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C4_4life
10/08/09

In reply to 2010 VW Golf TDI: First Drive
Why not 170 HP version?

Also Mercedes has got a 2.1L CDI that has 211 HP like a V6, 500 NM of torque like a V8 and gets 44 us mpg in the heavy ass E-class with BM. Now how about that VW?
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Wes Siler
10/09/09

@C4_4life: Why not just throw out the engine and swap in a nuclear reactor? The Golf costs $21,995, that's why.
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FrankGrimes
10/08/09

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No it isn't super fast or extremely attractive but I want one. This seems like the ultimate commuter car and fun to drive.
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Turboner
10/08/09

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FKNA
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B1663R
10/07/09

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for all that care, VW Canada has had this info up for a while. since Canada and US is pretty much the same configure your own!!!

BTW i don't think we're getting 3 door TDI's sorry

[www.vw.ca]
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Xelmon
10/07/09

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You get better mileage from a 10 year old Golf TDI or Honda civic. WTH?
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wojo
10/07/09

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The prophecy is being fulfilled!

How To Get A Diesel Engined Compact Car in America:

1) Endlessly whine about not not having any diesel engined compact cars.
2) Keep saying how much you would want to buy one.
3) Wait several years.
4) When Introduced, criticize the styling.
5) Upon further inspection complain that it's too small, expensive, heavy, slow, and gets surprisingly mediocre gas mileage.
6) Watch car disappear from U.S. market.
7) #@%&!
8) ???????
9) Profit!!!
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Deartháir II
10/07/09

@wojo: You forgot:

- Lather.
- Rinse.
- Repeat.
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eggwich del fiero
10/07/09

@wojo to Ford-Awesome SHO, Great Job!: Your sig is too long: Very nice. I've been meaning to make a flowchart of Jalop excuses complaints, especially when we get what we want, but I am too lazy and dumb. Plus, the new episode of Ow My Balls! is on tonight.
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MushyHeirloom
10/07/09

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Hey, if we can get the four-door model with a stick, I may actually try for one. Shocking.
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B1663R
10/07/09

@MushyHeirloom: hey, that's all that's avalable in NA (5 door TDI and no 3 door tdi

[www.vw.ca]
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eggwich del fiero
10/07/09

@MushyHeirloom: Buy new cars but keep the old, one is silver but the other's a Volv. Seriously, you'd be even cooler in this car, do it!
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Mad_Science
10/07/09

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When fuel prices go back up, this is the car enthusiasts should be driving to work (assuming they save the Thirsty Beast for the weekend).

As long as VW's committed to offering it with the expectation of it being a niche seller for some time, this will be a great ride.

I have the feeling that VW + diesel + hatch + no slushbox is just going to be a little too odd for mainstream acceptance. Their loss, really.
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dal20402
10/07/09

@Mad_Science: I don't think Joe Schmoe will even notice the difference between a slushbox and a DSG, other than saying "it feels a little different."

On the other hand, Joe Schmoe will buy the 2.5, not the diesel. His loss.
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skitter
10/07/09

@dal20402: Hey, Jo Schmo has a lot of friends around here. Maybe you were talking about his evil twin, but watch your step in any case.
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superbadd75, now I remember why I left...
10/07/09

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I really want to like it, but for that kind of cash, and Volkswagen's questionable quality, I just can't. I know it's comparing apples to monkey butts, but for fuel economy you could buy a Prius for that kind of dough and get much better city mileage. For a fun driver, there are quite a few cars out there that would be more fun for the same money or less. I just couldn't see myself spending that much on any Golf without "GTI" on the rump.
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Sam
10/07/09

@superbadd75, with electrolytes!: "Volkswagen's questionable quality" Are you serious?
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eatadonut
10/07/09

@Sam: I've never seen a volkswagen older than a few months that didn't have at least one quirky electrical problem. Mechanically, german. Electrically, they feel a little british.
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Deartháir II
10/07/09

@eatadonut: Sigh. No matter how many times I disprove this bullshit, someone always has to bring it back up again with "anecdotal" proof. The Commentariat's closedminded hatred of Volkswagen is one of the main things driving me away from this place.
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eggwich del fiero
10/07/09

@Deartháir II: The Return: I know this one guy who drank 100 beers a week and smoked four packs a day, and he lived to be 110!

Yeah, anecdotal evidence gets old. But stick around, please, you've got jokes and you've got insights.
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FTGDWolverineEdition'09
10/07/09

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Can we have this diesel instead please? 2.0L 170HP 6Spd diesel.

I know I just had to find something to complain about.
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DarthLefty
10/07/09

@FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Yes please but without the damn diesel
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Ruthless, If you let me
10/07/09

@FTGDWolverineEdition'09: Yes please. I'd buy it in a heartbeat, "new car depreciation" be damned.
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FTGDWolverineEdition'09
10/07/09

@DarthLefty: But then you can do this.Might have to replace Berlin with Washington D.C and Warsaw with Ottawa tho..
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virtualmark
10/07/09

@DarthLefty: Hey now, last I heard the only successful invasion had been from Ottawa to Washington DC, not the other way round.
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Rabbi Dave
10/07/09

In reply to 2010 VW Golf TDI: First Drive
pricing's already been announced and it aint frugal, only comes well equipped at $21,990 before destination! The Jetta TDI is just $700 more.

Pardon the link ray.
[blogs.cars.com]

Good read though Wes.
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that ain't the way to have fun, son
10/07/09

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Subtract a few cubic feet from the cargo area for a propane tank.

Propane injection = much lower EGT so you can crank up the boost/fuel to levels which make the OEM engine designers freak out.

Also reduces the likelyhood of owning an aluminum paperweight.

You want a Cummins ISB which cranks out over 600 HP and 1000+ lbs. of torque? Not a problem...if you can cool the charge enough.

There was a Final Gear a while back which had Vicki Butler-Henderson racing an NSX with a Golf diesel, unmodified save for nitrous njection and maybe some low/no-cost tweaks to the turbo/fuel delivery system.

The drag race was disturbingly close.

[www.youtube.com]

Not propane injection, but similar in result.
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lazlohollyfeld
10/07/09

In reply to 2010 VW Golf TDI: First Drive
I drove a MK V GTI and sold it when i needed more room and grabbed a used W8. Bad move- at 60K the torque converter went and estimates were in the 40 hours of labor range. Yeah, $6Kish. I promptly traded it in for a used ES330 and swore off quirky European cars (I had previously owned a "quirky" i.e., giant disaster of an early volvo C70 coupe). Why am I sharing this? Partly therapy. I loved driving the C70, GTI, and W8, I just hated owning them.
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c0de
10/07/09

@lazlohollyfeld: you owned a VECTOR W8 ?!
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lazlohollyfeld
10/07/09

@c0de: I can only wish ... think more Passat and less vector
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c0de
10/07/09

@lazlohollyfeld: ahhhh.. you meant the W8 engine, I just didn't connect the dots.
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wahaambulance000001002003004
10/07/09

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Lucky Americans.

Your government subsidizes your fuel prices, with the blood of its citizens. This is a LUXURY car where I come from!
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MaWeiTao
10/07/09

@wahaambulance000001002003004: The US government doesn't subsidize our fuel. It's simply that we aren't taxed up the ass for it like Europeans are.
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mobilene
10/07/09

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$21,995?!!? A car that small needs to sticker for more like $16,995. Good grief.
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Wes Siler
10/07/09

@mobilene: Since when has the Golf been small? It's essentially a mid-size.
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mobilene
10/07/09

@Wes Siler: The 09 Rabbit's interior volume is 94 cu ft, which qualifies as a subcompact per federal regs. Midsizers start at 110 cu ft.
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