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Detroit, 8:51 AM
Mon Nov 9
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Not convinced, it's a chevy, it's a gm, and it leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
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Shop it against a Rav-4. At least that way you don't look (as much) like a hairdresser.
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Sheesh, it's better than a minivan.
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In imagination land:
In the real world:
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Wagon Wagon Wagon Wagon Wagon.
You got the message?
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i don't believe it.
"The thirstier V6 with all-wheel-drive returned 21.8 under mixed use"
not with a leaden foot, don't believe it.
"and the four-cylinder with all-wheel drive managed 23 MPG."
unless your "mixed" is much different than mine, don't believe it.
06/09/09
Are you calling Ben a liar?
Are you accusing GM of fiddling with the on board computer?
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These guys at Jalopnik seem to have a lot of journalistic integrity (a rarity these days). I doubt they falsify their numbers. And if it was a mistake, they would clarify it.
06/10/09
i don't get mileage that good in my Mazda3.
my leaden foot is really, really leaden i guess.
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I'd buy the smaller '09 Forrester any day before this thing. Unfortunately Subaru elected not to offer the 2.5XT models with a stick in the USA. Idiots.
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We need to go public with this!
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[www.speedsportlife.com]
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Really though, I'm thinking this is just absolutely poitively ho-hum. Perhaps that has more to do with the segment as a whole though.
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So even if it does sell well in the US, it will never be able to make the same kind of profit for the company as the japanese equivalents do.
And since the car market outside the US is growing at a much faster pace, this difference will become more and more noticeable in the next few years.
In a nutshell, this is the main problem with the US car industry. If they want to survive they have to build cars that can be sold anywhere in the world.
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Also, maybe it's just me, but I think Chevy has the cheapest-looking tailights in the industry.
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That said, I think there's some sort of intermural competition to see who can design the ugliest compact SUV and get away with it. CR-V and Rav4 make for tough competition, but BMW won't be outdone with the X1 coming along soon!
06/09/09
My measure of cheap build quality: 2.4L (188hp) yet only 1500 lbs towing capacity... (Above mentioned Subaru less hp: 170 but can do more, towing 2400 lbs... Why? Cheap build quality of engine/trans. is only possible answer).
06/09/09
Besides, a Forester doesn't get this good of mileage. One way to do that is to lower rotating mass in things like the transmission and differentials.
Most buyers in this segment aren't interested in towing, anyway.
Just FYI, I'd probably still buy the Forester.
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/carry the one...
//I guess I'm keeping my truck.
GM has been on the long and difficult road to improved public perception in several segments for several years. Bankruptcy isn't going to help matters, but hopefully when they get there, they don't rest on their laurels and let the competition pass them back.