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    UDMan Drives The Sprinter, Gives It Thumbs-Up

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    Image of Brian Brian
    12/07/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    Two door. Wagon.

    This is J-nik. The Ford is the only right answer.
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    12/06/09

    In reply to UDMan Drives The Sprinter, Gives It Thumbs-Up
    Well well well, I see I've made it onto Jalopnik. Thanks Ms. Martin, but I'm surprised that this is what made it on here, and not the wild Diamond T or the Piss-Off-Pete. (Those are over at the Hooniverse)

    Anyway, I have a slight request. How about doing a posting before year end with a poll. Make that a couple of postings, about the 24 Hours of LeMons. Vote for your favorite outright winner of all the events. Then vote for your favorite IOE winner from all the events. (Yes I do have an interest in this)

    Thanks Ms. Martin.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    12/06/09

    In reply to UDMan Drives The Sprinter, Gives It Thumbs-Up
    I do like it, a lot. But would rather have this, if I am actually buying a van that is. Might not be the best looking van out there (tho I think it looks great) but sure is one of the quickest. 2.5l 6spd diesel w/ ~ 175hp, 118mph top speed. Not bad. Too bad they don't sell it here in the U.S.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/06/09

    In reply to UDMan Drives The Sprinter, Gives It Thumbs-Up
    Nice review UDman! One quibble, you list the cargo capacity as 14.5 feet. My first Econoline, the smallest ever made, had 450 cu. ft. of cargo area. And those feet should be cubes.

    I think that the Sprinter slots in nicely between standard, full size vans and modern step vans. Kind of right size thing. Only a 50s/60s Grumman step van is in the same size category.

    Other European manufacturers makes similar trucks, including Peugot, Citroen and FIAT. These are widely used by all sorts of trades and delivery uses. I have vague hopes that FIAT might bring its van here before too long.
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    Image of Gaseous Clay Gaseous Clay
    12/06/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet:

    ..offers an astounding 14.5 feet of cargo room from the optional bulkhead to the back doors

    Sprinter may not be thick and wide, but it's got length.
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    12/05/09

    In reply to UDMan Drives The Sprinter, Gives It Thumbs-Up
    One question: What's the 'Ring time?
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    Image of Cognitive Dissonance Cognitive Dissonance
    12/05/09

    @VeeArrrSix: [www.youtube.com]

    Close enough?
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    Image of VeeArrrSix VeeArrrSix
    12/05/09

    @Cognitive Dissonance: Sabine... you get a heartclick sir. Well played.
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    Image of das_borgen das_borgen
    12/06/09

    @VeeArrrSix:

    oh yea she's awesome :). Happy she's not in a kitchen
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    12/05/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    Yay for the return of Project Car Hell!!!

    As much as I am a Chevy fan, this time I'm going to have to vote Nash Statesman. Comparatively few were made. Fewer yet survive. Need parts? Better brush up on those library research and machining skills. It also seems to be the worst of the four in terms of material condition.

    So, you will put yourself through all manners of hell trying to restore a total basket case with a barely existent spare parts source, and to top it all off, the only recognition you will get from the word "Nash" is a Nash Bridges reference. No one these days has any idea what the hell a Nash is, and thusly none will truly appreciate the shit you went through.

    That is truly the most hellish of the four, and thusly I feel is the meritorious victor of this edition of Project Car Hell.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    12/05/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    Because I'm feeling a little crazy, I voted for the Nash, which I'd immediately put an Eagle drive train in.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/05/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    Voted for both the Ford and the Nash: the Ford as a restored driver with a hopped-up 351W, the Nash as a heavily-modded machine from Hell, preferably with later AMC power (401? Wedge it in!), or even an Int'l Harvester 392 for added frustration and head-scratching.

    So, wicked cool hauling wagon or hippie-graffitied Pininfarina hellbeast with thirteen-letter-shit-spreader power and eighty-seven yard turning circle? Your choice, amigos.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    12/05/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    Most hellish? Nash.

    Coolest? Ford, preferably with a north-south Ecoboost V6 transplant.
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    Image of Armand Armand
    12/05/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    If you want a project that will be valuable and find a ready market when you're done, get the Chevy.

    If you want a project that will be moderately practical when you're done, get the Ford wagon.

    If you want a project that will be fairly sporty when you're done, get the Poly-powered Dodge.

    If you want a true PCH, get the Nash.
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    Image of DrLemming DrLemming
    12/05/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    Too bad the Nash isn't a 1956, which is easily one of the top-five ugliest cars of the 1950s -- right behind the 1957 Hudson Hornet. AMC designers had to work hard to kill those brands.
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    12/05/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    I inexplicably don't really like the Nash, and although the Chevy is fairly well stripped of its parts, you've already mentioned how easy the parts are to find. The Dodge could be mostly complete, and that's good, since a lot of those bits might be difficult to find.

    The Ford has an undeniable coolness, and although the running gear will be a cakewalk, the wagon specific pieces (of which it's probably missing several) are going to be fun (in the most facetious use of the word) to track down.

    The wagon gets my vote.

    Fortunately I don't need a '50s project car, since I already have a '79 Checker.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/05/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    Gotta be the Nash. Nothing screams PCH like an orphaned nameplate.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    12/05/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    '55 Ford. Since I already got the '54.
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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    12/06/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: I didn't know they had a Tempo in '54.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    12/06/09

    @SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R): They didn't.
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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    12/06/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: You've completely destoyed my image of you. I've always imagined you as the guy in Alaska with something like 3-4 Tempos in the driveway. I imagine one is well used but surprisingly clean, 2 definitely showing their age but running and useable and another one for parts... but that's all just the story I made up. A '54 Ford??? hmmm I have to recalibrate.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    12/06/09

    @SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R): Picture this. A log cabin in the Alaskan wilderness, with a garage the size of the house itself. Parked inside his brother's project VW Beetle and my truck (1990 Ford F-150 with some goodies under the hood). Parked right in front of the house, a not-showroom but still well cared for 1989 Ford Tempo. In paid storage, a 1954 Ford F-300 Big Job waits for funds to have a new engine dropped in.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/05/09

    In reply to Project Car Hell, Party Like It's 1955 (and You're Broke) Edition: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nash?
    Hmmmm. None of these are my faves. As much as I love cars, there are a few 50 models I feel an aversion to--must be some childhood trauma. Chevy--done to death, I'd rather have something weirder, like a 58. Ford, never felt it for those mid 50s years--though this IS a wagon, so bonus points there; and oddly, as much as I love MoPars, that is one model I am not crazy about--maybe because it's too tame for a Mopar. That leaves us in Wisconsin. Seriously that wreck is actually this:?? I am way too old to tackle that. So, 55 Ford wagon it is, I guess.
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