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    2010 Toyota Camry Fuel Economy Increased To 33 MPG, Matches Chevy Malibu

    2009 Pontiac G6 Coupe
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    Image of Boosted Lego Wagon Boosted Lego Wagon
    01/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Toyota Camry Fuel Economy Increased To 33 MPG, Matches Chevy Malibu
    In terms of Yawns Per Gallon, they're all winners in my book.
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    Image of jduffy13 jduffy13
    01/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Toyota Camry Fuel Economy Increased To 33 MPG, Matches Chevy Malibu
    I like the Camry.


    It looks good in that color.

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    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    01/27/09

    @jduffy13: ...dont make me take away your jalopnik™ brand friendship heart
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    Image of Cognitive Friction Cognitive Friction
    01/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Toyota Camry Fuel Economy Increased To 33 MPG, Matches Chevy Malibu
    Two things surprised me in that article:


    1. You can get a Camry with a stick?

    2. Dodge still makes the Avenger?

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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    01/27/09

    @Cognitive Friction: I saw a brand-new Camry with a stick when I worked at the Toyota dealership. That big, ugly, cylindrical gray stickshift sticking out of the console looked so out of place, in all the right ways. For a minute, I wanted it, as a big fuck-you to the automaticisation of our poor automobile.
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    01/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Toyota Camry Fuel Economy Increased To 33 MPG, Matches Chevy Malibu
    I just find the whole current "mpg wars" a bit lame. Economy is important, sure. But the sliding scale of compromise is very, very short in this country and much of the legislation isn't helping matters. All I'm saying is that if we're suddenly supposed to care about mpg, it would behoove us to look around a little bit for some benchmarking, rather than patting ourselves on the back for something a lot of the world would scoff at.


    The US is the Jamaican bobled team of fuel efficiency, but worse--you can't script a movie out of the situation with John Candy and Doug E. Doug. But the Camry could fit four John Candies in it, which is nice.

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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    01/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Toyota Camry Fuel Economy Increased To 33 MPG, Matches Chevy Malibu
    Only 22mpg city? Geez, another instance of the disadvantaged inner-city underclass getting screwed.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    01/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Toyota Camry Fuel Economy Increased To 33 MPG, Matches Chevy Malibu
    So the petty displacement war his been, um, displaced by the petty MPG war?


    Your modern world frightens and confuses me.

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    Image of Parramore Parramore
    01/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Toyota Camry Fuel Economy Increased To 33 MPG, Matches Chevy Malibu
    If almost every car can exceed the EPA estimates when driven correctly, why are the ratings treated like gospel? Or a better question is, why do the estimates suck so badly, even after a re-tool?
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    01/27/09

    @Parramore64: They're complete crap now, IMO. The old ones, in a sense, were like a challenge:


    "You too can achieve this with good driving"


    But we Americans no longer enjoy challenges, apparently. The new EPA ratings are like No Child Left Behind meets "Yes We Can"

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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    01/27/09

    @Ash78: The new figures are the equivalent of the blue participant ribbons - I certainly got plenty as a kid.
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    Image of Timtoolman, sporadically speaking Timtoolman, sporadically speaking
    01/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Toyota Camry Fuel Economy Increased To 33 MPG, Matches Chevy Malibu
    Wasn't it just a couple of years back that some of the imports were over-rating their gas mileage? This is incremental progress at best.
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    Image of fodder650 fodder650
    01/27/09

    @Timtoolman, now with power tools!: In 2007 or 2008 they changed how they rated gas mileage for the same reason that they changed from engine horsepower at the engine instead of at the back wheels.


    It wasnt just the foreign brands. But the Prius was probably the cause of changing the city cycle. I think the change ended up being 8% to the mileage numbers to all cars

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    Image of PetroSapien PetroSapien
    01/27/09

    @fodder650: I'd bet you gat a Hell of a different number if you change from measuring HP at the enging to the back wheels... especially on a Civic, Accord, Corolla, Camry, Malibu, Impala, Focus, Tarus, Calibur, ... now, when you get to the Charger, I'd bet they're a lot closer.
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    01/27/09

    @PetroSapien: Proofread! But perhaps you should begin by giving a more careful reading of the preceding comments and stop dropping non sequiturs.
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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    01/27/09

    @fodder650: Horsepower was measured at the engine before and is measured at the engine now. SAE changed the measurement standard protocol, somehow, but the basic principles are the same.


    In much the same way, EPA changed their testing procedure for fuel economy. Cars were all getting much better ratings than they perhaps should get because the cycle did not include idling or air conditioner use, and the highway test was conducted at 55 mph. This has all been changed for the new standard, and EPA's numbers are much more accurate in the real world.

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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    01/27/09

    In reply to 2010 Toyota Camry Fuel Economy Increased To 33 MPG, Matches Chevy Malibu
    If you can't be the Gold Standard, at least you can be the Opel Standard?


    Hooray, 33! Now if we're really serious, we can make some power compromises, allow clean diesels and more FSI gas engines, and see 38-40mpg, no problem (0-60 in more than 10 seconds?! Are you kidding?). But it'd probably be better if we just let the states decide how to accomplish this, right?

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    Image of mikedrawcar mikedrawcar
    01/27/09

    @Ash78: and then, afterwards, California can tell me how to build my house, and raise my children, and....
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