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    Image of Stoatmaster Stoatmaster
    04/07/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    Was I the only person to read your last 3 platform variations as "Tourettes/Jessica/Rabbit"?


    On a lighter note, these vehicles have proved very popular on this side of the pond, and certainly look very smart in the metal. Haven't driven one, but my friend Amanda says that they cut the mustard. So to speak.

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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    Oh Germany, are you still mad about the war?
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    Wow, I feel like I just got dumped on my birthday. That was cold. Not even going out for drinks and getting let down easy.


    What was it Baby? Is it me? I'll change. Remember how I always put fresh flowers in the vase on the convertible Bug dash? It can be like that all over again. Just slip me a little Scirocco...

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    Image of UnlimitedRevs UnlimitedRevs
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    And Volvo pulls the C30 out of the guillotine..."You're a lucky little Swedish Hatch..."
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    Image of General Halfshaftery General Halfshaftery
    04/06/09

    @UnlimitedRevs:
    Funny you should mention, i walked by a Mini and a C30 parked beside each other last week and thought the C30 was a much more appealing package.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    04/06/09

    @General Halfshaftery: I was a huge fan of the C30 until I sat in one at the LA Auto Show and realized the pedals didn't allow for heel-toe downshifts.
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    Image of GTI_MK5 GTI_MK5
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    Just sell that as the GTI. 99% of the public wont remember the Scirocco anyway. Its unique looking enough that i can stand on its own and will give buyers a better feeling because they wont just be "buying up a tarted up economy car".


    All of the major manufactures do this, Rabbit GTI, Civic Si, Mazdaspeed 3, etc. Making the GTI its own model might get people interested in the car that wouldnt normally want to drive a rabbit.


    with that said...i have a MK5 GTI and love every mile of it.

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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    04/06/09

    @GTI_MK5: Are you saying the Civic Si and Mazdaspeed3 are more differentiated from their base models than the GTI? I was thinking it was the other way around--the GTI doesn't have any Golf/Rabbit badging and seems to be even more "standalone" than the other two cars.


    I think I said once that they should kill the R32--that's the car that needs more difference from the Rabbit--and bring the Scirocco here in its place.

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    Image of GTI_MK5 GTI_MK5
    04/06/09

    @Ash78:


    im saying they are all really just started up economy cars. which is just fine...but if the GTI becomes a stand alone model with a distinct look it will have more cache etc.


    I will let this slide...but if and only if they bring the Bluesport Roadster here with the 2.0T and a 6spd manual.

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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    04/06/09

    @GTI_MK5: I see where you were going, makes sense.


    On the flipside, though, you'd think the Mitsu Lancer Evo and WRX STi might suffer from that...but more akin to what you're saying, those companies have really differentiated them from the 1/3-price econoboxes that they're based on (R32, more or less same thing).

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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    04/06/09

    @GTI_MK5: I think the GTI is just fine as it is--it's been a Golf with a habanero up its ass for many decades, and anything called GTI should be just that. Bring this here, keep calling it the Scirocco, and that's good.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    I think they're trying to sucker us into buying more Tiguans.


    It's not going to work. Really.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/06/09

    @F*ckingPlushroom: I suspect the limited production of four-door GTIs is intended to do the same.


    For that matter, the "NO MANUAL FOUR-DOOR RABBITS FOR YOU!" edict probably shot 'em in the foot too.

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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    In return for this slight, we ought to export ALL of our Dodge Nitros to Germany.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/06/09

    @Alfisted: Please do.
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    Image of .357 .357
    04/06/09

    @Alfisted:While we're at it, all the damn Sebrings too.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    04/06/09

    @.357:Half Man-Half Amazing: Except for the ones that look like this, I think they're kind of cool...


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    Image of .357 .357
    04/06/09

    @Alfisted:

    I was thinking more along the lines of:
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    04/06/09

    @Alfisted: I don't think Hague will take that lightly.
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    (Voice of Tony Montana) YOU WANT TO PLAY ROUGH? OKAY.
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    Image of .357 .357
    04/06/09

    @bmoreDLJ:SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND! Classic movie.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    This does not please George.


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    04/06/09

    @engineerd: Damn rolling up my comments. I'll get you Nibbles!
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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    Axe the 2-door GTI and provide us with the four-door for sweet-Jesus fast practicality and the Scirocco for the mmmm-sexy.


    Cool thing: Safari's spell checker recognises 'Scirocco' as a word. Nice!

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    04/06/09

    @A strolling player is: Gold Member!: It's a real word.

    1

    a: a hot dust-laden wind from the Libyan deserts that blows on the northern Mediterranean coast chiefly in Italy, Malta, and Sicily

    b: a warm moist oppressive southeast wind in the same regions


    2: a hot or warm wind of cyclonic origin from an arid or heated region

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    Image of How Wankelin' Got His Sig Back How Wankelin' Got His Sig Back
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    VWOA does this with damn near everything. It's the reason we didn't get the A1. It's the reason we didn't get the TFSI engine, too. We don't get ALOT of things due to "it would compete with ourselves".


    VW Group makes some great cars. They just have TERRIBLE market decisions. They're sort of the opposite universe GM. Instead of making shit cars and marketing genius, they make genius cars and marketing shit.

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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    04/06/09

    @Wankelin' For A Rotary: I mostly agree. But I never got my hopes up for either this car or the tfsi engine. The former is just way too close to their existing cars, and the latter is driven primarily by European taxation.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    Me to VW: Fuck you!
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    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    thats ok, we like our rearward visibility anyhow
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    Image of Syrax Syrax
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    I don't see a reason in this. Isn't the Scirocco more expensive? If they're willing to get the Scirocco over the cheaper GTI isn't that better for VW?
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    04/06/09

    @Syrax: The Scirocco is actually *cheaper*, at least in the UK. But, yeah, VW could slap a premium on US market Sciroccos and get away with it, probably.


    I'm personally surprised that VW dealers aren't up in arms about the loss of new product that would so clearly appeal to the aftermarket crowd.

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    Image of War2d2: Secure In His Own Manhood War2d2: Secure In His Own Manhood
    04/06/09

    @brandegee: Well, there's a difference between what they charge and what we'll pay. Especially now, with the economy in the pooper, I think the Scirocco would have sat on the dealers' lots moldering away.
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    Image of günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
    04/07/09

    @War2d2: Secure In His Own Manhood: that's why you make them special order/options.... not car-lot-seagulls........

    let those who want it buy it as an option.. don't stock the lots with them... and yeah... charge a premium... i'd pay the premium for any hot hatch that europe gets and we don't........... as long as i can option it how i want...

    i won't be able to buy one off of a lot in indiana... and i don't want to... but i wanna buy one.........
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    Image of .357 .357
    04/06/09

    In reply to VW To North America: No Scirocco For You!
    Yes! Instead of a beautiful Scirocco, we get the Tourag! Who needs a little Euro hatch, when we get a VWayenne SUV!
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