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LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard
07/15/09

In reply to G8 Survival Again In Doubt?
Fritz Fisterer needs some Jalopnik on his computer screen screaming some market reality into him.

Oi Wert! Start a petition, please.
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Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
07/15/09

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If Fritz could just get it into his head that re-badging is not necessarily bad. Holden Commadore to Chevy Caprice= Good.

Multiple Badging= GMC Arcadia, Saturn Outlook, Chevy Traverse, Buick Enclave, Next Cadillac 'Slade, etc and so forth, all sold in the SAME market. That, Herr Henderson, is bad, and why YOU sir, should be fired. That, and all that other mismanagement stuff, and the whole "new boss, same as the old boss" thing.
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Edited by Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . at 07/15/09 5:41 PM

TexanIdiot25- needs moar horse powah
07/15/09

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FRITZ, STFU NOOB
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LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard
07/15/09

@TexanIdiot25- needs a edit buton... EDIT: Needs...: Not just noob but also a knob
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MushyHeirloom
07/15/09

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That's a shame. I'll have to buy one used after the police are done rather than supporting GM with my money.

Hold on, the fuck?
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If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
07/15/09

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It's good to know that the new GM is so much smarter and more efficient than the old, pre-50 billion taxpayer dollars GM.

All I can say is, if you do bring it back as a Chevy, lose the stupid hood scoops.
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something_unique_and_descriptive
07/15/09

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I do believe Fritz's brain is on the fritz.

It's the best reasonably priced car you've got you idiot! The development is already done, f*ck, 90+% of the tooling is done! Import the chassis from Aus, the Chevy styled body panels from wherever those are made, and assemble 'em here in the US, you'll be "creating jobs", and that'll look good to both your government overlords and the general public. The only new thing you'll have to make are the f*cking badges!
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MushyHeirloom
07/15/09

@something_unique_and_descripti...: Even the badges are expected to be the same as the Middle Eastern Caprice, right?
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engineerd
07/15/09

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At what point do we just start calling the G8 or G8 replacement "vaporware"?
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Ford Tempo Fanatic
07/15/09

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You say 'retired police cars' like its a bad thing. I am pretty envious of this guy from school who's got a ex-squad car Crown Victoria.
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Wes Siler
07/15/09

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GM: My heart is not a plaything.
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pauljones
07/15/09

@Wes Siler: That made me laugh.

Too many times has GM broken my heart in the past ten years: The death of the F-body in 2002, the death of the Astro van, the death of Pontiac, the death of the Northstar replacement, the death of a RWD Cadillac flagship, etc. And yet, somehow, am I still a GM man.

I think I might be a masochist.
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bmoreDLJ
07/15/09

@Wes Siler: Anyone else have a TNG character for an icon? Anyone?
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pauljones
07/15/09

@bmoreDLJ: Nope. Not me.
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bmoreDLJ
07/15/09

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"I am not a believer in re-branding and re-badging."

C'mon Fritz. The only version of this in the US was a Pontiac. Pontiac was a line of mostly re-branded and re-badged Chevys. Pontiac is dead. Besides the CTS, it's the best sedan you make. Are you really going to concede the full-size consumer market to Ford (Taurus) and Chrysler (300/Charger)?

If so...you are a stupidhead.
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ManicSquirrel is preparing for winter
07/15/09

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I feel like GM is missing the point. They heard that everyone hated their badge engineering and re-branding and re-badging....and we do...when they do it with crappy cars and sell multiple versions here (see Aveo/G3). But re-badging an awesome car from the Australians is quite a bit different, especially when it would only be sold under one brand here.

And to the naysayers that say the G8 didn't sell well enough, I would be willing to bet it if came over as a Chevy in the first place, it would have done well. The same goes for the GTO
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UncleBenny
07/15/09

@ManicSquirrel: I'd have to agree with the Chevy thing. Also, the G8 needed more advertising to get the word out, most people have no idea what the car is and that it can compete with BMW's. In fact, a lot of people seem to think its a G6.
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ManicSquirrel is preparing for winter
07/15/09

@UncleBenny:

Exactly. "The G8 is the 4 door G6 right????"
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SirNotAppearing
07/15/09

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That's OK. I prefer my large sedan to have a disabled spotlight and vinyl benches stained with dried perp-fluids anyways.
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Maxichamp
07/15/09

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Isn't turning a Holden into a Chevy police cruiser re-badging and re-branding?
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Syrax
07/15/09

@Maxichamp: Re-purposing too. That car was made to run away from the cops, not with them.
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YankBoffin
07/15/09

@Maxichamp: Beat me to it. They should be calling it a "Commodore" by his logic.
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Syrax
07/15/09

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So Ford should set the example and show GM they got their shit together and bring the Falcon. Preferably the FPVs I-6 and V8.

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Maxichamp
07/15/09

@Syrax: Mad Max figure sold separately. Batteries not included.
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Syrax
07/15/09

@Maxichamp: I'd make some real damage if I had a 310kW... wait, 415HP RC when I was growing up. Or now.
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cgarison
07/15/09

@Syrax: I would purchase an inline 6 Falcon in a heartbeat. It would be extremely sweet with an aftermarket supercharger.
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Syrax
07/15/09

@cgarison: That powerplant should be between the Mustang GT and the Shelby. V6, V8, Super-6, Super-8. It's perfect.
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UncleBenny
07/15/09

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Maybe all these G8 fans should have bought G8's in the first place so GM didn't shut Pontiac down.
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FormerlyPreferredCustomer
07/15/09

@UncleBenny: I wanted to, but GM took so long in bringing the GXP to the States that I didn't have time to do so.
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mwood10
07/15/09

@UncleBenny: Don't look at me, I did buy one. Actually, I think this is great news: I get the "looks like a cop car" benefits of a Crown Vic, but (almost) all the fun driving experience of an M5. Hopefully this will also lead to lots of cheap parts that don't have to be shipped in from Australia.
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DoctorNine
07/15/09

@FormerlyPreferredCustomer: "..I wanted to, but GM took so long in bringing the GXP to the States that I didn't have time to do so..."

Yeah, that was my problem too. Then, when I finally found a G8 GXP in the right color, and went to go look at one, I drove up in my R32, and the brilliant salesman didn't think I deserved a road test. Tried to push me off on a GT. I had to talk to his manager to get access to the actual vehicle. By the time I went through all the gates, I wasn't really all that interested anymore.

Too much drama.
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WilliamG.
07/15/09

@DoctorNine's D9 Cat: And that's a HUGE part of GM's problem that nobody is really talking about all that much.
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WilliamG.
07/15/09

@UncleBenny: Maybe the economy shouldn't have tanked when it did so I could have gotten a better job to be able to afford payments and insurance on a G8. Alas, all I can afford is a well-used car, and the G8 never got the chance to be my next car.
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pauljones
07/15/09

@WilliamG.: You and me both.
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UncleBenny
07/15/09

@mwood10: So did I. This will be pretty great for parts down the road if it does come back in some form, even if its just a cop car.
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RedWire75
07/15/09

@UncleBenny:

I bought two. How much more do I need to do?
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UncleBenny
07/15/09

@RedWire75: I think you're good.
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theeastbaykid
07/15/09

@UncleBenny: Or, GM could have a competitive high-volume seller (ie, not the Cobalt, and not the Trailblazer), that pads the bottom line so that low-volume cars like the GXP can be offered despite relatively meager sales. It's not like BMW makes most of its cash on the M5....
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