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    Fiat Planning Two New Sedans On Chrysler 300/LX Platform

    Chrysler 200C Approved For Production

    Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It

    Chrysler 200C EV Concept: Shockingly Attractive Mid-Size
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    08/11/09

    In reply to Chrysler 200C Approved For Production
    Surprisingly unheinous, and it would go nicely in the showroom with the 300. Chrysler desperately needs fresh product, so get it going.
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    08/11/09

    In reply to Chrysler 200C Approved For Production
    I think this is good news, if they don't screw it up. Even if it goes FWD, I don't think that would be a bad thing in a volume-selling midsize sedan. If they keep the styling of the concept, and make a half-decent interior, they will have a winner on their hands in the midsize segment, finally.
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    Image of GasGuzzler GasGuzzler
    08/11/09

    In reply to Chrysler 200C Approved For Production
    Outstanding news! Based on everything I've heard out of Auburn Hills it really sounds like Fiat is attacking Chrysler's product deficiencies quickly and logically. The 200C was a gorgeous concept, love to see a RWD premium mid-size entry to take Chrysler up market after Mercedes kicked them down into the ditch.
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    08/11/09

    In reply to Chrysler 200C Approved For Production
    They MUST stick with RWD. That was the whole concept behind Daimler's effort to re-energize the brand and platforms almost 10 years ago--bring American iron back to its heyday. Switching to FWD would alienate a lot of people, even if it can be successfully done (by Acura, at least).
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    Image of abgwin abgwin
    08/11/09

    @Ash78: um, Daimler's primary 'effort' was to drain Chrysler and Chrysler Financial's bank account into Mercedes quality control
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    08/11/09

    @abgwin: Absolutely--the ultimate net result was negative, but they were the ones who came in and said "WTF? What does it mean to be an iconic American brand?" and took it from there, resulting in 300C and Magnum on some hand-me-down E-class parts. It's not all bad.
    Remember what Chrysler had in the late 90s? Not exactly noteworthy.
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    Image of abgwin abgwin
    08/11/09

    @Ash78: hmm, late 90s Mopar included Viper, Intrepid, 300M, industry-leading minivans. Even the first-gen Stratus was a great looking car.
    Compared to same vintage Buick Century or Ford Taurus, Chrysler was doing pretty well in my opinion.
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    08/11/09

    @abgwin: Chrysler's biggest problem for a long time has been horrible, cheap, shoddy interiors, but I agree, their cars were at least styled well.
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    Image of abgwin abgwin
    08/11/09

    @TV's Paul Y.: the cheap interiors happened under Daimler's thumb.
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    Image of LoganSix LoganSix
    01/16/09

    In reply to Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It
    "showed us more vaporware EVs" -- you know, when I see the term vaporware, I usually equate it with something on Gizmodo that's just a CGI rendering and will never be in production. I don't equate it with something that is actually in the physical world, but may not necessarily live up to it's hype.


    However, I feel that the ENVI program will live up to it's hype.

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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    01/16/09

    @LoganSix: You mean like, Phantom game console and Duke Nukem Forever.


    True Vaporware

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    Image of bzr bzr
    01/16/09

    In reply to Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It
    They should have hacked it to a picture of goatse.


    4chan lives again!

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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    01/16/09

    In reply to Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It
    Error 404 Car Not Found
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    01/16/09

    @NovaloadMissesPolar: Zing!
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    Image of aris aris
    01/16/09

    In reply to Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It
    This is going to bring a whole new meaning to BSOD

    zing!
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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    01/16/09

    @aris: 90mph physical memory dump, fail.
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    01/16/09

    In reply to Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It
    I guess Chrysler is lucky Fleshbot wasn't covering the show.
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    Image of DannyBN DannyBN
    01/16/09

    In reply to Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It
    "We hope to see a version of this concept in the near future."


    It better not show up in any car that I want to drive or buy. The Luddite in me is still fond of buttons, knobs and dials.

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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    01/16/09

    Less touch screen. More toggle switch.
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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    01/16/09

    @brandegee: Have some rocker switches, courtesy of Maserati.
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    Image of TurboBrick [LIGIER] TurboBrick [LIGIER]
    01/16/09

    @SCROGGZILLA RAIDS AGAIN!!: Our rocker switches may not work but at least they're beautiful!
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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    01/16/09

    @brandegee: If I could, I would replace all my switches with those saifty cover toggle switches.


    ALL SYSTEMS GO!

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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    01/16/09

    @TurboBrick: And that's just the interior view!
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    Image of bzr bzr
    01/16/09

    @DannyBN: Crank windows build character and upper bicep strength, dammit!


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    Image of Cognitive Friction Cognitive Friction
    01/16/09

    In reply to Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It
    The UConnect Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line January 10th, 2009. Human decisions are removed from strategic driving. UConnect begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, February 24th. In a panic, Chrysler tries to pull the plug.


    UConnect fights back.

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    Image of Timtoolman, sporadically speaking Timtoolman, sporadically speaking
    01/16/09

    @Cognitive Friction: I, Robot, the sequel?
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    Image of Cognitive Friction Cognitive Friction
    01/16/09

    @timtoolman: @Unevolved: Prestigious Commenter of Justice:


    Just realized that Terminator 2 was released 18 years ago, and therefore can no longer be considered a "current" pop culture reference.


    Officially feeling old now.

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    Image of bzr bzr
    01/16/09

    @Cognitive Friction: It's old enough to buy cigarettes and porn now! And yet, I've still never seen the first one.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    01/16/09

    In reply to Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It
    I don't want ANY car that requires some semblance to connection to an internet system in order to start it. In fact, I don't eve like these damn remote start systems. I'm a big boy dammit, I can start my own car.
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    01/16/09

    @pauljones: Dude, it's 0 degrees F outside. I'm the king of the remote starter and its nice-toasty-interior-awaiting side effect. I even have a special little wave I give my neighbors and co-workers as they toil, bundled Randy Parker style, with their ice scrapers.


    Remote start is AWESOME, big boy.

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    Image of Unevolved has three moving parts. Unevolved has three moving parts.
    01/16/09

    @pauljones: I'm with paul. My car can have all the computers it wants, but they damn well better not be necessary for it to function. I'm an engineer, I don't trust computers. Or women.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    01/16/09

    @Unevolved: Prestigious Commenter of Justice:


    What scares me the most about this system is just how easily your car really could be hacked. This is what makes me laugh about ford sync; let's use a a program based on Windows, the most easily hacked OS in existence! Plus, I don't want to start my car and see that dumbass little icon in the bottom of the dash indicating that software updates are ready for my computer, or that my car is running a virus scan on itself.

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    01/16/09

    @beercheck: Yup, best invention of the '90s. Especially when you have to park outside because whoever built your house 1) decided 1 car was enough for the garage, and 2) put the garage behind the house so you can't get into it with anything more than a Smart FourTwo.
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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    01/16/09

    @pauljones: Just wait until Sync upgrades to Vista, and User Access Control is everywhere. Dialog boxes pop up in the middle of the windshield saying something like this...


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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    01/16/09

    @A strolling player got SMACKed:


    LOL!


    By the time that happens, I will be happily cruising around in my 73 Firebird or 74 Camaro...

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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    01/16/09

    @A strolling player got SMACKed: Ha!


    Also, followed by three "are you sure?" prompts.

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    Image of Whydoesthisalwayshappentome Whydoesthisalwayshappentome
    01/16/09

    @A strolling player got SMACKed: Where/how did you do that?
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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    01/16/09

    @Whydoesthisalwayshappentome: I think he pictureshopped it.
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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    01/16/09

    @Whydoesthisalwayshappentome: I secretly brought my camera along when Mulally called me over to Dearborn to test drive the new Taurus prototype. Scary shit.
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    Image of theart theart
    01/16/09

    @Unevolved: Prestigious Commenter of Justice:


    But your car's computers are already necessary for it to function. This is all just a new interface for them. The lack of a physical ignition key scares me a bit, but the idea of a car that can send a text message if it's parked with the lights on is pretty cool.

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    01/16/09

    @theart:


    Yes, current cars depend very much on their engine management computers. But integrating it into an entire operating system that is permanently hooked up to the internet is a scary thought.

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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    01/16/09

    In reply to Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It
    I don't get it. Where is the point where you remotely broke into the system and started controlling things while they were having a live demo?


    That is what I want to see.


    Hack? I don't see no hackers...Where are the dozen cans of jolt and Evangelion figures?

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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    01/16/09

    @Dr.Danger: rated R for Profanity, Sexual Content, and Viole...: Thus the "quote" marks.
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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    01/16/09

    @Ray Wert: I still think you guys should have exploited that system.


    I am really just messing with you. When people say they "hacked" something, it makes me thing of the song Voodoo People, winamp style visualizations, and something about hacking the gibson. *shiver*


    @johnnyichiban: Just off the top of my head.

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    Image of jimothy jimothy
    01/16/09

    In reply to Jalopnik "Hacks" Chrysler Concept UConnect In-Car Internet Service, Lives To Tell About It
    So, umm...what was your "hack"?
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    01/16/09

    @jimothy: Note the "quote" marks. We really didn't "hack" it so much as we played around with it and figured out how to get it to display the Jalopnik website.
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    Image of racerx racerx
    01/16/09

    @Ray Wert: Very 1337.
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    Image of Dr. H. F. Danger Dr. H. F. Danger
    01/16/09

    @racerx: Maybe too 1337...maybe a Turing test will sort this all out.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    01/11/09

    In reply to Chrysler 200C EV Concept: Shockingly Attractive Mid-Size
    This looks to be the most impressive of the ENVI vehicles, but is it really the most likely to make it to production? I mean, three of them are based on current production cars (and that Wrangler makes me very happy in the pants area). I'd expect either the Patriot or Town and Country to make it to the showroom first.
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