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    Image of Armand Armand
    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    As a Rootes Group nerd (I mean, "enthusiast") I love it, even if the rusted sills look very, very bad for a British unibody car. I'd rather have a Minx wagon, but this will do in a pinch. #rootesgroup
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    Image of DrLemming DrLemming
    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    Does anyone know why Loewy would so blatantly copy the 1953-54 Studebaker's design for the Minx? Was there an attempt to sell the Minx in the US through Studebaker dealers? If not, that seems like a lazy thing for a design consultant to do.

    The irony is that the Minx has a better-balanced look than the Studebaker sedans. Although the low-slung Starliner coupes were stunningly beautiful, the sedans were considerably taller -- and downright ugly. #rootesgroup
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    Image of Armand Armand
    11/15/09

    @DrLemming: There was never any link between Studebaker and the Rootes Group besides their affiliation with Loewy and a little legal wrangling over who had the trademark to the name "Hawk." The lack of stylistic differentiation between the Minx and the Studebakers does seem lazy on Loewy's part, but it wasn't unique. Pininfarina used pretty much the same design for the Peugeot 404, Lancia Flaminia and Austin Westminster, and Bertone's small '60s sedans for Datsun and Mazda looked an awful lot like their Alfas. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09


    @Armand: Also, the big Fiat 1800/2300 shared the same styling concept as the 404 and BMC Farinas. As for the Bertone connection between the Alfa Romeo and the Mazda, the Mazda 1500/1800 body was originally intended for the 1967 Alfa 1750. Alfa turned it down, so Bertone sold the style to Mazda, and it doesn't look like a lot of changes were made. #rootesgroup
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    Image of MadHungarian MadHungarian
    11/15/09

    @DrLemming: The Vauxhalls of the time looked like shrunken '58 Chevys. English Fords looked like various American Fords left in the dryer too long. Over in Germany, NSU was blatantly ripping off the '60 Corvair. The US was the style leader. So Loewy worked with what he knew. He was not the only designer of the time to recycle his themes for another company. The '64 Imperial shares some lines with the '61 Lincoln for a reason. #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    I like the paint, and in general I like little cars that look like shrunken land barges, but you'll always be the only minx for me, Murilee.

    /mouthbreathing creepiness #rootesgroup
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/15/09

    In reply to 1962 Hillman Minx Down On The East Bay Street
    Can't argue with that two-tone paint job. Just perfect. And four cylinders looks about right for that critter. The rear looks like a 1960 Mercury, the front--old Ford? And all shrunk down to a handy traveling size. I'll take two. #rootesgroup
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    Image of Mr. M Mr. M
    11/15/09

    @Novaload: Probably fits nicely in the trunk of a Fairlane... #rootesgroup
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    11/15/09


    @Novaload: Apparently the two-tone paint job was known by Hillman as "The Gay Look". #rootesgroup
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    11/16/09

    @Lounge Singer Chamois: The people certainly look happy enough, but where are they, Morocco? #rootesgroup
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    Image of Armand Armand
    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    I'll split the difference with this rally-prepped ID19:
    [bringatrailer.com] #porsche356
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    Image of stuntdriver stuntdriver
    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    the ds wagon is a sexy car... but this 356 is a true legend....

    ...wow.. this car is gorgeous.. #porsche356
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    Image of hotrod356 hotrod356
    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    Being a 356 idiot. I feel like I have to say something? Sure.. its a 63. there I said it. I do love the Cptsevere comment as a 356 is "just an arrogant Volkswagen". That is perfect. Im going to get some millage out of that one. #porsche356
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    Image of alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons
    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    Love it. But being a family man, I'd stick with the Goddess, in wagon form. Always wondered if it would be possible to swap out that funky Traction-Avant-derived engine with something more powerful and even less reliable . . . SM engine swap? Hmmmmm . . . #porsche356
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    Image of Muscles Marinara Muscles Marinara
    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    For a daily driver, definitely the 356. It's got enough get-up and practicality so you don't have to drive it like an antique. The design is timeless... its easy to forget that this body style was 15 years old at the time this particular car was built, and it still looks way ahead of its time. Then again, so does the DS, but getting parts for a 40-year-old French car has to be a BITCH.
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    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    10/25/09

    @Muscles Marinara:
    In the US parts for the DS might be rare. But the DS is one of the, if not the most popular classic in Europe. I see them everywhere. Many parts are actually being reproduced. So, even in the US, parts availability isn't as bad as you might expect, as long as you're willing to order overseas.

    In this UK TV program they buy and patch up a DS (part 1 of 5; rest on youtube) #porsche356
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    Image of Muscles Marinara Muscles Marinara
    10/25/09

    @duurtlang:
    Interesting. Yeah, where I went to college, there's a professor who has a DS and a CX, both of which are drivers. He uses a nice late-70s 300D as his winter "beater". At least in the States, Citroens seem to be pretty much confined to those types of owners - slightly weird, but cool, eccentric types that are willing to deal with a car that probably only a handful of people in the entire state have any familiarity with. But it's always a treat when you get to see one on the road. #porsche356
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    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    I would want them both, actually. Why choose?
    I would prefer the replacements of both cars though; the Citroën CX (not the wagon) and the first-gen 911. #porsche356
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    Image of CptSevere CptSevere
    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    The Porsche would be much better to drive daily, I mean it's just an arrogant Volkswagen. Nothing to break. And, it's got to be a hoot to drive. I've driven a Citroen DS, and it was gutless and wallowy. I could get used to tooling around in the Porsche. #porsche356
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    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    Instead of having to choose between this and the DS wagon, I'd just take both. The question is, which would be the daily driver? #porsche356
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    After due reflection:
    1) I don't care which year it is, it's a treat.
    2) Both. The wee 356 for sporty fun, the goddess for eccentric fun. Porsche for hauling ass, Citro for hauling whatever it is one would haul -- film projector and screen for showing my trunk-load of obscure French Existentialist flicks? #porsche356
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    10/25/09

    @Novaload: Think of all the mimes you could stuff into the DS. #porsche356
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    10/25/09

    @☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig.: Especially before rigor mortis sets in. #porsche356
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    10/26/09

    @Novaload: Rimshot! #porsche356
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    Image of gallahad gallahad
    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    While the DS may be great for a historic rally with a busty blond co-driver (I hope I'm getting the model right), I'd have to go with the 356. The DS looks pretty cool, but the 356 is just plain sexy. #porsche356
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    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    10/25/09

    @gallahad: You're mistaking the DS for an Ami. The DS has about 4 times the HP, 2 times the cilinders and 2 times the curb weight. And it's a whopping 10 inches wider and 40+ inches longer. And don't forget the hydropneumatic suspension, directional headlights and other awesome features the DS had and the Ami lacks.
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    Image of gallahad gallahad
    10/25/09

    @duurtlang: French car expert I am not. Duly noted :) #porsche356
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    10/25/09

    In reply to 1963 Porsche 356 S Coupe
    DS Break! Every time. A 356 is only really cool if painted in a matte color and lightly ratted. #porsche356
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