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    Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You

    2011 Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger To Remain Rear-Wheel Drive, Get Makeover
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    If the model designation doesn't end in J, it's not a fucking Jeep. That means you, Patriot, Compass, Commander, Nitliberto, and new-Grand-Cherokee.


    Well, maybe I can make an exception for the minivan-engined Wrangler. I'll have to think about it.

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    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    "an aluminum front axle and low-rolling-resistance tires''

    WTF?! On a Jeep?! Surely you mean a forged steel axle and 37" mud tires, right?
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    Image of Truth thru Physics Truth thru Physics
    12/17/08

    @discontinuuity: Jeep was a brand that had value to Chrysler. Note: "was".


    Loosing the 4.0L straight six was a bad thing for the TJ/Wrangler. Chrysler polluted the brand with the Commander and other hideous vehicles.


    I'd like to see them test the aluminum axles and low rolling resistance tires on the Rubicon Trail like they used to do with all Jeeps.

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    12/18/08

    @Truth thru Physics: The Commander's fine (it's basically the Wagoneer, redone), it's the Compass and Patriot that have no business wearing the badge.


    The minivan V6 was an epic fail, for sure. The failure to make a diesel Wrangler or put the 4.7L V8 in the Unlimited leave me very happy with my '00 TJ.

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    Image of BaconSandwich and the generic grey civic of doom BaconSandwich and the generic grey civic of doom
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    This really reminds me of a particular episode of Family Matters (you know, the show with Steve Urkel). Steve and Carl were sitting in the basket of a hot air balloon. Steve accidentally pulls the string that fires the burner and causes the hot air balloon to rise off the ground. Steve, with his surprisingly not-so-quick thinking thinks that by pulling the same thing again, maybe the hot air balloon would go down. He ends up pulling on it several times and the hot air balloon floats away with Steve and Carl in it.


    Chrysler is essentially doing the same thing. It's pulling the same sort of garbage line-up that it has done in the past, thinking that it is going to save itself. Newsflash - it won't.


    As for an updated 300: I could frankly care less. I had a chance to ride in a 300M a while back. The guy that bought it was boasting that he paid "$50k" for it, and that it was "completely loaded". I think the only loaded thing about it was the guy who paid that much for it. To spend that much money, he would have had to be loaded.


    Chrysler: You want to survive? Take a note and produce something along the same lines as the Corolla/Civic. A decently small car that gets good mileage and doesn't look like it's been bloated (by eating too much or a really bad case of bad gas). Sure, such a car might not be very exciting, but who cares. Perhaps you can find excitement in balancing your books instead of producing another car the world doesn't need.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/17/08

    @BaconSandwich: I'd sure like to know what Corolla they sell where you live...



    ...but I know ours looks pretty damn bloated, even if it is better on gas than anything else its size (save the Cobalt XFi with its useless tires).

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    Image of Jared Blalock Jared Blalock
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    Bring back the Magnum Chrysler!
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    12/17/08

    @Jared Blalock: The only Magnum Chrysler should be involved with is the one they insist on putting in their mouth.
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    Image of ☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig. ☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig.
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    And as usual, no bread and butter 4-banger powered sport-hatch/wagon Camry/Accord/Civic killer. Keep on making those thirsty SUV's, Jeeps, trucks and retro 70's muscle cars. Why, I couldn't think of a better lineup to sell during a recession!


    Meanwhile, those of us who'd like to exchange green stuff for automobiles will keep giving it to everyone else except the big three.


    Fail, failfailfail, fail....FAILFAIL, Fail!

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/17/08

    @☠Grяrяrяrяrяrяrя. You'll shoot your eye out with that thin...: Even if they did build a Camcord-killer, Americans would avoid it in droves. See Fusion, Malibu.
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    Image of blogenfreude blogenfreude
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    Heard on NPR that Dan Quayle is involved in Cerberus. Figures.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/17/08

    @blogenfreude: Figures that you heard it on NPR, or that Quayle's involved?


    Oh, both.

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    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    Fuck the Durango, start building a small-midsize (Fusion-sized) car that doesn't toss salad. Until then, failout.
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    Now, if they can make cars that last longer than 60k miles, they'll really be cooking!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/17/08

    @Paul Y. can't think of a better, shorter handle: The problem isn't so much 'cars that last longer than 60k miles', it's 'interiors that don't look and feel like they've been through 60k miles of Arizona driving'.
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    Oh the Pentastar can rot in hell.


    Short of the Magnum/Charger, there's not really a lot coming from Chrys Jeep Dodge that I really can give two shits about.


    I'd buy a Charger, but I hate nearly everything in the Chrysler lineup.

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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    12/17/08

    @Plecostomus - Now with 20% more Algae!: There's still a Magnum?
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    Image of fodder650 fodder650
    12/17/08

    @Ray Wert: Wasnt the magnum cancelled last year?


    Wasnt the PT Cruiser canceled this year?


    Wasnt Cerebus the triple headed dog of hell?

    Wasnt Cerebus the bastardized whore of the not so big three?

    Wasnt Cerebus begging more then GM for a far smaller company?


    Wasnt Tesla supposed to save the world with electric cars running off of magical pixie dust batteries and the souls of its customers?


    Im so confused

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    Image of DannyBN DannyBN
    12/17/08

    @fodder650: I think it was only the PT convertible that was canceled, not the sedan/wagon/breadbox/whatever.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/17/08

    @DannyBN: Hatchback.
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    12/18/08

    @fodder650: Why do people write "Cerebus" instead of "Cerberus"?


    Is it just lazy spelling, or is it some kind of joke that I alone am not getting?

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    Image of blogenfreude blogenfreude
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    A new Durango? FAIL.


    And remember when AMC and Studebaker were going to revamp their product lines and come back? This smells the same.

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    12/17/08

    @blogenfreude: Still waiting for a 2010 Rambler Classic.
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    12/17/08

    @Deartháir and his eight little drained beers: I'd buy that, but only if Chrysler didn't make it. But, I'd really like an S/C Rambler.
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    Image of Rotang Rotang
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed. This sure maps with the TechCrunch article I read on their new plan to break every embargo:


    [www.techcrunch.com]

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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    12/17/08

    @Rotang: We don't break embargoes. We weren't party to any embargo here. This was good ol' fashioned legwork and good ol' fashioned sleuthing.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    12/17/08

    @Ray Wert: Here here for old-fashioned legwork.


    Since things went digital, legwork just doesn't have the same richness that the analog version did.

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    12/17/08

    @Mad_Science: Wait... does that mean you've got those new-fangled digital legs? I'm still stuck with the old analog kind.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    So they've updated the 300 and Charger. See if you can get your greasy little hands on some photos, I'm extremely curious to see what they look like.


    Unfortunately, it's curious in the same sense as someone driving past a massive accident scene. Call it "rubbernecking", if you prefer.

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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    12/17/08

    @Deartháir and his eight little drained beers: Also... you say the 300/Charger are all-new and refreshed. Which is it? Is it a redesign, or is it just another minor styling update of the same fundamental car?
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    Image of georgejetson georgejetson
    12/17/08

    @Deartháir and his eight little drained beers: It's big, it's the scheduled redesign. The platform is being revised and the interiors and exteriors are all-new. The 300's styling is said to be an evolution of the current car's; the Charger will be quite different and heavily retro in the '68-'70 vein.
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    12/18/08

    @georgejetson: Photos or it never happened!


    ...or something.

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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    At least you guys aren't bitter.
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    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    way to aim for the sky chysler... ahem, cerberus
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    Image of scottcom36 has Weekday DT's, Weekend OD's scottcom36 has Weekday DT's, Weekend OD's
    12/17/08

    In reply to Chrysler Reveals Product Future To Journalists, We Reveal Plans To You
    Chrysler just shut down all mfg for 30 days...
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    12/17/08

    @scottcom36: That might put a dent in the 5 or so acres of inventory down at my local Chrysler store. Or not.
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