I would be happy to own/drive 7 out of those 10, good list. It's interesting that they only included the S4 (not S4/A4), but grouped the M3 in with the 3 series. I'm not arguing, just saying ;)
I love the Corvette and believe it should ideally be on the 10Best List every year, but it is getting pricier, and the interior of the upcoming Spark is of higher quality, which is pathetic.
I got this issue last week, and I barely leafed through it before putting it down to rub my eyes. I'm not normally that concerned with magazine aesthetics, but the layout has gotten so fussy and illegible that it just flat sucks to read. And I don't know what look they were going for, but what they've produced is something between special advertising section and quirky housewares catalog.
And how did they manage to bring back Davis and O'Rourke and still lower the quality of the writing? Instead of the occasional awkward use of a pop culture reference, they now seem to be consciously trying to quilt together as many as possible as some kind of style experiment. I DON'T CARE WHAT A MIDDLE AGED AUTO JOURNALIST THINKS ABOUT PARIS HILTON.
@snapoversteer 'bout to get told: I have decided $8.00 per year was too much to pay for car and driver and canceled a 15 yr subsricption run this summer.
Your dead on with the decay of real wit in the mag. It began to hurt my head to read it. Coveting john phillips was the straw for me.
@Steve_in_NC: It's 22 years for me, and I'm going to see if they get things evened out. I really was excited to see Davis and O'Rourke back, but they're clearly not going to be providing the bulk of the content. I hope to see some good, young writers there soon.
No Toyotas. A GM product, a FoMoCo product, no Toyotas. My, my.
Even with its leg in the trap, GM manages to poop out a car or two that blacks the eye and bloodies the nose of the mighty MB SL63. And I'm looking forward to next year when we may see, instead of a Fit, a Fiesta. That should be fun.
@Quattro-luvr: The blame game is the shame game. The simple answer: build great cars. Not necessarily fantastically powerful cars, or quick, or flashy - most people want something that starts every morning, and arrives back in the evening with every part still screwed on. Power and flash are big draws too, though. GM has wrung out of their sclerotic arteries a few drops of real lifeblood, the CTS and -V; the Cobalt is not embarrassing; the Cruze looks to be the next Corolla. If it can keep treading water - or red-hot lava in this case, GM has a shot at recapturing the King of the World crown.
Assuming they can wrench it away from Ford, who appear to be adjusting the strap to fit their own heads at the moment. Never mind they're trying to fit themselves in there with VW. VW's corporate structure is, in a word, bizarre. VW may be the Emperor Joker but anything can happen. If VW tries to buy itself again and the deal falls through, does that mean they dissolve themselves in a fit of pique?
@Elhigh: I dunno. While buying/selling yourself in public makes a mess, and is something which would make your mother blush, it's still better than GM's self-maiming habit of amputating all its fingers, on the theory that that will make it stronger...
I drive a '97 Mystique on occasion. The back seat is indeed questionable (this was improved after the '95 model year), it's slow and has vibration issues at idle with the 2.0/automatic, and the cupholders are cheap pieces of shit.
Aside from that, it's a great car. Best-handling family sedan you can get for under a few grand these days, and it was quite good in its day as long as you didn't mind sticky door locks (on the base model) and a lack of rear seat room. Hell, even the trunk ain't bad.
To be fair to the judges (some of whom are now grazing at the great PR buffet in the sky), most of the problems with most of these cars are related to reliability - hard to assess when new.
CAR magazine blew the whistle on the political machinations of the European CotY award years ago, which went a long way to explaining Fiat's 9 awards and Renault's 6, compared to BMW's big fat zero.
The contour was a truly awesome and amazing car, even in non svt form - provided that you got it in a form that maybe 5 americans did - v6 and the five speed. I was one of those Americans, and my dad was another one. Truly wonderful car. Only real problem with the contour was the performance of the 4 cylinder automatic model - drove one and hated it (which due to american buying habits constituted 90% of Contours sold).
As others have said - the Town Car doesn't deserve to be on the list. Ford aimed for the wants and needs for a particular demographic, gave them exactly what they wanted and it was a home run. It's laughable 18 years later when you see ratty beaters with the tail scraping the road, but it was a good honest car... unlike 90% of what Dodge and Pontiac sell. You knew exactly what you'd be getting with a town car, and if that was your taste - excellent.
Truth be told, this crap is why I stopped buying car & driver and motor trend years ago. It's so easy to poke fun of cars years later out of their context. Truth be told - when consumer reports refused to recommend a toyota before any of those mags had something bad to say - says a lot.
I've said it before: the Mystique with the 170 HP V6, manual tranny, and leather interior was a great car. I was ready to buy a BMW 318 until I drove one and decided it wasn't different enough to warrant the difference in price.
The Alliance proved that Wisconsin workers could assemble a Renault with the same indifference to quality that was a hallmark of French automobile industry.
Wait, so the Alliance was crappy because of the Wisconsin people who built it?
You can have a turd sculpted by Picasso, but it's still going to smell like a turd...
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And how did they manage to bring back Davis and O'Rourke and still lower the quality of the writing? Instead of the occasional awkward use of a pop culture reference, they now seem to be consciously trying to quilt together as many as possible as some kind of style experiment. I DON'T CARE WHAT A MIDDLE AGED AUTO JOURNALIST THINKS ABOUT PARIS HILTON.
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Your dead on with the decay of real wit in the mag. It began to hurt my head to read it. Coveting john phillips was the straw for me.
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Even with its leg in the trap, GM manages to poop out a car or two that blacks the eye and bloodies the nose of the mighty MB SL63. And I'm looking forward to next year when we may see, instead of a Fit, a Fiesta. That should be fun.
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Assuming they can wrench it away from Ford, who appear to be adjusting the strap to fit their own heads at the moment. Never mind they're trying to fit themselves in there with VW. VW's corporate structure is, in a word, bizarre. VW may be the Emperor Joker but anything can happen. If VW tries to buy itself again and the deal falls through, does that mean they dissolve themselves in a fit of pique?
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Aside from that, it's a great car. Best-handling family sedan you can get for under a few grand these days, and it was quite good in its day as long as you didn't mind sticky door locks (on the base model) and a lack of rear seat room. Hell, even the trunk ain't bad.
I like it well enough.
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CAR magazine blew the whistle on the political machinations of the European CotY award years ago, which went a long way to explaining Fiat's 9 awards and Renault's 6, compared to BMW's big fat zero.
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As others have said - the Town Car doesn't deserve to be on the list. Ford aimed for the wants and needs for a particular demographic, gave them exactly what they wanted and it was a home run. It's laughable 18 years later when you see ratty beaters with the tail scraping the road, but it was a good honest car... unlike 90% of what Dodge and Pontiac sell. You knew exactly what you'd be getting with a town car, and if that was your taste - excellent.
Truth be told, this crap is why I stopped buying car & driver and motor trend years ago. It's so easy to poke fun of cars years later out of their context. Truth be told - when consumer reports refused to recommend a toyota before any of those mags had something bad to say - says a lot.
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I loved that car. How they can piss on it now really shows that they are no longer a magazine that you can take seriously.
I was not going to renew C & D last year, but they called me and offered me 3 years for $20.
Won't take that call again, can't wait for it to end.
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I guess this is the kind of artile to expect from the new editor at C&D. It is almost as good as his first column posted here a couple of weeks ago.
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I have a plan to someday get a manual Duratec Mystique with a rod knock or some such trouble and drop in a 3.0 from a Taurus. That'd be a good time.
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Wait, so the Alliance was crappy because of the Wisconsin people who built it?
You can have a turd sculpted by Picasso, but it's still going to smell like a turd...
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Bad performance?
Bad reliability?
Lousy sales?
Not profitable?
The most profitable, highest-volume cars would be considered terrible in the enthusiast's book.
From a sales perspective, the GTO was an epic flop. In my book, it's one of the best cars of our time (for the price).
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They just described Suzanne Summers' character from American Graffiti. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Also, capping on the XR4Ti? Bastards, that was a damn interesting car.
Car and Driver can suck my hairy left nut over a good portion of this list.