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Jason Pope
07/06/09

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Wow so many anti Ford fanbois here.

The Stang in all its various flavors sell more thanany other Ford car there is.

why wouldnt they ride it?

and btw.. us Ford guys asked for those flavors..

and they listened.

Not everyone can afford a Shelby GT500 let alone a KR.

we like to be able to have a Mustang in our price range that fits us.

Now if these cars were sitting and rotting on dealer lots like F150s and other trucks.. you might have a point.. but down here at least you cannot even get your hands on a GT in choice colors most of the time.

they are all sold out.. and dont even think about getting a Gt500 or even a Shelby GT without being on a waiting list or paying over sticker.

So nothing wrong at all with various flavors of Mustangs.

and BTW the Foxes ate the hell out of DIEROCS during the 80s.

specially 5.0 LX notchbacks.

too many Chevy/Pontiac retards around here to listen to anything anyway.
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pauljones
07/06/09

@Jason Pope:

A) You are correct, if the consumer ask for them and subsequently buy them, there is nothing wrong with them.

B) F-150s have once more surpassed Civics as the best-selling new vehicle in America.

C) Only if those Foxes were modified and the IROCs were stock.

D) Yep, that's right, I'm a GM guy that likes my Camaros and Firebirds. Your point?
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Mobius
07/06/09

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With a new V8, the other two ponies have nothing performance-wise on the Mustang.
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Boosted Lego Wagon
07/06/09

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Unless this is REALLY good camoflauge on a Focus RS, who cares?
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leavethegun-takethecannoli
07/06/09

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You got to be kidding me. Now they've crossed the line.

Who the hell is going to buy a Rick Ross edition Mustang?
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Alphamazing
07/06/09

@leavethegun-takethecannoli: No, you've got it all wrong.

It's obviously a Bruce Springsteen Special Edition Mustang.
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leavethegun-takethecannoli
07/06/09

@Alphamazing: I thought Bruce jumped on the hybrid bandwagon- and the car doesn't look like a complete piece of sh*t, like Bruce.
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pauljones
07/06/09

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I hope it is, and I hope they replace the current V6 with the Ecoboost V6.

Then we would really see some interesting pony car wars.
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Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
07/06/09

@pauljones: Camaro definitely upped the ante with its 304hp V6 and IRS, but the lighter Mustang wouldn't need the same power to be competitive. I think an additional 50 or 60 HP over the current 4 liter Six should be perfectly adequate for the volume selling base car. Everybody goes nuts over the top engine options in pony cars, but it's the base car that makes the sales volume.
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pauljones
07/06/09

@Turbineguy:

I agree with that. If they could get the V6 Mustang up to around the same level as the SN95 GTs, which put out 265 hp, they would be in good shape.

@Blueovalkid formerly known as Clashtastic now with MOAR English:

Good to hear. Hopefully the will be smart about it, and maintain the availability of the GT suspension in the V6, something that GM needs to do with the Camaro.
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Six Flags Over Tomsk
07/06/09

@pauljones: And give it a grille-less nose and a biplane rear wing, yes?

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GeeHalen
07/06/09

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Why cover-up a car if the advancement is under the hood. I know it may not fit but then they could just put a new lid there. This way it draws way too much attraction.
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Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
07/06/09

@GeeHalen: Agreed, camo on cars always makes me look at (and sometimes chase) vehicles trying to get a picture.
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Comrade Clockwork
07/06/09

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Please Ford....no more mustangs. Just build one good one and get on with it.
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Maymar
07/06/09

@Clockwork: Eh, Ford's been tweaking the Mustang non-stop for the past 45 years, why stop now? It's the same thing the Japanese do, they just substitute an impressive sounding term (kaizen) for more special editions.
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GeeHalen
07/06/09

@Maymar is (insert recent meme here): The problm is making 42562436 versions of one car within one generation. In fact within a year!
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Maymar
07/06/09

@GeeHalen: Yeah, but most of them are meaningless special editions. This is a new engine. I suppose they could've developed it to be introduced at the same time as the new car, but on the other hand, if they were choosing behind lagging in the muscle car wars, half-assing the engine, or doing this, I agree with holding back on the engine.
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pauljones
07/06/09

@GeeHalen:

Interestingly, Ford has made no more than five versions of the car since 2005: Base, Base WIP edition, GT, Shelby GT, Bullit, and GT500.

Granted, we probably could have done without the WIP edition, but otherwise, the Base and the GT are standard fare, and we pretty much asked for the Bullit, Shelby GT and GT500, and we got them.

The rest of what I assume you are referring to are all Roush, Saleen, Cervini, and crackerjack box full of other aftermarket tuner versions.

All told, while six is a lot, for the most part, Ford simply responded to what the customers asked them for, and profited from it. I'm cool with that.

Like you, though, I am also tired of all the aftermarket tuner "editions" like AV8R, etc.
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Joe Valasek
07/06/09

@Clockwork: Technically, they are only building one (fun) car. Back in the day you could choose from Mustang, Falcon, Thunderbird, or Galaxie in various performance versions. Now they only have the stang.

Besides, Who doesn't make multiple versions? Camaro: RS, SS, LT, Z28, IROC Z, Yenko...

/proud owner of a 2004 Mach 1
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pauljones
07/06/09

@Joe Valasek: I don't care much for the SN95s, but I do have a total soft spot for the Mach 1, particularly in Azure Blue.

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GeeHalen
07/06/09

@pauljones: Shelby has the GT500, the GT500KR, the GTH, the Super Snake, the Terlingua and I'm sure I missed something and these are just the Shelby's.

Keeping upgrading a car that's based on performance makes the base versions toys.
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pauljones
07/06/09

@GeeHalen: I did forget the GT500KR, which brings the total up to seven. But again, they did so in reply to customer demand, and made money off of it.

The GTH is a Shelby GT, so that one doesn't count, and the Super Snake, while having the same Shelby name as the GT500, is on the aftermarket end of Shelby's business, and was not done in conjunction with Ford.
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Alphamazing
07/06/09

@Joe Valasek: The Glaxie was never a fun car. It was a big honkin' full-size family sedan. Not a muscle car.

The Thunderbird was a luxury car.

The Falcon was offered with a max of the 302 Windsor.

I mean, if you were going to mention older Fords, you could have at least mentioned the Torino and Gran Torino.
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pauljones
07/06/09

@Alphamazing: Uh, let's see here:

The Ford Galaxie 500

The (albeit rare) Ford SC Thunderbird:

And a 302 Windsor in the Falcon was no slouch.

I dunno, I think those qualify as Muscle Cars.
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pauljones
07/06/09

@pauljones: Picture fail.

It was a picture of 1957 For Thunderbird with one of the rare supercharged 312 engines.
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Timtoolman, sporadically speaking
07/06/09

@pauljones: You've forgotten the new Iococca version.
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pauljones
07/06/09

@Timtoolman, now with power tools!:

Again, not a Ford factory-sanctioned piece, but rather another aftermarket special edition through Galpin dealers, so that one doesn't count against Ford either.

[jalopnik.com]
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Electro_Boogie
07/06/09

@pauljones: There is no need to have 5 or 6 versions of this car.

All the dollar segments are nicely contained within 3 cars: base, GT, GT500. Trying to come to Ford's defense for cars like the Bullit and Shelby GT is really futile...Ford needs to concentrate on making sporty cars other than the Mustang. It's like they're mining the hell out of one mountain when there are other peaks surrounding them.
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pauljones
07/06/09

@Electro_Boogie: If the consumers ask for them, and the consumers buy them, and the company therefore profits from selling them, then, yes, I would say that there is a need to have that many versions.
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asenna
07/06/09

@pauljones: did you forget the california special, and cobra jet? I am sure there are more.
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pauljones
07/06/09

@asenna: No, I didn't forget them, I just did count them as I always thought that the CS was just a trim level that added a different stripe, as opposed to the Bullit, GT500, etc. which actually differed in a technical sense, and the Cobra Jet doesn't count by my standards as it is a race package sold to racers, not to the public in general.
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asenna
07/06/09

@pauljones: The Bullitt is a cosmetic package!
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pauljones
07/06/09

@asenna: No, the Bullit actually differs from the standard GT both in terms of suspension and engine.
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