't see too many of the older ones on the streets anymore: likely they were too mercilessly overhooned in their useful lifespans to have much wherewithal left for a resurrection.

    Also, once you got into the 280's, the electrical complexity grew by leaps & bounds, which is never a good thing to have to find & fix on an older car.
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    Edited by HoonThatFerrari at 11/22/09 11:07 AM HoonThatFerrari was starred HoonThatFerrari was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12:48 PM

    @Paul Y. don't drive too fast.: You hit the proverbial nail-on-the-head.

    "Post-W124 Benz".

    I'd hop in my 124 E320, right now, not knowing it particularly well (have had it since Jan., but haven't driven it much), and take it to any corner of the country starting from DFW.
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    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    10:07 AM

    In reply to Killer Bee MGB Wipes Out, Gets Rolled Into Ball Of British Leyland Scrap
    I think its one of those things where the Honda driver never thought the B driver would come over that far and make contact. Yeah, I guess the Honda driver could have slammed on the brakes but the B driver has a responsibility to the other cars around him.

    Since there was no one under the B, there was no reason to swing way out to make the left hander. The Honda driver has as much right to the track and a racing line as anyone else.

    Rule #1 in racing - Hold Your Line.

    Well, if it's not #1, it should be up there.
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    12:35 PM

    @Uncle Bo: He absolutely thought the guy was coming over that far... look at 0:05 through 0:11 & you'll see how the Honda's line changes from having plenty of track off to the right, to nearly having one set of wheels in the dirt. THEN, that's when he comes back to the left.... back, and to the left... back, and to the left.

    Not saying that he knew he was going to take out the Bee, but why - at that particular point - would one make the decision to swerve left without backing off the throttle a hair, when it's really, really obvious that contact would be made?

    But then again, there's a lot of factors & disctractions involved that we can't see or experience through the eyes of the camera, so it's likely this is just one of those unfortunate incidents than can occur in any race.

    Glad the guy in the Bee is OK.
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    Edited by HoonThatFerrari at 11/22/09 12:39 PM HoonThatFerrari was starred HoonThatFerrari was unstarred
    Image of Uncle Bo Uncle Bo
    01:02 PM

    @HoonThatFerrari:

    The Honda went as far right as he could, until his right tires were in the dirt. That is what caused the left-right movement.

    We have the luxury of watching the video over and over, analyzing every second, and criticizing the actions of both drivers..... drivers who did not have the same luxuries as we do. That's why race drivers need to follow certain rules of decorum; they do not have the time to endlessly analyze every moment of competition.

    Yes, there are many factors and distractions present, but it was one major mistake that caused this incident. Fortunately, no one paid a big price for that mistake. Hopefully it was "lesson learned" for all involved.
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    Image of skitter skitter
    09:40 AM

    In reply to Killer Bee MGB Wipes Out, Gets Rolled Into Ball Of British Leyland Scrap
    As usual, an MG fails to live up to expectations.

    And where did our intrepid cameraman learn to drive? NASCAR?
    I'll acknowledge shared fault, but he should have backed down.
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    11:07 AM

    @skitter: I'm guessing there was somebody behind the Honda.
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    08:13 AM

    In reply to More British Leyland Carnage: Spinout-Happy TR7 T-Boned By V8olvo
    The footage from this posting, as well as the MGB that went flying off into the grass shows that the speeds have increased at this venue. It also looks like the "Racecar" (RX-7, E30, Miata, Honda) is dominating over the "LeMons" cars.
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    Image of Jeff Landy Jeff Landy
    08:54 AM

    @UDMan: It also looks like the "Racecar" (RX-7, E30, Miata, Honda) is dominating over the "LeMons" cars.

    I suspect that's a main reason that only half the prize money is based on laps completed. There's no way to keep a race from being about racing, but letting slower entrants have a chance at glory keeps the lemons coming.
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    Image of Bobby McNipples Bobby McNipples
    03:32 AM

    In reply to Day One In The Books, Germans Dominate Top Five
    What place is the LSD V-12 Benz in? I can't find their team name in the previous post.
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    03:38 AM

    @Bobby McNipples: That was what I too, wanted to see. And also, please, a full listing of the number of ratty RX-7s and E30s ahead of it!
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    Image of rimplestultskin, macberry fanboy rimplestultskin, macberry fanboy
    04:00 AM

    @Bobby McNipples: well, if by place, you mean risk of getting people's curse, they shot into first place quickly after the race began.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12:42 PM

    @Bobby McNipples: Yeah, I was hoping it'd be #1 on both the standings and the people's curse.

    However, the car likely has been immobile for extended periods in its history, which wreaks havoc on parts which really need "exercise" regularly.

    Transmission seals come to mind, from personal experience.
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    Image of AngryChineseDriver -- R.I.P., Audi R8 Decepticon AngryChineseDriver -- R.I.P., Audi R8 Decepticon
    03:15 PM

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son: How disappointing, it's such a nice ride that I cringe at the notion of swapping paint with a rusty Crown Vic...
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    that ain't the way to have fun, son promoted this comment AngryChineseDriver -- R.I.P., Audi R8 Decepticon was starred AngryChineseDriver -- R.I.P., Audi R8 Decepticon was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    04:54 PM

    @AngryChineseDriver -- R.I.P., Audi R8 Decepticon:

    Agreed. However, I have no difficulty believing it's impossible to register.

    I do suggest the current owners watch the 1974 version of Gone In 60 Seconds, however, as a primer on what needs to happen.
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