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    Engine Of The Day: BMW OHV V8

    2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump

    Alfa Romeo Developing 3.0-Liter Twin-Turbo V8, Could Come Stateside

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    11/22/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW OHV V8
    And they also used to have horse-cart suspension, didn't they?

    Oh, and GM and Ford...
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    11/22/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: The Very First Chevrolet V8
    FTFA:

    Advanced in design, the 1917 V-8 had a central camshaft operating vertical overhead valves in each bank, a counterweighted crankshaft, and detachable crossflow cylinder heads. Displacing 288 cubic inches and breathing through a Zenith two-barrel carburetor, it developed 55 horsepower at 2,700 rpm, running on 4.75:1 compression.

    This is probably because gasoline had an octane rating in the mid-40s in those days. 4.75:1 was probably pushing it, and 55 HP was about as good as it got for that size engine during World War I.
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    11/22/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW OHV V8

    BMW had also intended to use the V8 in a top-line limousine called the 505. There is a story that BMW showed German Chancellor Adenauer a prototype of the limousine to try to woo him away from his Mercedes 300. The Chancellor's hat got knocked off as he entered the rear seat. At that moment, BMW knew they lost their chance and immediately killed off the 505 program.
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    11/23/09

    @tonyola: Cool, thanks for the story. I had no idea about the 505. Proves that BMW was gunning for M-B's market share pretty early on.
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    11/22/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW OHV V8
    WOW! With this sort of cutting edge technology, BMW could play NASCAR.

    I wonder why they don't?
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    11/22/09

    @LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard: LMFAOSHMFMBIAIHTHIASTRI
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    11/22/09

    @jewce is fueled by sour gummy worms: Well I got the first five letters, may I please have the rest in sentence form?
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    11/23/09

    @LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard: Laughing my f ass off so hard my fecal matter becomes impacted and I have to have invasive anal surgery to remove it.

    #tips
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    11/22/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: BMW OHV V8
    Step 1: Cram this engine into a Dixi
    Step 2: Chop top of and remove fenders from said Dixi
    Step 3: ?
    Step 4: Profit!
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    11/21/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump
    I'm sure the irridium spark plugs had so much to do with it.
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    11/20/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump
    Wow, because nobody has ever found a way to squeeze less than half a dozen horsepower from an engine by tinkering with the manifolds before.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis: "Tau" V8 Gets A 10 HP Bump
    I still have a hard time believing that they didn't design the Genesis coupe big enough to accept the Tau V8.
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    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Oh they did, you just have to put it in the back.

    [jalopnik.com]
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    11/20/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Yeah, no. That doesn't qualify.

    Hyundai should have designed the coupe's engine bay to accept the Tau V8. Had they done so from the beginning, I don't think it would have cost them too much extra money, and it would give them and aftermarket tuners a lot more flexibility with the platform.

    #tips
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    11/20/09

    @pauljones: I thought it was a good joke.

    The whole problem is that they failed to use the same platform for the two cars that share a name, so I wouldn't doubt that you could stuff the Tau V8 in the front of a Coupe but when your V6 already makes 300 HP then whats the point especially when the V6 weighs less.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Platform growth potential.

    The Camaro just came out, and the base model has an engine just as powerful as the high-end Genesis coupe (although the Camaro is actually a tenth of a second or two slower due to its weight, though it get better mileage), and the Camaro SS leaves the Genesis in the dust.

    The 2011 Mustang will have a base engine more powerful than the Genesis coupe's premium engine, and won't have the same weight disadvantage that the Camaro has. And the 2011 Mustang GT? It, too, will leave the Genesis coupe in a cloud of dust and tire smoke.

    Granted, the base price for the highest Genesis coupe trim line undercuts the base Camaro SS and Mustang GT price by a grand or two, but for that extra grand or two, you get a hell of a lot.

    Where the Genesis coupe makes the least sense is stacked up against the base models of the 2010 Camaro and the 2011 Mustang, which are at the least it's peer in power, get better mileage, and are more refined than the Genesis coupe; all for a price that is in the same ballpark of a base, 4-cyl Genesis coupe.

    Had Hyundai designed a little more growth potential into the Genesis coupe platform by designing it to accept the Tau V8, they could have made the platform more competitive in a broader field.

    #tips
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    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Don't expect Hyundai to cow tao to you whims by designing the coupe to accomodate the big 'ol V8 cow Tau.
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    11/20/09

    @PowerTryp, Starless wonder.: Good point on the weight. Does anyone know the weights of the 3.8 and the Tau?

    The Genesis Coupe is a bit smaller than its domestic competition. I'm thinking a V8 model would be very front-heavy.
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    11/20/09

    @dal20402: I've been trying to find the weight and dimensions of the Genesis engines, but, ironically, those seem to be the only bits of information I can't find about them.
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    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Somehow I don't think the Genesis Coupe is competing with big 'Merican muscle cars.
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    11/20/09

    @alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons: It isn't? Then what was it that was Hyundai's rationale for bringing the Genesis coupe to the market?

    @Mixtronic: So can the Camaro and the Mustang. The Challenger? Well, not quite as well, but it's far from scary.
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    11/21/09

    @pauljones: Yeah yeah yeah, I know they went and slapped the mustang and all that. But seriously, show me a guy who wants to buy a Mustang who's going to be swayed by a Genesis. My point being that in the real world, the yokels who want muscle cars won't be drawn to the the Genesis. It'll be young moderately successful guys and the JDM set.

    #tips
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/21/09

    @alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons: You make a fair point from the standpoint that a Mustang guy is a Mustang guy is a Mustang guy.

    But the truth is, the majority of people in the non-premium sporty, RWD coupe market (in which the Genesis, Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, 370Z, and RX-8 compete) aren't necessarily Mustang people. They are people out to buy a car in that class, and while they may have a short list, they are likely to consider alternatives based on the deals they can get and other similar criteria.

    So yes, the Genesis does indeed compete with the Mustang.

    #tips
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    10/14/09

    In reply to Alfa Romeo Developing 3.0-Liter Twin-Turbo V8, Could Come Stateside
    LIVO just kicked in, YO!
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    10/14/09

    In reply to Alfa Romeo Developing 3.0-Liter Twin-Turbo V8, Could Come Stateside
    Hooray for small displacement V8s!

    Alfa needs to make the spiritual successor to the Thema 8.32 ASAP and I'll rob a bank for it. Or just plain rob the car!
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    10/14/09

    In reply to Alfa Romeo Developing 3.0-Liter Twin-Turbo V8, Could Come Stateside
    "Fiat is basing the 166, the sedan this image is being developed for, around the next-gen 300C. "

    By "image," I take it you mean "engine."

    Also, Alfa denies it.

    [www.autoblog.com]
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    10/14/09

    In reply to Alfa Romeo Developing 3.0-Liter Twin-Turbo V8, Could Come Stateside
    I love CGI engine videos; this one is as good as the one Scuderri did for their split cycle.
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    10/14/09

    In reply to Alfa Romeo Developing 3.0-Liter Twin-Turbo V8, Could Come Stateside
    That thing got a emis?
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    10/14/09

    In reply to Alfa Romeo Developing 3.0-Liter Twin-Turbo V8, Could Come Stateside
    Fiat drivers are advised to ride with friends given the inevitable necessity of Multi-Push technology.
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    10/14/09

    @Boosted Lego Wagon: At least they can fit multiple friends in them. The old Austin Healy my neighbor had wasn't quite so accommodating, and it needed to be pushed everywhere.
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    10/14/09

    In reply to Alfa Romeo Developing 3.0-Liter Twin-Turbo V8, Could Come Stateside
    Hasn't BMW had something like this (their system is called VANOS IIRC) for about ten years now?
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