@Andrew Medina: But if you could break those errands into two groups, and do a partial recharge, then you could go about your business with some miles to spare. I bet a lot of businesses will be giving this a close look when it's time to cycle their trucks.
Yup. I've got a client who needs to replace a copper roof. It's a high quality, 100 year roof. But it's been about 135 years now... The numbers are better than they used to be, but it's still not pretty.
Maybe I'm just completely crazy... but I always thought this was the kind of thing Scion should have in their lineup. Though I'd take some of the emphasis off of it as a commercial vehicle and put some into it being a rolling living space.
@Mark Arnold: My wife had to do a trip to DC a couple of years ago and she said every xB she saw had a florist's name and address on the side. Evidently, Scion is in the game whether they intended it or not.
Almost a proper replacement for my '65 FC Econoline. But the lack of a manual, and the ability to load 4x8 sheets of plywood and sheetrock between the wheels is a deal killer.
This is a lot posher than any Econoline I've ever owned. Looks like it would be pretty comfy and have a more car like driving position.
Now, my old Econo would get about 20 mpg on the highway with the six and a three speed manual, singing like a sewing machine all the way. And it had 150 cu. ft. of cargo space, before I folded up the passenger jump seat.
No business over here would even look at a commercial vehicle returning less than 40mpg. The diesel Connects running round everywhere probably get about 50.
@MattP: Fair enough - I always forget that. But still, this is a very important launch of a new type of vehicle into the states and yet the engine option that could total cost of ownership by 30-40% is missing? Really?
Good for Ford. The TRansit is a smaller competitor to the Sprinter. And the electric option will make sense for a lot of businesses in cities. Plenty have been hammered by fuel costs, and an electric charge is a whole lot less that filling a tank. Obviously, it won't work for everyone. Having plenty of connections to 220V power will mean that they can recharge the truck on lunch breaks or while loading in the next run, so they may be able to see 100 miles a day without much drama.
Why is it that of all the new vehicles recently introduces, I am more interested in the Transit? Maybe it is the idea of its inherent simplicity or that I could have a legimate dual purpose vehicle. I could run a small business(I detail vehicles for a small client base) and can still carry my family. Also, Home Depot runs will not require me to bring my pickup for 90% of the purchases. Two things this vehicle needs: 1) The upgraded 2.5 four cylinder matches with a 6speed 2) An option of a manual if only the 2.0 liter is offered.
@longdx: I really see the manual and the small engine as an economy issue, if what you are looking for is mileage. I really hope Ford pays attention to that.
Does the electric Ranger from the '90s not count as the first Ford electric vehicle? Just curious.
I think this is a great idea. First, it allows Ford to say they have an electric vehicle. A real one. Second, it will allow Ford to really test the market for electric vehicles on a platform that is capable of both IC and BEV powertrains. Should the BEV version not really do well they have not wasted a lot of time, effort and dollars developing a vehicle without an engine.
GM, on the other had, has a dedicated BEV coming. What if it doesn't sell? They're screwed.
So how would one become a business in order to get in line for one of these things? What kind of proof do they look for at the dealership? Or would they just be happy as hell to see someone, anyone showing up there with an eye to buy?
Width between rear wheelwells: 47.8. Missed the usual plywood-width measuring stick by that much.
That said, I'd still park the Ford Club Van to drive this instead. The Van gets 15mpg highway - maybe - and usually isn't called on to carry anything bigger than a washer and dryer. The Connect could swallow that, easy.
@DoctorNine Does Hoboken: Nobody said a manual version was coming stateside, only that Ford would consider it if demand is high enough, so go bitch to your local dealer.
I can't wait for the manual version. I've already got my shag carpet and smoked plexiglass porthole all picked out. I'm out of the loop, and might need to ask Michael Phelps for some bongwater to give it the proper ambience, but I foresee a whole new wave of Van Abominations in my not-too-distant future. Go Ford!!
@Feds: I was going to go with the big Chevy bowtie ones for just the right cognitive dissonance to mesh with the bongwater and dirty green shag carpet. You have to think these things out thoroughly to get the result just right.
Will said fancy transmission hold up to commercial duty with a heavy cargo load? Will said transmission be cheap and easy to repair? Does said transmission add any real benefits in an urban environment? Is said transmission cheap?
Unless all those are yes then Ford made the right choice by keeping it simple.
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I've driven 125 miles in a day just running errands.
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Yup. I've got a client who needs to replace a copper roof. It's a high quality, 100 year roof. But it's been about 135 years now... The numbers are better than they used to be, but it's still not pretty.
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This is a lot posher than any Econoline I've ever owned. Looks like it would be pretty comfy and have a more car like driving position.
Now, my old Econo would get about 20 mpg on the highway with the six and a three speed manual, singing like a sewing machine all the way. And it had 150 cu. ft. of cargo space, before I folded up the passenger jump seat.
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No business over here would even look at a commercial vehicle returning less than 40mpg. The diesel Connects running round everywhere probably get about 50.
Sweet Jebus.
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If "here" is the UK, don't forget that an imperial gallon is around 20% larger than a US gallon.
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Two things this vehicle needs:
1) The upgraded 2.5 four cylinder matches with a 6speed
2) An option of a manual if only the 2.0 liter is offered.
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I think this is a great idea. First, it allows Ford to say they have an electric vehicle. A real one. Second, it will allow Ford to really test the market for electric vehicles on a platform that is capable of both IC and BEV powertrains. Should the BEV version not really do well they have not wasted a lot of time, effort and dollars developing a vehicle without an engine.
GM, on the other had, has a dedicated BEV coming. What if it doesn't sell? They're screwed.
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That said, I'd still park the Ford Club Van to drive this instead. The Van gets 15mpg highway - maybe - and usually isn't called on to carry anything bigger than a washer and dryer. The Connect could swallow that, easy.
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Playboy bunny, or classic round?
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This is a good start, but Job #1 isn't over.
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Will said fancy transmission hold up to commercial duty with a heavy cargo load? Will said transmission be cheap and easy to repair? Does said transmission add any real benefits in an urban environment? Is said transmission cheap?
Unless all those are yes then Ford made the right choice by keeping it simple.
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