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    GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    R. "Wert" Kelly said he "don't see nothing wrong- with a little bump and grind."
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    Image of .357 .357
    07/14/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: No pee jokes. Well done.
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    Image of WilliamG. WilliamG.
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    So they never hooned the test mules? Crap, I figured dumping the clutch at 5000 RPM would be the first thing even the most geeky of test engineers would do.
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    Image of skitter skitter
    07/14/09

    @WilliamG.: It's possible that drivers who know what they are doing are unable to recreate the worst a vehicle will see from a horrible driver. Complete idiocy can be difficult to anticipate, much less simulate fully.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    British Leyland and Lucas Industries.



    Just replace "British" with "American" and "Lucas" with "Tremec".
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    Image of junkman junkman
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    The new GM: "Same crappy quality; we're just not denying it anymore."
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    Image of tenbeers tenbeers
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    Also, commenting is completely and utterly broken in Google Chrome.
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    Image of tenbeers tenbeers
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    It is my understanding the fault is in the output shafts of a batch of Tremec transmissions.
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    Image of Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face
    07/14/09

    @tenbeers:



    And by "batch" you mean them all...
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    Image of tenbeers tenbeers
    07/14/09

    @Tossed Accordtaco salad over Malibu:The same gearbox is installed in Vipers, Z06s, GT500s, Challengers, G8 GXPs, CTS-Vs, HSVs, etc.



    I know some Challengers and Z06s have had similar problems. Maybe Tremec quality is slipping. Who knows.
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    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    Launch control to mayor Tom...
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    Here's an idea: dismantle the "launch control."

    If you can't launch it with your own hands and feet, then you don't get to launch.
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    07/14/09

    @Novaload Misses Murilee: absolutely. Launch control is really for automatics - defeats the point entirely of having a clutch pedal.
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    Car thieves around the USA, rejoice!
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    Transmissions Toast After Lunched by Launch.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    Really? My launch control has gotten better over the years thanks in part to doing it manually
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    Image of .357 .357
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    Camaros' transmissions grind when launched enthusiastically from the line.
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    Image of Captain Liverspots Captain Liverspots
    07/14/09

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    First the GT-R, now the Camaro...behold the power of Wert the Magic Dragon.
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    07/14/09

    @Fading Captain: Next stop, R8.
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    07/14/09

    @Fading Captain: I dub this new malady Wertorrhea.
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    07/14/09

    @SCROGGS!!!: I'm glad I'm home cause I LOL'd.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    07/14/09

    @SCROGGS!!!: Are we required by law to notify his other partners?
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    07/14/09

    @SCROGGS!!!: Wertpes?
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    07/14/09

    In reply to GM Temporarily Halts Manual Transmission Camaro SS Shipments
    Yeah, but at least GM isn't trying to void their warranties, and is actually being proactive in admitting that there is a problem and trying to find a solution to it as quickly as they can.

    Try getting that kind of reaction out of Nissan, or any other car company any more.

    There are still a lot of problems with GM, but it seems that they have got the transparency and customer service thing fixed pretty well.
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    07/14/09

    @pauljones: I agree with you but I think they're only being transparent because they can't get away anymore by being opaque.
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    Image of elwood elwood
    07/14/09

    @pauljones: I thought Nissan had redone the launch control feature such that it shouldn't result in broken transmissions anymore. And this doesn't say anything about warranties either.



    But hey, maybe now we're learning that launch control on a high powered car is a potential recipe for disaster for anyone, and not just Nissan.
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    07/14/09

    @elwood: Nissan only did that after struggling and denying that it was their fault that people were using one of their most bragged about features.
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    07/14/09

    @elwood: I thought Nissan had solved that problem by removing the launch control altogether, but only after giving owners of its new-found supercar for the masses one hell of a collective headache without first stating that the conditions of the warranty upfront.

    Granted, you are correct, launch control is always a potential trouble spot on high-powered cars. I am not blaming Nissan for that; I do, however, criticize Nissan for the horrible way in which they handled it. And, if memory serves, any use of the launch control on the Nissan whatsoever voided the warranty, regardless of whether or not it damaged the transmission.

    The same can't be said for the Camaro, and my guess is that if GM was being as sheisty about its warranties as Nissan, we would have heard about it the day it happened; such is the scrutiny that GM is presently under.
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    07/14/09

    @Syrax: Plus, the M5, Veyron, most Porsches and Lambos got LC and there are no problems with them.
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    07/14/09

    @pauljones: The thing with Nissan's LC is that it wasn't a launch control. They shouldn't turn the stability control off. That's why it voided the warranty. The new one works with the SC on and revs to 3000rpm (vs the old 4500rpm) to avoid transmission crap out.
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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    07/14/09

    @pauljones: They're definitely on the right track, but it's going to take a bit more than a Malibu and an admitted mistake to undo 30 years of dicking around with the car-buying public.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    07/14/09

    @theeastbaykid: Agreed. I'm just glad to know that they are on the right track, if nothing else.
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