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Jalopnik 
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Wait, what?
03/20/09
Shit, if you strapped the engines of every car I've owned into 1 vehicle, it still wouldn't equal 570 horsepower. Besides, the Z28 name has been irreversibly tarnished by garish tape stripes and mullets.
03/20/09
I remember when a good friend of mine from high school returned from his tour in Viet Nam as a helicopter pilot. He told us he wanted to buy a car but he wasn't familiar with what was available. Me and my buddies looked at each other and said in unison: "Z-28!" So he called around and found a Z-28 for sale at a dealership. I still remember. We walked into the back warehouse. It was completely empty except for one light grey Z-28 in the corner. He bought it on the spot, drove it over to a local tire dealer and exchanged the stock wheels and tires for some mags and glass-belted radials (the hot setup at the time). Then, he went off to be stationed at an Army base in North Carolina. He wrote a few times before we lost contact with him. He loved his Z-28 and the twisty roads in the area. He and his Army buddies would go out road racing. The cops got to know them and left them alone, they were vets, after all.
Another thing I remember about that original was that it had no mufflers. There was a section of exhaust pipe that was sort of corrugated. At low rpms, the corrugation broke up the pulses of exhaust and made a reasonably "quiet" note. But at speed, the corrugation was ineffective and the exhaust was effectively wide open. Man, did that thing scream!
All other Z-28s may have been good cars but the original was the best, no doubt. A factory hot rod if there ever was one.
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then it will not slip on the supercharger pulleys
CARRY ON!
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So we won't have a $50k Camaro called a Z28. We never had one anyway.
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Nope.
Any change to the drive train, etc will result in both new design costs and most likely new tooling. Not to mention validation and calibration is all redone top to bottom. Then you have to crash test everything again, it just adds up, fast.
So yes, you could build a few mules for way less, but actually getting them production ready, with robust parts isn't gonna happen for cheap.
Do you think that GM wants to kill this if they could afford not to? What is your explanation for motive then if the numbers are a lie?
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Once the Camaro production line gets cranking, we're going to see Yenko, COPO, and IROC homages that will make the cancelled Z28 look like the Cavalier z24 you had in college.
As the convertible was engineered along side the coupe, I have no doubt that it will become available in a year or so, the economy willing.
03/20/09
/drool
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How is my mullet going to look windswept when I emerge triumphantly from my Camaro after a raw and vigorous burnout...only to find the acid smoke if burning brain cells and rotten Chinese food that fell out the door-less backseat during my shenanigans?
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I just had an idea..
Yous guys know about this kinda shit, with peoples in all kinds places...
How much do CARS actually cost.
Like what is the price to engineer, design, build a car.
Preferably a standard:
Like the Silverado
F-1fitty
Accord
Fusion
Malibu.
What is the going price to make a car from scratch?
And how is it (stupid question time) that Fitty mil. is expensive?
Did they spend more than that to engineer the Lambda, Lambda, lambda Lambda quads.
Shit knows they spent more on that to build the failed GTO, and Solstice / Sky twins..?
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Variants... er... vary. It's highly dependent on volume and content.
Fifty million is cheap for a variant program, but GM is strapped so they're cutting everything they can.
03/20/09
SirNotAppearing is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn -
Top Gear serves its own needs, don't misserve your own needs. Feed it up a knock,
speed, ping no, horsepower no. Fiesta movement clatter with fear of height,
down height. Wire in a fire, represent the Jalopnik in a music festival and a blog site. Left her, wasn't coming in a hurry with Megan Fox
breathing down your neck. Star by star commenters baffled, trump, tethered
crop. Look at that fast plane! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
slow load, but it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. Chevy serves its
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
03/20/09
My comment now means nothing. You are too clever for us. Go back to your home on Clever Island. Jerk.
03/20/09
@wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx:
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"Let's see here; Oh it's a GM topic (filters for GM) and it's about Camaros (filters models) and its tragic (no filter option) Ah what do we have here?! Yes my R.E.M. spin off should fit this topic just fine. Copy, paste...alrighty COTD let's get it on!"
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I don't have a spreadsheet of ideas (although that is a *fantastic* idea). Just ADHD and a desire to procrastinate.
Which is why I'm still at work on a Friday afternoon when I should be home.
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No, but your significant other can. And probably will.
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I never thought Id actually say this... (not in my life time).
I think its a fuckin shame, that the conv and Z28 wont make it to production. (Also sucks that the top is being engineered by a german conpany also..)
But I actually have [www.diecastfast.com]
And it would be AWESOME to be driving that around..
But then again.. it is what it is.
03/20/09
Maybe they just couldn't find any domestic artisans. Is there a Seamsters Union?
03/20/09
The worst part....
Look at the fit and finish of the Camaro in the shot.. my god, thats awful.
Talk about panel GAPS. Ya got a square slot, with a round bulb, and ya got a squircilly (todays new word) adapter shiny thingy attempting to keep the light from spilling into the spaces for snot on both sides.
Even better..
The gaps on the nose cone against the body of the vehicle.
Also nice to know, that they can put a badge on evenly.
03/20/09
Normally I'd say you were being sarcastic, but for some reason I think you're being serious about criticizing the panel gaps on a 30-year old car.