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Am I the only one who thinks $34,000 sounds like a really low starting price for a luxury sedan? I was expecting at least $40,0000. Which is probably what the EcoBoost and AWD equipped model starts at..
I know how you hate "badge engineering", and taking a regular old car and slapping on a fancy badge, so shouldn't you HATE this car? Your fanboying must have some limits to see this right, as you accuse GM of doing this (they don't) and it being terrible?
Oh, and that Buick "Cruze" is a Daewoo for Korea, so it isn't badge engineering as there will only be one for that market.
It looks different enough for me to like. When I think of re-badging, I think of the GM U-Body minivans. Re-badged no less then three times over the Pontiac (Driving Excitement my ass), Chevrolet, and Oldsmobile. Or worse, the second generation U-Body vans were re-badged four times (Saturn, Chevy, Buick, Pontiac).
The worst part is, the MKS/Taurus/Sable are good cars. The U-Body minivans were not. I wouldn't have minded a Buick branded Cruze if the Cruze turned out to be a good car, and the Buick rendition was noticeably different. I said that in my reply to the Buick Cruze post.
While I really like the grille on these things, that's the only thing I like. SYNC? No. Engine? No. Reverse sensing? No need, no dragon will approach this thing from the rear with mischievous intent. 35k? You have to be kidding. Even with AWD, there is no driver involvement here. It's an isolation zone for cocooning a mid-level manager from the exurbs to the downtown war zone office. We don't need more of those. We need cars that bring people to life, to solve the problems of existence. We don't need more that put them to sleep, and leave us with more zombies, shuffling purposeless through life.
@maximum-sienna haz a NA V-6: Apparently the hamsters don't like old school HTML code. What was wrong with the del command? Can we get our preview buttom back?
@maximum-sienna haz a NA V-6: You can't. Only italic and bold. And images, although that capability eludes some folks, including myself from time to time.
@leavethegun-takethecannoli: I was thinking, "I will take a base CTS over this any day." but now that you say it. I would also take a Lucerne or the next-gen LaCrosse over this as well.
@leavethegun-takethecannoli: Definately the '64 Continental but even the LS. I hope they make the C-Concept that would atleast be unique. Rather than, "Hey, it isn't as boring as a tarted up Camry."
@BLS: I totally agree. They need to make something cool, something for gangsters. This is just for old people, and they mostly buy Buicks and Cadillacs anyways, not tarted-up Fords.
@maximum-sienna haz a NA V-6: They do have quality products, but their new designs are so reserved. They still cater to the older generation. They continue to gather a larger share of a decreasing customer base.
2010 Fusion: Now With Taillights That Don't Look Like Bleached Dogshit
Seriously, though, why hasn't Ford learned their lesson? If the other side of the world gets a new, better car, we do too. Is it that fucking hard? I mean, look at the Focus. If you can stand to, that is. How's that compare to the European model? That's right.
I'm afraid they're doing the same thing, though this new model is actually a bit nicer looking.
@FuzzyPlushroom: In fairness, the Fusion triplets are actually pretty decent cars all around. The big problem is that the Mondeo is fantastic. The Mondeo is like 95% of a BMW 3-series for 60% of the price, from what I'm told. Much, in fact, like the G8 and its siblings, and the BMW 5-series.
By that comparison, it's hard for the Fusion to not look like crap; but when compared against a Camry or Accord -- although that's not fair either, because a Fusion sits between a Civic and Accord in size -- it's a very valid competitor.
In fairness, we could be equally upset at Honda; the European Accord is the Acura TL over here, and by comparison, the TL is much better, and more expensive. Ford has a quandry, because it needs to compete against both in North America.
It will be interesting to see how they deploy the European models in North America. As it sits, Acura is pretty much alone in its segment, sitting between high-end economy cars and low-end luxury cars. Will the average consumer be willing to pony up more for the vastly-superior Mondeo? I have my doubts, with it wearing a Ford badge. I sincerely hope so.
@FuzzyPlushroom: I wrote about this same issue two years ago on the Super Coupe Club of America and how to fix the current US lineup.
I saw a Focus the other day (00-04 model) with european bumpers the other day in SoCal and I was floored by how pretty it was.
I continue to say that we need the C-max and S-max instead of that god-awful freestar. They could at least sell you a rebadged MPV instead of the antiquated crap that is Freestar.
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Yeah, for this car, you are the only one.
I know how you hate "badge engineering", and taking a regular old car and slapping on a fancy badge, so shouldn't you HATE this car? Your fanboying must have some limits to see this right, as you accuse GM of doing this (they don't) and it being terrible?
Oh, and that Buick "Cruze" is a Daewoo for Korea, so it isn't badge engineering as there will only be one for that market.
03/18/09
It looks different enough for me to like. When I think of re-badging, I think of the GM U-Body minivans. Re-badged no less then three times over the Pontiac (Driving Excitement my ass), Chevrolet, and Oldsmobile. Or worse, the second generation U-Body vans were re-badged four times (Saturn, Chevy, Buick, Pontiac).
The worst part is, the MKS/Taurus/Sable are good cars. The U-Body minivans were not. I wouldn't have minded a Buick branded Cruze if the Cruze turned out to be a good car, and the Buick rendition was noticeably different. I said that in my reply to the Buick Cruze post.
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I already have a W-I-F-E that does that for me.
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FAIL
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Testing
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I thought it was nice a carmaker was finally trying to provide products for our sight-challenged friends.
03/18/09
Lincoln can't even compete with Cadillac anymore.
The new Lincolns look like they were designed for government service.
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Exactly. What happened to the fun Lincolns? The convertibles, the suicide doors?
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Great.
03/18/09
$35K is a little pricey...condos will be less than that in another 12 months. Hell, go to Detroit and buy two houses.
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Tempting, but after thinking about this for more than 0.05 seconds, this requires I live in Detroit.
Pass.
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Peter or Bob? Makes a difference.
11/26/08
The Ford Mondeo-It's my Personal Obama, fixin all my problems and makin' the world a better place. Hopefully both will deliver.
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Seriously, though, why hasn't Ford learned their lesson? If the other side of the world gets a new, better car, we do too. Is it that fucking hard? I mean, look at the Focus. If you can stand to, that is. How's that compare to the European model? That's right.
I'm afraid they're doing the same thing, though this new model is actually a bit nicer looking.
11/26/08
By that comparison, it's hard for the Fusion to not look like crap; but when compared against a Camry or Accord -- although that's not fair either, because a Fusion sits between a Civic and Accord in size -- it's a very valid competitor.
In fairness, we could be equally upset at Honda; the European Accord is the Acura TL over here, and by comparison, the TL is much better, and more expensive. Ford has a quandry, because it needs to compete against both in North America.
It will be interesting to see how they deploy the European models in North America. As it sits, Acura is pretty much alone in its segment, sitting between high-end economy cars and low-end luxury cars. Will the average consumer be willing to pony up more for the vastly-superior Mondeo? I have my doubts, with it wearing a Ford badge. I sincerely hope so.
11/26/08
I saw a Focus the other day (00-04 model) with european bumpers the other day in SoCal and I was floored by how pretty it was.
I continue to say that we need the C-max and S-max instead of that god-awful freestar. They could at least sell you a rebadged MPV instead of the antiquated crap that is Freestar.