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    The Chevy Volt Song: No, We're Not Kidding

    Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last

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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    12/07/09

    In reply to The Chevy Volt Song: No, We're Not Kidding
    Helpful Hint: If you're going to do a song about a car that makes people want to jam an icepick in their ears,
    at least try to make it catchy.
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    Image of Bentoboxx, My Tank is full of it Bentoboxx, My Tank is full of it
    12/07/09

    In reply to The Chevy Volt Song: No, We're Not Kidding
    Why not just use this?
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    12/07/09

    In reply to The Chevy Volt Song: No, We're Not Kidding
    Woah. Anyone remember when pretty much every car had a theme song of sorts?

    Pick up the Tempo of your Life!
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    Image of egoods egoods
    12/07/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: Like a rock?
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    Image of RoboRed loves his virtual G8 GXP RoboRed loves his virtual G8 GXP
    12/07/09

    @egoods: I remember growing up to Chevy's "Like A Rock" commercials. Good times.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    12/07/09

    @RoboRed loves his virtual G8 GXP: So did I. One of my earliest TV memories was back in the days when GM built a half decent truck and backed it up with that catchy tune.

    I was actually under the false impressions that GM built better trucks then Ford. Then, I came into possession of a 1994 Chevrolet K2500 loaded to the max with a 350 and a 5spd. Then, after many thousands of dollars and hours of pain later, I bought a 1990 Ford F-150 XLT Lariat and never looked back.
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    Image of RoboRed loves his virtual G8 GXP RoboRed loves his virtual G8 GXP
    12/08/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: *Robo loves his F-150*
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    12/07/09

    In reply to The Chevy Volt Song: No, We're Not Kidding
    Volt
    Volt
    Sell it to dolts
    These are the folks who bought Plymouth Colts
    Come on
    We're selling to you
    Come on

    -Environmental Compassion and Education Initiative ("Tears for Fears")
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    12/07/09

    In reply to The Chevy Volt Song: No, We're Not Kidding
    I'm waiting for The Volt Song - Unplugged.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/07/09

    In reply to The Chevy Volt Song: No, We're Not Kidding
    I'm not going to listen to it.

    Heads up, GM - if you overdo the hype and the car isn't fucking FANTASTIC, you'll look like dickheads, and we'll be the infuriated taxpayers who kept the dickheads employed and overpaid. Play your cards a little closer.

    When it hit the charts, Weird Al's song White and Nerdy, a spoof of Chamillionaire's Ridin Dirty, took off like a rocket. People called Chamillionaire and congratulated him on his great take on Weird Al's song. The official Youtube view count for Ridin Dirty stands at about 2.1m views, White and Nerdy is closer to 5 million.

    Without even listening to the song, how long before somebody comes up with something that mocks it, and is way more entertaining?
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    Image of jodark jodark
    12/07/09

    @Elhigh: South Park already did this. Years ago.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/07/09

    @jodark: Never watched even a minute of South Park.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    I'm going to pop open a cold one on the day GM officially announces there will never be a Chevy Volt mass produced for the 'Merican consumer. #laautoshow
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    11/17/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: I'll just wearily shake my head. Then I'll pop a bottle of whiskey, but not necessarily out of a sense of celebration. #laautoshow
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/17/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: Based on what I've seen and know, you'll never get a chance to pop that cold one open. Sorry. #laautoshow
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    Will the cruze be better than the fiesta? #laautoshow
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    Is this the car we knew Korea could build for us? #laautoshow
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    Too bad this can't be a direct-injection 1.4L TD. Then we'd get 260 torques and 65 MPG.

    Oh, and it'd last forever...or until some bonehead put gasoline in it a 15th time. #laautoshow
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    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    11/18/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son:
    It's available in Europe already, with a 2 liter turbodiesel with 150 HP. It's not very economical though, for European standards that is.
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    that ain't the way to have fun, son promoted this comment duurtlang was starred duurtlang was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/18/09

    @duurtlang: Which means it slam-dunks anything, here.

    Grrrrr.

    #tips
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    Image of Motor_Yakuza Motor_Yakuza
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last

    Cobalt Coupe replacement? #laautoshow
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    Image of Motor_Yakuza Motor_Yakuza
    11/17/09


    @Motor_Yakuza: #laautoshow
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    The-Simpsons-Rule!! promoted this comment Motor_Yakuza was starred Motor_Yakuza was unstarred
    Image of underwear-ninja underwear-ninja
    11/17/09

    @Motor_Yakuza: You intrigued me until I saw the Daewoo badge. BZZZT! WRONG! FAIL! #laautoshow
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    11/17/09


    @underwear-ninja: LoL, sorry , but the Cruze is sold as a Daewoo Lacetti , I don't like that to much but you have to talk to GM about that. Is that "Ask Fritz or Tell Fritz" thingy still on? #laautoshow
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    09' 1.4 GTDI: 140 hp
    90' 5.0 L02 v8 (Base): 140 hp

    We did come a long way. #laautoshow
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    Image of Motor_Yakuza Motor_Yakuza
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last

    So, how much until this thing will arrive? #laautoshow
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/17/09

    @Motor_Yakuza: Not soon enough. #laautoshow
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    Image of Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    Do they have an appearance package on that Cruze that will disguise its underlying appliance-like features? You know... like a 'Sport' or 'GT' deal? The description of the engine, along with a manual transmission and the assumed low curb weight sound kind of fun. But it looks like it might put me to sleep. #laautoshow
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    YankBoffin promoted this comment Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) was starred Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) was unstarred
    Image of YankBoffin YankBoffin
    11/17/09

    @Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe): Good point. Anybody know what the curb weight of the Cruze is? Wiki turned up nothing. #laautoshow
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/17/09

    @YankBoffin: 2,844lbs to 2,899lbs #laautoshow
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    Image of Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
    11/17/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: I kept seeing 2750 lbs. But let's go with 2850. I'm also seeing horsepower figures of 138 - 140. (Though I see there's a 1.6 liter that makes only 112, probably in Europe.) With 138 hp and 2850 lbs., that's a hp:wt ratio of about 1:20.

    Just for s*$ts and giggles, I tried to find the 2010 VW GTI figures for the same. I see a curb weight of 3100 - 3200 lbs. with horsepower figures of 197 and 211. Going with 197 and 3100 lbs, this gives us hp: wt ratio of 1:16 or 1 hp for every 16 lbs. of weight. That's substantially better performance... so how about something a little less challenging? Anybody got any ideas of a sporty little fuel sipper with four doors? #laautoshow
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    YankBoffin promoted this comment Edited by Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) at 11/17/09 3:10 PM Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) was starred Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) was unstarred
    Image of nataku8_e30 nataku8_e30
    11/17/09

    @Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe): The fit is 117 HP and 2520 lbs, so 21.54 lbs / HP

    Also, the fit is only rated 33 mpg highway... #laautoshow
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    Image of YankBoffin YankBoffin
    11/17/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Interesting. That's about the same weight and horsepower as the wife's 2002 Protege5, which is indeed quite fun to drive. However, it definitely doesn't get close to 40mpg. #laautoshow
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    Image of Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
    11/17/09

    @nataku8_e30: Excellent comparison! So the Fit is a little peppier, but doesn't get you into the "4's" for fuel mileage. The Fit was on my list when I last went shopping for a new car. But at the time you couldn't even find one with a stick shift to take out for a test drive. :( I ended up going with the Scion xB after ruling out the Aveo, the Rio, the Ion, something from Suzuki... can't remember them all now. I had about 12 cars I was looking at. So, comparing the xB to the Fit, the xB has 103 - 108 horsepower and weighs 2415 lbs. That gives it a hp:wt ratio of about 1 to 23... which explains why I had to get a stick shift just so it felt like I was having any fun while driving it. But it does get 30+ mpg in my semi-aggressive driving. By those numbers, I suppose the Cruze would be a step up in performance for me... #laautoshow
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    Image of nataku8_e30 nataku8_e30
    11/17/09

    @Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe): ...not quite - remember, the estimated weight / power ratio from a previous commenter for the Cruze was conservatively estimated at 20.65, so actually the Cruze has a lbs LESS to carry around per HP than the Fit. The Cruze is the peppier car in this case.

    This whole exercise though is a bit deceptive, though. The gearing and torque curve shape will actually affect driveability more than the weight / power ratio, especially when you're talking such "underpowered" cars. Since I don't have any real information on the Cruze, I would bet that it has a much lower torque peak or flatter curve than the fit, since it's using a turbocharger. Plus, since it is a bit heavier and more powerful and judging by it's highway fuel economy number, more aerodynamic as well, you're likely to see a significantly higher top speed (which is pretty irrelevant under the normal driving conditions these will see) and, more importantly, much better acceleration at freeway speeds and passing ability. #laautoshow
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    We used to get awesome North American premieres like the Bugatti Veyron, Ferrari 599 GTB and the Venturi Fétish.

    This year we get some run of the mill Chevy and a Toyota van. #laautoshow
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    Image of ShantJ ShantJ
    11/17/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: The Fétish is sold here? #laautoshow
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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    11/17/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Its too true. Sad, really, but we actually stand a chance of buying these cars. #laautoshow
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/17/09

    @ShantJ: Is the Fétish even sold anywhere? #laautoshow
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