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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    12:24 PM

    In reply to Chevrolet Cruze: Live And In The Metallic Flesh
    In appearance, it looks years ahead of the decades behind Cobalt. Not just in visual appeal, but it just looks like something higher quality then the cheap ass Cobalt and the Cavalier it replaced.

    Nonetheless, its not revolutionary. Its the GM fanboy's second favorite Chevy (behind the also not revolutionary Volt). Its a competent car, and the only reason its gotten as much love as it has, is the fact Chevy hasn't had a competive car in decades. This hasn't been the same for automakers like Toyota, Honda, and Ford.

    GM deserves a pat on the back for this car. Nothing else.
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    10:23 AM

    In reply to Chevrolet Cruze: Live And In The Metallic Flesh
    Ooooo....it looks...the same as it has for like three years now.

    Grille needs more busy if it's going to fight the smaller Fiesta.
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    Edited by bmoreDLJ at 12/02/09 10:23 AM bmoreDLJ was starred bmoreDLJ was unstarred
    Image of pauljones pauljones
    10:26 AM

    @bmoreDLJ: How is that?

    The Cruze was just released in Europe as a 2009 model.
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    10:01 AM

    In reply to Chevrolet Cruze: Live And In The Metallic Flesh
    Now, if there was a wagon variant, I might even consider owning one in the future. Since wagons are supposedly unmarketable, however, no dice.

    On the other hand, it's tough to do worse than the dynasties of shitboxes that this car is replacing, so at least there's that.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    10:08 AM

    @Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp: I liked the Cobalt, actually; interior materials notwithstanding, it really was decent little car, as long as you got it with a manual.

    The styling was far from exciting, but neither was it offensive. It put down competitive performance numbers, it got great mileage, and it had a number of cool gadgets and features that you couldn't even find on a $150k S-class. My personal favorite was the tire pressure gauge, which actually indicated what the pressure in each individual tire was, as opposed to other systems that simply illuminated an idiot light indicating that one of the four tires is low on air.

    Had they given it some better interior materials and a better automatic, it would have been an awesome little car. As it is, all can be forgiven for bringing us the the all-kinds-of-awesome Cobalt SS Sedan.
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    Image of Timtoolman, sporadically speaking Timtoolman, sporadically speaking
    10:15 AM

    @pauljones: I once rented a Pontiac that had the pressure gauge and would have been stranded halfway across Florida without it. Not a Pontiac fan, but this was a really great option to have.
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    Image of nataku8_e30 nataku8_e30
    10:48 AM

    @pauljones: I also like the Cobalt. I haven't driven a manual one yet (I will in about 3 weeks since I convinced my Mom to buy an XFE use C4C and my GM card discount - 8k new), but I even liked the lousy automatic models. I was able to average high 30 mpgs with the AC blasting at 80 mph, and it was a good car to avoid getting into trouble with. The transmission was really annoying though, in that it just wouldn't downshift.
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    11:05 AM

    @nataku8_e30: I can echo this. I drove a rented Cobalt a couple weeks ago and got a verified 36mpg doing mostly 90mph over 200miles of freeway.
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    11:14 AM

    @pauljones: The SS is obviously an exception that is not obvious enough for me to have thought of.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    10:00 AM

    In reply to Chevrolet Cruze: Live And In The Metallic Flesh
    How is the Cruze a Fiesta fighter?

    The Fiesta is intended as a subcompact to slot below the current (and upcoming) Focus. The Cruze is intended to replace the Cobalt, which itself was a Focus competitor.

    The competition for the Fiesta will be whatever GM comes up with to replace the Aveo; knowing Whitacre, we'll soon be seeing a new Chevette.
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    Edited by pauljones at 12/02/09 10:01 AM pauljones was starred pauljones was unstarred
    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    10:07 AM

    @pauljones: You're absolutely right it's not quite a Fiesta-substitute, but it's certainly also not a Focus-fighter as it's too small. The Malibu, for all intents and purposes, slots up against the Fusion and the Impala faces up against the Taurus. But, for the moment, it'll be all they've got in either the small or compact segment that's competitive -- so in that way it's a Fiesta-fighter.
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    Edited by Ray Wert at 12/02/09 10:48 AM Ray Wert was starred Ray Wert was unstarred
    Image of twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight) twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight)
    10:09 AM

    @pauljones: Aveo....that rental car of mine is trying to kill me. It shudders when i try to reach freeway speeds. When I turn the body rolls. The steering wheel feels like it's gonna come apart in my hands.

    I'm scared as to what might replace the Aveo. It might be scarier.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    10:13 AM

    @Ray Wert: I understand your point from the perspective that it's the only real small car they have (the Aveo just doesn't count), and that makes sense.

    But I don't think that the Malibu can be argued as slotting up against the Focus; the Focus is a much smaller, much cheaper car. The Fusion, however, is pretty close to an even match for the Malibu.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    10:15 AM

    @twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight): It sounds like my Saturn.
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    Image of twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight) twitchykun(level 10 Jalop-Knight)
    10:16 AM

    @pauljones: you're a greater man than I, good sir. I'm only stuck with this as a rental.
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    Image of CAJensen01 CAJensen01
    10:41 AM

    @Ray Wert: That's not true at all. The Malibu would slot up against the Fusion, the Altima, the Camry, etc. The Aveo's re-design will slot against the Fiesta. It may be a year or two coming. But the Cruze would slot against the Focus.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    10:48 AM

    @pauljones: Oops. sorry. I meant Fusionm, not Focus.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    10:49 AM

    @CAJensen01: Yeah, I know. I wrote Focus when I meant Fusion. Damn Ford and their F-ing F-worded naming schema!
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    10:51 AM

    @Ray Wert: It does make life confusing, especially this early in the morning on California time, which you are now on as a result of attending the LA Auto Show.

    Welcome to Californialand, my home sweet home.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    09:54 AM

    In reply to Chevrolet Cruze: Live And In The Metallic Flesh
    I will name it Mark because it looks like a hare-lipped dog.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    10/21/09

    In reply to Chevy Cruze Wagon NOT Spotted
    They should hire the photo-shopper as a designer. Stat! #chevycruze
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    10/21/09

    In reply to Chevy Cruze Wagon NOT Spotted
    It's a bit stumpy, but I approve of the attempt. Looks good in yellow too, which I don't say about many cars. #chevycruze
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    Image of PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287
    10/21/09

    In reply to Chevy Cruze Wagon NOT Spotted
    Jalop, Set brains to "stunned."

    Then set them to "irrational desire," followed by "OMGBUILDITBUILDIT," then to "I can't believe they altered it for the American Market," and finally set them at "I wouldn't buy that if you paid me"

    New Car Wagon Variant Sequence Activated. #chevycruze
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    Maymar promoted this comment PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 was starred PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 was unstarred
    Image of RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
    10/21/09

    In reply to Chevy Cruze Wagon NOT Spotted
    Funny quote from IndianAutoblog : "The station wagon variant of the Chevrolet Cruze might not make it to India, but the European and probably American customer prefers such a type of model." #chevycruze
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    10/21/09

    @RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment: "The station wagon variant of the Chevrolet Cruze might not make it to India, but the European and probably American customer prefers such a type of model, provided the American version features gray plastic body cladding, a seven inch increase in ride height, a standard V6, no manual transmission option, a 500 lb. increase in curb weight, and is referred to in marketing and promotional materials as a longroof lifestyle utility vehicle (LLUV)."

    Fixed it for 'em.
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    Edited by Six Flags Over Tomsk at 10/21/09 3:09 PM Six Flags Over Tomsk was starred Six Flags Over Tomsk was unstarred
    Image of RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
    10/22/09

    @Tomsk sez so long Ash78, and thanks for all the fish!:

    I like this vehicle you've described....

    Wait, where's Ash78 going? This place is getting..... #chevycruze
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    Image of Peugeot--Making Bicycles Once Again Peugeot--Making Bicycles Once Again
    10/21/09

    In reply to Chevy Cruze Wagon NOT Spotted
    (In fake British haughty tone): Odd to see a wagon out of its natural habitat, Europe. This is a rare sighting indeed. Wagons usually do not stray too far from Europe. Although they once originated from America, the changing ecosystem and environment caused this creature to find a more hospitable home in Europe.

    Some have tried making the migration back to America and thrive quite well due to their adaptability. They are usually able to maneuver quicker and more efficiently than its distant cousin the SUV, and even though smaller in stature, generally offer more room than its closer relative the crossover or sports activity vehicle.

    It remains to be seen if the reintegration into its natural habitat, America, will work for this beautiful creature. Rest assured if it does it will only have one true predator, the Dragon. #chevycruze
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    10/21/09

    @Peugeot--Now With 20 Followers: Hey, you got Discovery Channel on my Jalopnik! #chevycruze
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    10/21/09

    In reply to Chevy Cruze Wagon NOT Spotted
    That spy pic looks like it was actually taken inside a GM facility.. #chevycruze
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    10/21/09

    In reply to Chevy Cruze Wagon NOT Spotted
    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say...no. There will be no U.S. Cruze wagon. #chevycruze
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    10/21/09

    @bmoreDLJ: Especially not with the Orlando on its way. I mean, heaven forbid they give us a choice between a porky-for-its-size mini-minivan wagony thingy and a proper station wagon riding on the same platform and sharing sheetmetal with a sedan.
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    Image of Ash78, tryptophanatic Ash78, tryptophanatic
    10/21/09

    In reply to Chevy Cruze Wagon NOT Spotted
    Thetan Magnet Yellow, not bad. #chevycruze
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    10/21/09

    @Ash78 isn't really gone, but sorta is: Are you saying what we think you're saying? We think you are and we will so ruin your credit rating somehow. #chevycruze
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    10/21/09

    In reply to Chevy Cruze Wagon NOT Spotted
    Looks good, but that C pillar's going to be a pain. #chevycruze
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    10/21/09

    In reply to Chevy Cruze Wagon NOT Spotted
    I hate to say it, but it looks like a mini-Venza.

    But, at least it doesn't have an identity crisis. #chevycruze
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