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    Image of Nitrous Oxide Nitrous Oxide
    11/25/08

    In reply to Top Ten Reveals of the 2008 LA Auto Show
    What is he lusting over?



    I tried hard to figure out. I give up.

     Reply
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    11/25/08

    @Nitrous Oxide: I'm pretty sure it's an older version of the JALOPNIK nameplate.
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    Image of Solo_Racer Solo_Racer
    11/25/08

    @Nitrous Oxide: There's an Audi R8 reflected and also what looks like the Jag "Leaper."
     Reply
    Solo_Racer was starred Solo_Racer was unstarred
    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    11/25/08

    @Nitrous Oxide: dude its the i, robit car

     Reply
    damnelantra™ was starred damnelantra™ was unstarred
    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    11/25/08

    @Solo_Racer: Son of a gun. I totally didn't see that until you pointed it out.
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    Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was starred Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was unstarred
    Image of johnnyichiban johnnyichiban
    11/25/08

    In reply to Top Ten Reveals of the 2008 LA Auto Show
    How do you guys determine these "top ten reveals" lists? I am curious to know how an electric MINI bested a RWD car with less weight and more power.


    Please don't tell me its because of Wert has the jones for LA's deputy mayor.

     Reply
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    11/25/08

    @johnnyichiban: Just a guess but, page traffic?
     Reply
    Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was starred Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was unstarred
    Image of IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE!
    11/25/08

    @johnnyichiban: Max torque from 1RPM on up would be my guess, don't be hatin' on the electrics.
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    Image of DannyBN DannyBN
    11/24/08

    In reply to Top Ten Reveals of the 2008 LA Auto Show
    ?


     Reply
    DannyBN was starred DannyBN was unstarred
    Image of 1300ccsoffury 1300ccsoffury
    11/24/08

    @DannyBN: Every time I see that d-bag picture, I wonder if those guys ever considered that they'd become a highly-mocked Internet meme?
     Reply
    1300ccsoffury was starred 1300ccsoffury was unstarred
    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    11/25/08

    @DannyBN: Jalopnik rollin', they hatin'...
     Reply
    Ray Wert was starred Ray Wert was unstarred
    Image of IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE!
    11/25/08

    @DannyBN: This is what I get for not reading further into the thread before posting...
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    IN THE FACE! was starred IN THE FACE! was unstarred
    Image of IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE!
    11/25/08

    @DannyBN: Hehehe, I just realized that it looks like Jalop guy stole their sucker, now they are pouting.


    *giggle*

     Reply
    IN THE FACE! was starred IN THE FACE! was unstarred
    Image of mehugtree mehugtree
    11/24/08

    In reply to Top Ten Reveals of the 2008 LA Auto Show
    does everyone in LA have a faux-hawk?
     Reply
    mehugtree was starred mehugtree was unstarred
    Image of Bentoboxx, My Tank is full of it Bentoboxx, My Tank is full of it
    11/24/08

    @mehugtree: Only the douchebags have Faux Hawks....................which unfortunately is still 80% of the population
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    Bentoboxx, My Tank is full of it was starred Bentoboxx, My Tank is full of it was unstarred
    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    11/24/08

    @Mysterious Utility Bento: you just need to stop hanging out in santa monica
     Reply
    damnelantra™ was starred damnelantra™ was unstarred
    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    11/24/08

    In reply to Top Ten Reveals of the 2008 LA Auto Show
    sunglasses dude needs a spray on tan
     Reply
    damnelantra™ was starred damnelantra™ was unstarred
    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    11/24/08

    @damnelantra™: ahem... jalopnik guy
     Reply
    damnelantra™ was starred damnelantra™ was unstarred
    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    11/24/08

    @damnelantra™: ahem...lollipop guy. OK, fine, "jalopnik guy." Patent pending.
     Reply
    Ray Wert was starred Ray Wert was unstarred
    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    11/24/08

    @Ray Wert: jalopnik guy™
     Reply
    damnelantra™ was starred damnelantra™ was unstarred
    Image of Cameron RS Cameron RS
    11/24/08

    @damnelantra™: jalopnik guy™ is a registered trademark of Jalopnik.com, Inc. ©2008 All rights reserved.
     Reply
    Cameron RS was starred Cameron RS was unstarred
    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    11/24/08

    @Cameron RS: good, better...best!
     Reply
    Ray Wert was starred Ray Wert was unstarred
    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    11/24/08

    @damnelantra™: I will go on record as saying no one needs a spray on tan.
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    smalleyxb122 was starred smalleyxb122 was unstarred
    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    11/24/08

    @smalleyxb122: well i was just looking for the completion of stereotypes ala guangzhou car show
     Reply
    damnelantra™ was starred damnelantra™ was unstarred
    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    11/24/08

    @damnelantra™: fair 'nuff.
     Reply
    smalleyxb122 was starred smalleyxb122 was unstarred
    Image of IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE!
    11/25/08

    @damnelantra™: Oh, and here I was thinking that you wanted to make Jalopnik guy a "Jersey Douche"...


    But to do that we would still need to get him to spike his hair.

     Reply
    IN THE FACE! was starred IN THE FACE! was unstarred
    Image of Cameron RS Cameron RS
    11/24/08

    In reply to Top Ten Reveals of the 2008 LA Auto Show
    Very nice, but I have a question or two about the Jalopnik Guy:


    Who is he?


    How did you find him?


    What does he drive in real life?


    And why does he look so much like the SLR Guy, even though Jalopnik Guy predated the douche by a few years?


    Oh, and sign me up for either the Cube, the Fusion Sport or the Mustang, please. Thanks

     Reply
    Cameron RS was starred Cameron RS was unstarred
    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    11/24/08

    @Cameron RS: Some say he's a car geek with eyes turned to red. All we know is...actually, we've no clue who he is.
     Reply
    Ray Wert was starred Ray Wert was unstarred
    Image of Cameron RS Cameron RS
    11/24/08

    @Ray Wert: Hmm... well, if that's the truth, then we're going to need a good story to tell about Jalopnik Guy.


    Him being a car geek with eyes turned to red is a good start, I think.

     Reply
    Cameron RS was starred Cameron RS was unstarred
    Image of BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ
    11/24/08

    @Ray Wert: Not at all anything to do with a guy in white overall and a white Simpson helmet, sometimes anounced by a british bloke?
     Reply
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    11/24/08

    @Cameron RS: He was once a car guy. He used to rip whole transmissions out of junkyard fairlanes with his bare hands, and would toss them into the bed of his pristine '49 IH pickup with original Von Dutch pinstripes, and ISKY-breathed on engine. The pickup shared garage space with an original Porsche 550 and a 1950 La Carrera Panamericana Mercury, still with a bit of donkey stuck in the grill.

    He subscribed to Competition Press and Skinned Knuckles and when a funky smell overtook the house, he'd open a can of STP. He knew the names of the Justice Brothers by memory, and carried a vial around his neck containing the oil and methanol-soaked earth from the Ascot raceway track.

    Then one day he decided not to shave for that day. Suddenly, the look of neatly-trimmed 5 o-clock shadow appealed to him. He started using "product" in his hair, and he became compulsive about his calf definition. Interest in cars slowly gave way to narcissism, until the day that he looked at a Chrysler 300 with Lambo doors, 23-inch donks and more gold trim than the Lakers in off-season. It spoke to him in a way that only Abercrombie & Fitch and Stuff magazine had previously. His wardrobe - previously mostly dirty jeans and tee shirts - now was comprised of striped shirts, Italian shoes with no socks, and pants that don't quite cover the ankles. The gold chains around his neck preclude leaning into an engine bay to turn a wrench, and his manicured nails mean that throttle-blipping or track-side ring-gear replacements will now need to be done by others.


    A backwards cap and omnipresent sucker complete the picture, and while the girls swoon every time he enters the room, he's not what you'd call a lady's man.


    His faded memory makes an occasional appearance here and there on his old stomping grounds of Jalopnik, but he has changed in an irrevocable fashion. For he is now, and will ever be Douchebag Guy.


    He resides here as a caustic reminder not to drink fru-fru drinks, not to ever look at yourself in the mirror, or question whether your shirt covers that gut. Should you ever think to yourself: "Man, that gold-plated Maxima with the white and maroon leather interior is kickin'!" you need to take a step back. Go out to the garage and pop open that can of Carb Cleaner you've got sitting there and take a deep breath. Keep doing it until the urge to pop the collar of your shirt passes. Keep alert, stay vigilant, don't let Douchebag Guy happen to you.


    Thanks for keeping us safe Ray.

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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/24/08

    @Cameron RS: "And why does he look so much like the SLR Guy, even though Jalopnik Guy predated the douche by a few years?"


    Damnit.


    I was thinking, as I was reading this, "when did SLR Guy get new threads and a faux-hawk?!"


    Part of me is glad my job and I parted ways, Thursday, as I was having major Jalopnik withdrawal. Now, to make enough to not live on the street.

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    Image of TexanIdiot25- needs moar horse powah TexanIdiot25- needs moar horse powah
    11/24/08

    @graverobber- My Yugo Nova!: Were talkin' about Wert right?
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    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    11/24/08

    @Kelly: the financiapocalypse welcomes you with open arms dear kelly
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    11/25/08

    @graverobber- My Yugo Nova!:

    I'm not going to let that happen to me GB. Nope. Not never.
     Reply
    DoctorNine was starred DoctorNine was unstarred
    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    11/25/08

    @Kelly: So sorry to hear of your redundancy. Welcome to the ranks of the idle poor...
     Reply
    Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was starred Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. was unstarred
    Image of eurodriver eurodriver
    11/24/08

    In reply to Top Ten Reveals of the 2008 LA Auto Show
    Scary stuff when the new Fusion is probably the most interesting reveal of an auto show.
     Reply
    eurodriver was starred eurodriver was unstarred
    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    11/24/08

    @eurodriver: Not that Ford comparatively needs much saving, but the Fusion Hybrid, if successful, could be a... a beacon of saviortude for the American auto industry as a whole.
     Reply
    A strolling player was starred A strolling player was unstarred
    Image of eurodriver eurodriver
    11/24/08

    @A strolling player, now with 100% more Studebaker!:

    True.


    Not that my views are always shared by others - but I think the Volt is the biggest blunder GM has made since the Aztek.

     Reply
    eurodriver was starred eurodriver was unstarred
    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/24/08

    @A strolling player, now with 100% more Studebaker!: When I was there on Saturday, they were handing out $50 gift cards (and t-shirts mocking Toyota!) to anyone who'd sign up for a test-drive.


    I should've asked to be guaranteed one with a stick.

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    Mad_Science was starred Mad_Science was unstarred
    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    11/24/08

    @Mad_Science: If you're talking about the hybrid, it's not gonna happen. Toyota sold Ford their hybrid drive technology, an integral part of which is the power-split gearset which also acts as the car's transmission. If it's possible to engineer around that, which I doubt, I don't think they're willing to.
     Reply
    A strolling player was starred A strolling player was unstarred
    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/24/08

    @A strolling player, now with 100% more Studebaker!: Nah, I was just talking about the 4cyl 6speed model that like 9 people are going to buy.
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    Mad_Science was starred Mad_Science was unstarred
    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    11/25/08

    @Mad_Science: I'd probably make it ten if I were in the market for a new car at all.


    If that's any consolation.

     Reply
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/25/08

    @A strolling player, now with 100% more Studebaker!: that was last generation stuff in the escape, this new fusion is an all-Ford design. the toyota system isn't able to operate at speeds the ford system is.
     Reply
    Ben Wojdyla was starred Ben Wojdyla was unstarred
    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    11/20/08

    In reply to Dodge EV: 360 Degrees
    This is a Scrotus.
     Reply
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    11/20/08

    In reply to Spyker C8 Laviolette LM85, Live In A Very Bright Color
    You know, every year I go to the car show, and sit in the Spykers and talk to the Spyker people, and they say "Oh yes, we're building them, we've already sold out the run of 7 for this one, and 5 of the really exclusive model over there."


    And yet, I've only ever seen one actually driving on the street. And it's not as though I never get out of the house, lord knows it isn't that. I don't know where these are all going, maybe I need to move to Dubai?

     Reply
    Graverobber was starred Graverobber was unstarred
    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    11/20/08

    @graverobber- My Yugo Nova!: old white men in orange county are buying them up to stick in their humidor garages
     Reply
    damnelantra™ was starred damnelantra™ was unstarred
    Image of sos10 sos10
    11/20/08

    @graverobber- My Yugo Nova!: They sold 1 car in 2007, not sure if they sold a car in 2008.
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    sos10 was starred sos10 was unstarred
    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    11/20/08

    @damnelantra: @Pete Gaines: @sos10: @sos10: The one I saw was last August, up in Monterey.

    Burgundy it was, and fast as the wind. I thought it was only the stuff of fables, until I saw it with my own eyes.


    Aye, and then in a flash it was gone returned to the place of myth and legends. And that's my tale of the spyker that got away.

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    Graverobber was starred Graverobber was unstarred
    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    11/20/08

    @graverobber- My Yugo Nova!: and it was this:

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    big!
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    damnelantra™ was starred damnelantra™ was unstarred
    Image of layabout layabout
    11/20/08

    @graverobber- My Yugo Nova!:

    @sos10: There is a dealership near to where i live,on one side of the road they have Aston's & Rollers,on the otherside they have a Spyker & Koenigsegg dealership. Over the last year or so i've seen around 5 or 6 privately owned examples around Cheltenham.

    [www.broughtons.co.uk]
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    layabout was starred layabout was unstarred
    Image of sos10 sos10
    11/20/08

    @sos10: Actually they build 22 cars in the first 6 months of 2008. They sold 26 cars in that same period... but this includes, "sales" to dealerships, not to clients directly.

    Up to now, they lost around 67 million euro this year, that is after selling their F1 team (although not 100% sure) to Orange India.
     Reply
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    11/20/08

    @sos10: 2 C8 Spyders Currently on the bay (Ebay that is) there is one in La Jolla, California and one in Houston for sale. One begining at 140K, the other for a BIN of 179K. Each have >200 miles.
     Reply
    Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . was starred Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . was unstarred
    Image of tmp00 tmp00
    11/20/08

    In reply to Spyker C8 Laviolette LM85, Live In A Very Bright Color
    because nothing says Erectile Dysfunction like orange crocodile..
     Reply
    tmp00 was starred tmp00 was unstarred
    Image of Timtoolman, sporadically speaking Timtoolman, sporadically speaking
    11/20/08

    @tmp00: Looks like a tropical fish of sorts.
     Reply
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/20/08

    @Veni Vidi Propello - I came, I saw, I hooned: Abomination? It's freaking awesome!
     Reply
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/20/08

    @Rust-MyEnemyHasLostHisCommentingMoj...: Where the hell did that come from. I just replied to totally the wrong person.


    I balls'd up there. To complain, call +441303 644304. On of our team will placate you.

     Reply
    Rust-MyEnemy was starred Rust-MyEnemy was unstarred
    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    11/20/08

    In reply to Spyker C8 Laviolette LM85, Live In A Very Bright Color
    That Shamwow guy is a total D-Bag.


    Also, "Made in Germany, those guys make the best stuff!" WTF? You cant just make stupid generalizations like that! And what about all those things the German's made that weren't so great- like the Hindenburg for example.

     Reply
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    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    11/20/08

    In reply to Spyker C8 Laviolette LM85, Live In A Very Bright Color
    pssh... skpker owners would never shamwow their own motorcars, you the jalopnik reader will be given a shamwow as part of the next federal check giving holiday. so that you may have the job security in the field of boulevard windshield wiping technician.


    thanks financiapocalypse!

     Reply
    damnelantra™ was starred damnelantra™ was unstarred
    Image of endless endless
    11/20/08

    In reply to Dodge EV: 360 Degrees
    I dont know why dodge turned to lotus for this.


    they should have had a mid engine RWD platform along time ago.


    turn the drive train from an old SRT4 neon around and throw it in something like that, sell it for the same price as the old neon. I think that would have sold quite well.


    maybe im crazy

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/20/08

    @endless: You're sane in a crazy world.
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    Mad_Science was starred Mad_Science was unstarred
    Image of WheatKing WheatKing
    11/20/08

    @endless: What.. you mean the PT Spyder (mid engine chrysler 2 seater concept, 4cyl turbo rwd)


    Yea.. i'm still shaking my head.. stupid moves from Chryco

     Reply
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    Image of dialing_wand dialing_wand
    11/20/08

    In reply to Dodge EV: 360 Degrees
    Why do companies keep pumping out 2 seater (or 2+2 seater) sports EVs?


    No wonder the big three, even at this point, deserve what they got (no sales.) If you can't make what people want, don't expect them to buy it - no matter how high your quality levels may be at this point.


    And no, I don't want a hybrid truck thank you very much.

     Reply
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/20/08

    @dialing_wand: I love your username.
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    Rust-MyEnemy was starred Rust-MyEnemy was unstarred
    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    11/20/08

    @dialing_wand: The reasons they're pumping out sportscar EVs:

    1) It's easier to get more range out of smaller, lighter vehicles. EV Camry would be a no-go.


    2) For the near future, EVs are going to be more expensive, less reliable, and less capable than a similar ICE car. This would never work on a car people buy for practical reasons.


    Thus, one of the only ways you'll sell an EV is in the form of a vehicle that people already buy for non-rational reasons: sportscar.


    Use the money from sportscar sales to help improve the tech to the point where it starts to be price-competitive with more "normal" cars.


    This was Tesla's plan. Too bad they can't seem to actually run the company.

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    Mad_Science was starred Mad_Science was unstarred
    Image of Boosted Lego Wagon Boosted Lego Wagon
    11/20/08

    In reply to Dodge EV: 360 Degrees
    I believe Europa was supposed to have been raped by a bull, not a Ram.
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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    11/20/08

    @boosted-lego-wagon: That was very amusing, especially read in Alex Trebek's voice.
     Reply
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